True, but at the moment, you can see how Scholes carries the team

scholes undoubtedly

top 2 would be lampard & scholes.
but the world greatest ever..easily zidane.

I don't care about honors as that's very subjective. It's the overall play that matters.

Scholes definitely. Gerard a close 2nd behind.

Lampard for me can't dictate much of a game, his goal is more of long range (via deflection sometimes). But in terms of controlling the game he is not as good as Gerard nor Scholes. He always needed a DM to help him out during his prime (Makalele/Essien/Mikel). Hence he can't perform his best during England time as Gerard isn't an actual DM.

Gerard single handedly carried his team. And can sit back nor attack when needed. He is inspiring as a captain and leader of the team.

Scholes does not have the glam of the 2 former. But his passes have always been exquisite. From the way he play upfront during early 2000s and now the CM he is. He does nothing fancy, just occasionally some screamer. But the way he dictate the play is the best I ever see (rivalled by Xavi).

Liverpool fans will vote for Gerrard, MU fans will vote for Scholes, Chelsea fans will vote for Lampard. I think all 3 of them is equally legend for their own club but never shine internationally.

Either Scholes or Gerrard.

this!

The whole English setup(national side) need to be shaken up. Take those Arsenal/ManUtd approach, and things might change. They're very lucky the next generation coming through are pretty good technically. Wilshere, Ox, Cleverley, Welbeck etc.. but they'll mess things up somehow.

And Stuart Pearce as their U21 manager? Please..

kevin nolan ~~~~~~~~~

That was after the 2002 WC. Then SGE found out that Lampard and SGE were better offerings for the central midfield roles.

Why I included Scholes when clearly he did not fit any of the 5 criteria?
Because if I didn't there would be an uproar here in this FL by MU fans.

Nobody is questioning YOUR preferences or choice.

But If you were to quote that YOUR VOTE is based on what Zidane or Xavi et al (from the likes of tabloids, Sunday Mirror for one, journalist interviews) then don't you think its time for you to provide it with a bit of context?

Haha. Tahap kebencian yang melampau. Troller tahap agung ni

United jatuh bangrap main division 3 pun confirm cari point sampai sudah. LOL.

how to vote..all three players are different type of players..hahaha

All of us understand the definition of 'kiasu' vs 'grit and determination.'
Hear me out ;

A quintessential English player, just like a Canadian Ice Hockey Player, has genuine qualities of 'grit and detrmination'. Gerrard & Lampard reflect that.
I admire Gerrard especially for his true English spirit and the manner in which he bootstrapped Liverpool to an amazing CL title.

Likewise Lampard, an unassuming or unpretentious footballer off the field too, was the engine that drove Chelsea to many titles including the CL title this past season.


OTOH I was dismayed at the 'kiasu' behaviour of Scholes especially his performance against Zenit (down 2-0) and in the Wembley derby (down 1-0) with the whole football world watching.

Where is the English spirit of grit & determination to overcome the odds then. Instead of doing a Gerrard he decided to ' quit on his teammates' & walk alone from his team.


That's why I don't rate him as the best ENGLISH player at all.

You already mentioned the awards as the milestone. It's not too hard to understand that. And also, when ppl choose Paul Scholes, you start bringing out all history book and highlighting his bad games. Frank Lampard doesn't have a bad game? You're funny dude.

I am Man Utd Fan. But my votes go to Gerrard or Lampard:)

This post has been edited by outsiders_86: Sep 25 2012, 01:39 PM

i hate them English middfielder, my vote goes to null

Scholes turn his back on England with the excuse that he wants to spend more time with his family. Can't he fly them just like Rooney did?

We can understand about Tevez wanting to spent more time with his family (or read mistress). But isn't Scholes returning home almost every day in Greater Manchester.

Gerrard & Lampard are true loyal England servants.

Friend, if Scholes is with England means more travelling which means less time at home. You understand?

This post has been edited by giantkilling: Sep 25 2012, 02:10 PM

So, are we talking about loyal servant or best midfielder now?
Guess you don't understand what does summer means for angmoh...

This post has been edited by O-haiyo: Sep 25 2012, 02:15 PM

ok lets see...

gerrard - 1 ucl title
lampard - 1ucl title
scholes - 2ucl title

so my choice is very obvious..