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post Sep 25 2012, 01:52 AM, updated 13y ago

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Here's your opportunity to vote hopefully regardless of your club allegiance.

Bearing in mind the individual honours or awards garnered or won are based on

1. Ballon D'Or judges
2. Football Writers Association (FWA Footballer of the Year title)
3. Professional Footballers Association ( PFA Players' Player of the Year Title)
4. Fans' Player of the Year Title
5. Football Association (FA England Player of the Year Title)

Lets list them and their titles

1. Steven Gerrard

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2. Frank Lampard

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3. Scott Parker

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4. Paul Scholes

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5. David Beckham

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6. Owen Hargreaves

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Remember this is a poll only!
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post Sep 25 2012, 02:00 AM

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it always scholes
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post Sep 25 2012, 02:08 AM

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QUOTE(zomgser @ Sep 25 2012, 02:00 AM)
it always scholes
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Why?

Did Scholes fit any of the following criteria

1. Ballon D'Or judges
2. Football Writers Association (FWA Footballer of the Year title)
3. Professional Footballers Association ( PFA Players' Player of the Year Title)
4. Fans' Player of the Year Title
5. Football Association (FA England Player of the Year Title)

Remember the Football Writers, Fellow Footballers (his peers), Fans or Football cognoscenti voted judiciouly or with diligence.

Did Scholes win any of the above? As a voting member here why did you vote him?
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post Sep 25 2012, 02:10 AM

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post Sep 25 2012, 02:56 AM

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its gerrard clearly........

the like of scholes, lamps, giggs and becks play in a very good team. that win titles after title.

but gerrard, not the case.

single handedly carried liverpool through tough situation.

when 99% of the things are goin against us. he's the 1% of white light hat the supporters can look to.
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post Sep 25 2012, 03:22 AM

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it's between Gerrard and Scholes.

As someone mentioned, Gerrard had to carry the team most of the time and he had the uncanny ability to win games on his own. A true game winner.

As for Scholes, he is the as professional as anyone can get. On the pitch he's everywhere, off the pitch you can't find him lol. Great respect for him even though I don't really like clubs that control referees.
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post Sep 25 2012, 03:24 AM

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Scholes, Gerrard, Lampard.

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post Sep 25 2012, 08:02 AM

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QUOTE(lfcreds91 @ Sep 25 2012, 02:56 AM)
its gerrard clearly........

the like of scholes, lamps, giggs and becks play in a very good team. that win titles after title.

but gerrard, not the case.

single handedly carried liverpool through tough situation.

when 99% of the things are goin against us. he's the 1% of white light hat the supporters can look to.
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Harpo is my choice. He is MU's Yaya. One would never know how good he would be if he had been able to stay off from being treated on MU medical treatment table.

He is the sole reason why MU beat Chelsea for the CL title.
Without him MU was given a masterclass spanking by Barcelona both times!


Prior to Chelsea CL success this past season, I would rate Gerrard ahead of Lampard.
Gerrard and Lampard are WC players and have been recognized by their peers (fellow Professional footballers) and football cognoscenti (including Professional Football writers) and genuine football fans (not just MU fans or plastic fans).

SGE gave Scholes opportunity to shine at the 2002 WC. Together with Beckham they bungled it and was responsible for England's exit. Most of us were there and we saw how poor England was especially Scholes who looked like a journeyman without MU's greats.

Gerrard and Lampard are the quintessential English players with grit, determination, athletic ability, skills and football nous. As midfielders, both of them are prolific goal scorers and can score when the rest of the team needs a spark plug to fire them up.

Scholes is not renowned for his athletic ability, pace or dribbling skills or defending. Against lowly opponents Scholes look good with his passes. His passes gets picked off easily by WC opponents. Do you remember why he left his stud prints on Zabaleta?

Anyways Gerrard and Lampard rightfully displaced Scholes (in his prime & before his excuses- vision problem etc..) as England's central mifielder.

Right now Lampard is.

