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TSijamz
post Feb 18 2006, 11:35 PM, updated 20y ago

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Just wanna know which one you all prefer...

1. GOVT. Servant..
To be in a stabil economic condition ( without risk of retrenched/wiped out/fired ) and off coz living in 'you know what i mean' attitude..even though the paid considerable quit average/low or slow increament...

OR

2. Private Serv..
earning depends on company ....get flawless bonus( >-4 mths ) ...always jump and jump and jump( or thrown away )... dedicated person,gain wide exp,good attititude...


pls..no offense... notworthy.gif coz im about to change job..i have 50-50 opinion..

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post Feb 18 2006, 11:45 PM

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Government servants got COLA but salary is LOW.

Private servants have higher salary.

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TSijamz
post Feb 18 2006, 11:49 PM

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COLA? wats that?

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post Feb 19 2006, 12:41 AM

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QUOTE(ijamz @ Feb 18 2006, 11:49 PM)
COLA? wats that?
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Cost of Living Allowance.

There're much more differences but what I stated are very general. biggrin.gif

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post Feb 19 2006, 09:56 AM

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Basically government servants gets a lot of benefits even after you retire. You will get a retirement card that will help you a lot in terms of financial later.
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post Feb 19 2006, 10:00 AM

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And cheaper & sometimes free treatment in government hospital too .
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post Feb 19 2006, 10:08 AM

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same what..even some insurance policy do cover untill ecxeed your retirement age..even can do saving summore....EPF oso can act like one for retiree..in terms of other benefits..dunno laa
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post Feb 19 2006, 10:39 AM

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There are more benefits for government servants that most of us not aware of.

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post Feb 19 2006, 11:15 AM

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for 1 thing you get LOAN!!! car & housing..

which when you compare to normal public, they have lower interest due to sliding scale method...

next, for medical, they get free when go to gov hospital where normal public has to pay...

when they go hotel for 'work cum holiday' they get DISCOUNT

and pretty much MORE when you're older..

but as said before, private company offer better salary (but u still have to choose which company, coz some company pay MUCH LOWER than the gov standard)
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post Feb 19 2006, 11:21 AM

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basically, working wif government have a future proof but wages kinda low & working wif private sector offering higher salary, but have to choose the well establish company
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post Feb 19 2006, 12:23 PM

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Not forgetting that the higher salary you get (as with private sector employees), the more you'll have to pay for the income tax. So what is left for you to spend is probably same with civil servants, since everything for you is more expensive.
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post Feb 19 2006, 08:40 PM

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If you work in Goverment: -

1. Stable job....to get fired, you must be a real ****. Nobody(well, almost) gets fired unless you commit a crime.
2. If company does bad....you will not get voluntary retrenchment or decrease pay.
3. "Guaranteed" yearly bonus....though only 1 month, and only based on basic salary.
4. Low basic salary, but lotsa other allowance....ie COLA, housing allowance, special, etc. Tax not applicable to most of these bonuses (significant less tax to pay)
5. Medical benefits.....this benefit outweighs any that any private company can give. FULL MEDICAL benefits for yourself, wife/husband, father and mother, children <18years old). This includes cancer treatment, prosthesis, hemodialysis, all medications, hospital admissions. Believe it or not, a lot of people stay with the goverment just for this.
6. "Relatively" light workload. Less pressure to perform/stay overtime. Some department offers "flexi hours". Working mothers love this.
7. Opportunity for paid postgraduate learning (you get paid while you study). Allowances can be applicable for wife/husband to stay with you overseas during this period.
8. Infamous 5 times/day "minum kopi". Its expected!
9. If you are good, and persevere till top/management posts, you get the usual car/driver/house etc.
10. Top managements get conferred titles...dato/datuk/tan sri etc....while they are a dime too many, they have their perks. There are more of these in Goverment service than anywhere else. HODs are virtually guaranteed this before retirement.
11. Option of selecting pension (vs option for EPF). With pensioners, the FULL Medical benefits persist lifelong for you and wife/husband! (usually, you get more sickness in old)
12. Option for early retirement. Can pension early and go into private after, with full pension benefits later.
13. Annual leave of 30 days.
14. More opportunities for fully paid conference/course trips.
15. Fixed 4% Home Loan interest rate(significantly lower than BLR)
16. The usual Goverment servant rates for hotels etc. Slightly better than "corporate" rates.
17. Contacts. This is priceless. Many retired top management are offered lucrative contracts for this alone!
18. Gifts....officially, only gifts <RM50, but unofficially.......remember, you're powerful. I know of policeman who become policeman for the wrong reasons!
19. Scholarship schemes...for your children
20. Other small perks....eg. free travel insurance, free plane tickets, free uniforms/siut jackets, house moving allowances...etc.



All above are overly simplified! Someone else talk about the cons.


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post Feb 19 2006, 09:07 PM

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Cons about being a government servant:
There is a higher chance of your brains rotting away from disuse. The really smart ones will spend their time doing crossword puzzles and participating in slogan contests professionally in order to get some side income and also to exercise their brains. The rest will just go for teabreak and let their brains atrophy from too much politicking and teh tarik tongue.gif
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post Feb 19 2006, 09:45 PM

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one thing i dont like about working with gov. is that the culture they is to slow..ppl become lazy there..else i think is ok.
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i agree with u. they take too long time to get a thing done. like i joined the gov now. for a month, i dun have my own pc. can u imagine, an IT personnel do thing without pc?? and name badge, i dun have it yet. so everyday i have to go to the guide and ask for visitor pass... it's quite irritating cause the pass is only valid for my office.. it's not accessible to other floor... how can i keep on changing the pass if i wnat to go to different floors????
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magnum u work at MINDEF arr?
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post Feb 20 2006, 09:01 PM

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For me I don't mind working in government sector if can get salary of RM8k. Then after retire can retire with RM4k monthly. Peace of mind.smile.gif
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i agree with u. they take too long time to get a thing done. like i joined the gov now. for a month, i dun have my own pc. can u imagine, an IT personnel do thing without pc?? and name badge, i dun have it yet. so everyday i have to go to the guide and ask for visitor pass... it's quite irritating cause the pass is only valid for my office.. it's not accessible to other floor... how can i keep on changing the pass if i wnat to go to different floors????


A month? I'm not that sure but I personally think that you will get it after working for 2 months. smile.gif

I'm currently working in private sector. Frankly, quite good pay for me.. Imagine a normal guy, supported just with HND from some crap college <- no offense to myself. sweat.gif Plus some additional certificates, low level of experience, but very hardworking. blush.gif Great intention in learning new things as soon as possible. Currently, working as a IT Manager. (Thanks to the almighty God!)

One day, I'll try goment sector! Experience is fun! notworthy.gif
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post Feb 20 2006, 11:54 PM

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and so..mostly people moved from pvt to govt.....is there any possib. for govt servt move to pvt? ... should be culture shock i think...
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My company current Managing Director now is from goverment sector. Quite a lot of changes made after she'd took the throne. smile.gif

Impressive, I must say. blush.gif

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