Paul Scholes without doubt....

simply the best..

Messi thx.. Xavi.. good words...etc.. stays the fact there can only be one..
Sneijder help Inter to CL is to show you there also can only be one...

So how hard issit for you to understand that those who don't get award get good words for pat on the back?
I believe you understand but it is not easy to swallow.. so i praise you for you effort.
That is the cold hard truth.

Fact remains 90% of awards which is prestige is vote by ppl who are important.

World player of the year, european player of the year - managers
and since they are in england those midfield players.. players are the voters.. so they are not winning those awards.. clearly there can only be one.
Now since when I said they are not good. No never.. they are god like in my minds.. regardless scholes, beckham, gerrard or lampard.
But still there can only be one.

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Added on September 27, 2012, 8:01 pmSo two different type of players ? but gerrard is a box to box.. scholes is not.. lampard is attacking midfielder. so cannot be compared. scott parker sit behind and break up play.. so what are you comparing about?

and don't you see the word The Best English Midfielder.. not central ?






This post has been edited by ponomariov: Sep 27 2012, 08:01 PM

you don't really have to reply to this thread
TS (CBP) just want to kutuk scholes, but i don't really read his 3-paragraph post anyway
not so long ago, he opened a thread in /k/ just to kutuk manutd players, especially rooney
pity him

Instead of praising and supporting your club, one can do as much work as to opening a thread trying to put down another club and try to mask it with a stewpit pole and claim he dont hate the team at all.

And funny how some peeps would see that ts Is putting aside football rivalry and being fair and a nice chap in setting something that does not favour his team at all. Garath barrynya mana

barton - parker - barry ... i like these guys ... can't get a more hardworking midfield ...

carrick - hargreaves - cleverly/wilshere ... passers ... england don't rate them ... spain can't get enough of them ...

scholes - lampard ... tip of diamond midfielders ... hollywood pass / longshot types ... likeable because they're flashy ...


TIL, busquet is one of the best midfielders of all time

edit: leon britton is a better midfielder than xavi last season ...

This post has been edited by spursfan: Sep 27 2012, 10:16 PM

Once a while we get someone who 'cogitates, correlates & then only communicate'. That's the intent of this thread.
You are one of them.

HaHa. Individual title!
Who're you kidding?
Roy Keane piggybacked or carried Scholes in UEFA/CL. That's why Keane won all the individual awards (PFA FWA titles). Roy Keane makes an ordinary Scholes looks good in runup to first CL title
Scholes was shocking without Keane he looks ordinary just like everyone pointed out during the World Cup. You probably too young too remember or just a newbie then.
Hargreaves was the other top Player in the other CL title. Owen staightjacketed Drogba and was the reason MU got to PK which was decided by Terry's PK.
Now Gerrard 'carried' Liverpool's team for the CL title
That's what outstanding or top individual player supposed to do.

Gerrard is the one!

Go tell them AH NE NE.
Rather than be your subtle self

Now that Becks & Scholes have retired.
Becks will be remembered as England's best football ambassador & wishing him the best as he continues on in the role.

Are they the best English Midfielder of this generation?

The Proof is in the individual titles awarded to them by their PEERS
i.e. FWA, PFA or UEFA Best Midfielder or Individual Footballer awards.

Its a FACT Scholes have not garnered any of them.

Becks on the other hand has. Beckham in his MU days, among the golden generation, was MU's best English midfielder.

Qualitatively we have shown that SG & Lamps with their Individual Awards or Honours (PFA, FWA or UEFA etc) are the Best Midfielder of this generation.

Lets look at their QUANTS i.e.

Team Appearances Goals Ratio

Frank Lampard
@ Club
804 243 0.302
403 141 0.350 @ Chelsea
for England
95 28 0.295

Steven Gerrard
@ Club
629 159 0.253
for England
102 19 0.186

Conclusion: Lamps has the better stats.

Not to exclude Paul Scholes, let's see
@club

718 155 0.216
for England
66 14 0.212



Conclusion: Lamps in terms of (club or international) performances can be quantified as 40% (0.302/0.216 or 0.295/0.212) better that Scholes.



Summary: Qualitatively & Quantitatively, Lamps is the Best English Midfielder for the last 20 years.

Scholes at his prime played at a more advanced role in the midfield. That's where he scored most of his goals.

PLease feel free to quote above - Uncle CBY


P.S. Is John O'Shea the Best Defender given that he has won PL, CL team titles?

This post has been edited by CityBluePrint: May 24 2013, 05:53 PM

You know you are desperate when you reply to 2012's thread back..

lol

Every time a Footballer UNRETIRES & come back to claim a team medal UNDESERVEDLY
or even be a 'POSEUR' (wannabe the best English Midfielder) his RECORD should be updated.

In the case of Scholes (acclaimed by his acolytes & legion of red devils as the best MU midfielder) his record & case history should be scrutinized again.
The 'statute of limitations' is applicable here. No?


INDIVIDUAL HONOURS, TITLES & AWARDS, are given to footballers by their PEERS & by recognized Football Associations & Authorities.

To DENIGRATE the achievements of LAMPS (the Best ENGLISH Midfielder for the past 20 years)



is a travesty of football decency and affront to English Football & a mockery to football cognoscenti here & elsewhere.

To leave the false claim (by MUppets, MUddled-headed Fans, sycophants & media whores) UNCHALLENGED is a DISGRACE.

CBP, I'm sorry if ur family or maybe yourself was raped by a United fans, my sympathy then for you.

Btw, keep on trying. It's fun to have you around.

Cheers.

Btw if Busquets is an English I'm keen to know how would you do qualitative and quantitative analysis comparing him with SG and Lampard or whether you'll still put Lampard ahead for this best English midfielder nonsense.

This post has been edited by alowie: May 25 2013, 06:05 PM

its even more fun to have u partner with CBP now.

lolwuttt

I believe Luke Chadwick is good enough on that list.

/troll

Beckham, Best MU English Midfielder, looks like he is retired for good from competitive football.

Albeit he is overhyped, NEVER OVERRATED IMO, he is a good LOYAL England servant

Wishing him the best as he continues to be a football ambassador.