That's why officially he is the 'Best English Midfielder of the decade'

Of course members get to voice their votes here. biggrin.gif

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post Sep 25 2012, 09:05 AM

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Can see many MANU fans here...

but only one player with this title :

Premier League : Player of the Decade, (2000–2009) according to official statistics[18]

So my vote goes to him. rclxms.gif
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post Sep 25 2012, 09:51 AM

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My vote goes to him
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post Sep 25 2012, 10:45 AM

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btw it's alarming how academies in england fail to address the need of a modern type of midfielder that can dictate the flow of the game and offers creativity in the middle of the park.the likes of Xabi Alonso,Modric,etc

it's all runners(#8),the type of new "lampards" and "gerrards",while there's lack of creator(#10) or destroyer(#4) that is produced.Livermore, McEacheran, Shelvey, Henderson, etc. sure there's rodwell and wilshere,but only these two?

by comparison,Japan( jepun lagi....) has polished many footballer that can adapt to todays's game.there's Kagawa Shinji,for one, but there's also the likes of kiyotake,Takagi,Usami, higashi,etc. even now the likes of Honda and Hasebe(still in mid 20s) could still played at top level for the next 3,4 years

the FA need to do something about it. hire a german/dutch to fill the role as director of technical committe,perhaps?
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Scholes, Gerrard and Lampard are equally good actually, different playing style but backbone for their team for more than 10 years
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Scott Parker and Owen Hagreaves doesn't deserves to be on this poll
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post Sep 25 2012, 11:43 AM

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QUOTE(VoiVod @ Sep 25 2012, 09:51 AM)
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My vote goes to him
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Let me try to dispel your illusion.
First of all did Scholes fit into any of the 5 criteria I listed. Correct me if I'm wrong he didn't.

Lamps OTOH did, that's why he is the 'Best English Midfielder of the Decade' and of this generation.
The Greatest Manager (Mourinho) , in the world currently, hailed Lamps as 'the best player in the world'
Fergie (the Greatest MU Manager of all time @ OT ) affirms that Lamp 'is an EXCEPTIONAL player – a huge asset to Chelsea, You pay attention to players who can get goals from midfield and he's been averaging 20 a season.You don't see him getting into stupid tackles..'

Did Mourihno or Fergie ever states that Scholes was?


Let's get to the nub of the matter. Why did Pep Guardiola singled out ' Manchester United's Paul Scholes as the best midfielder of his generation'? Xavi & Iniesta echoed that.
However lest you forget this was to the run up of the CL final. As a football cognoscenti (not me only) suggested that Barca was drool.gif at the prospect and wants Scholes to marshal MU's midfield. Pep knew that Scholes is no Roy Keane.
This is Spanish Art of Gamesmanship. So please don't quote that to buttress your claim especiallt that of Fab et al.

Likewise don't believe French satire (the wits of Vieira, Henry and Zidane)

Closer to home Mancini practice a bit of Italian 'Charm'. To wit ' MU is the favourite to win the title' on the eve of the last Derby @ Etihad. Where true to form City gave MU a masterclass spanking. Scholes & Co were like human traffic cones. Not a single assist or goal scoring opportunity! The score flatters MU poor and pathetic performance.


You see Fergie may be the Master of the Dark Arts but others can practice white magic FYI. wink.gif

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QUOTE(CityBluePrint @ Sep 25 2012, 11:43 AM)
Let me try to dispel your illusion.
First of all did Scholes fit into any of the 5 criteria I listed. Correct me if I'm wrong he didn't.

Lamps OTOH did, that's why he is the 'Best English Midfielder of the Decade' and of this generation.
The Greatest Manager (Mourinho) , in the world currently, hailed Lamps as 'the best player in the world'
Fergie (the Greatest  MU Manager of all time @ OT ) affirms that Lamp 'is an EXCEPTIONAL player – a huge asset to Chelsea, You pay attention to players who can get goals from midfield and he's been averaging 20 a season.You don't see him getting into stupid tackles..'

Did Mourihno or Fergie ever states that Scholes was?
Let's get to the nub of the matter. Why did Pep Guardiola singled out ' Manchester United's Paul Scholes as the best midfielder of his generation'? Xavi & Iniesta echoed that.
However lest you forget this was to the run up of  the CL final. As a football cognoscenti (not me only) suggested that Barca was drool.gif  at the prospect and wants  Scholes to marshal  MU's midfield. Pep knew that Scholes is no Roy Keane.
This is  Spanish Art of Gamesmanship. So please don't quote that to buttress your claim especiallt that of Fab et al.

Likewise don't believe French satire (the wits of Vieira, Henry and Zidane)

Closer to home Mancini practice a bit of Italian 'Charm'. To wit ' MU is the favourite to win the title' on the eve of the last Derby @ Etihad. Where true to form City gave MU a masterclass spanking. Scholes & Co were like human traffic cones. Not a single assist or goal scoring opportunity! The score flatters MU poor and pathetic performance.
You see Fergie may be the Master of the Dark Arts but others can practice white magic FYI.  wink.gif
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Why the fark you put Scholes name as one of the choices?
"It's only a poll" as you put it.
It is my vote, my choice, end of story.



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post Sep 25 2012, 11:55 AM

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QUOTE(CityBluePrint @ Sep 25 2012, 11:43 AM)
Let me try to dispel your illusion.
First of all did Scholes fit into any of the 5 criteria I listed. Correct me if I'm wrong he didn't.

Lamps OTOH did, that's why he is the 'Best English Midfielder of the Decade' and of this generation.
The Greatest Manager (Mourinho) , in the world currently, hailed Lamps as 'the best player in the world'
Fergie (the Greatest  MU Manager of all time @ OT ) affirms that Lamp 'is an EXCEPTIONAL player – a huge asset to Chelsea, You pay attention to players who can get goals from midfield and he's been averaging 20 a season.You don't see him getting into stupid tackles..'

Did Mourihno or Fergie ever states that Scholes was?
Let's get to the nub of the matter. Why did Pep Guardiola singled out ' Manchester United's Paul Scholes as the best midfielder of his generation'? Xavi & Iniesta echoed that.
However lest you forget this was to the run up of  the CL final. As a football cognoscenti (not me only) suggested that Barca was drool.gif  at the prospect and wants  Scholes to marshal  MU's midfield. Pep knew that Scholes is no Roy Keane.
This is  Spanish Art of Gamesmanship. So please don't quote that to buttress your claim especiallt that of Fab et al.

Likewise don't believe French satire (the wits of Vieira, Henry and Zidane)

Closer to home Mancini practice a bit of Italian 'Charm'. To wit ' MU is the favourite to win the title' on the eve of the last Derby @ Etihad. Where true to form City gave MU a masterclass spanking. Scholes & Co were like human traffic cones. Not a single assist or goal scoring opportunity! The score flatters MU poor and pathetic performance.
You see Fergie may be the Master of the Dark Arts but others can practice white magic FYI.  wink.gif
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i don't get you... you are trying to create a poll yet enforce others onto your choice of best midfielder by having those "5 criterias"... what is the point then?

being the best midfielder does not mean you are a top scoring midfielder or highest assist midfielder... there are also other stuffs that constitute to being a great midfielder... heck, how can you even assist all the time when you are dictating the run of play from your own half? duh!

also lampard may have been only doing it for the last 12 years of so, but scholes have been doing that for the last 20 years! changing his style of play from getting to age yet to prove still effective is stuff of legends! it remains to be seen what can lampard do when he reaches 35 or heck 38?

i appreciate that your love for lamps but please don't belittle others by calling their loved as illusion!
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what a misleading title.... THIS GENERATION MIDFIELDER.... Most of them will likely retire in the next few years....

i thought it was gonna be Youth Midfielder from England.... zzzzz
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QUOTE(CityBluePrint @ Sep 25 2012, 08:02 AM)
Harpo is my choice. He is MU's Yaya. One would never know how good he would be  if he had been able to stay off from being treated on MU medical treatment table.

He is the sole reason why MU beat Chelsea for the CL title.
Without him MU was given a masterclass spanking by Barcelona both times!
Prior to Chelsea CL success this past season, I would rate Gerrard ahead of Lampard.
Gerrard and Lampard are WC players and have been recognized by their peers (fellow Professional footballers) and football cognoscenti (including Professional Football writers) and genuine football fans (not just MU fans or plastic fans).

SGE gave Scholes opportunity to shine at the 2002 WC. Together with Beckham they bungled it and was responsible for England's exit. Most of us were there and we saw how poor England was especially Scholes who looked like a journeyman without MU's greats.

Gerrard and Lampard are the quintessential English players with grit, determination, athletic ability, skills and football nous. As midfielders, both of them are prolific goal scorers and  can score when the rest of the team needs a spark plug to fire them up.

Scholes  is not renowned for his athletic ability, pace or dribbling skills or defending. Against  lowly opponents Scholes look good with his passes. His passes gets picked off easily by WC opponents. Do you remember why he left his stud prints on Zabaleta?

Anyways Gerrard and Lampard  rightfully displaced Scholes (in his prime & before his excuses- vision problem etc..)  as England's central mifielder.

Right now Lampard is.

That's why officially he is the 'Best English Midfielder of the decade'

Of course members get to voice their votes here.  biggrin.gif
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You mean when SGE played him on the left? laugh.gif
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haha TS want us to vote his/her choice.
btw Scott Parker get my vote, true traditional english midfielder.
He should wear the england armband haha

hard to choose because different type of midfielders listed there.
if the best midfielder = whose got more awardS, then this thread should be close by now.
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