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TSumapathy
post Sep 25 2012, 06:49 PM

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QUOTE(gark @ Sep 25 2012, 05:47 PM)
You are absolutely correct. Nowdays good insurance agents are very rare.... wink.gif
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Today i get good info.....i will wait for PRS and invest there......
gark
post Sep 25 2012, 07:10 PM

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QUOTE(umapathy @ Sep 25 2012, 06:49 PM)
Today i get good info.....i will wait for PRS and invest there......
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Lol... even after showing examples why insurance and investment cannot be mixed, you still want to invest in 'insurance' albeit another one. Even after a few insurance agent also tell you the difference between of protection vs investment, also not take notice meh?

Hard to believe... cannot help liao rclxub.gif

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HighRoller84
post Sep 26 2012, 12:31 AM

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QUOTE(gark @ Sep 25 2012, 07:10 PM)
Lol... even after showing examples why insurance and investment cannot be mixed, you still want to invest in 'insurance' albeit another one. Even after a few insurance agent also tell you the difference between of protection vs investment, also not take notice meh?

Hard to believe... cannot help liao  rclxub.gif
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PRS can be pure unit trust, not necessarily insurance annuities.
gark
post Sep 26 2012, 10:28 AM

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QUOTE(HighRoller84 @ Sep 26 2012, 12:31 AM)
PRS can be pure unit trust, not necessarily insurance annuities.
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There are practically loads of other UT which perform better than prudential funds. Also by buying through agent, there load fees are high. This put you at a disadvantage already even before you start. rolleyes.gif

Can't think why invest through insurance the only logical choice meh? doh.gif
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post Sep 26 2012, 10:52 AM

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Hi all

just to add.

I have a good friend that is doing very well. How well? Let's just say he has his own construction co, bungalow, land here & there, asset
overseas etc etc. Smart biz man.

And so, he ask my opinion about endowment plan. I told him there are better investment out there. And he says he wants it for his children.
Pay limited years & get returns.

There are people who wants such plans. Many are better investors than a lot of fin planners out there but just want something lower risk despite low returns. It is not all about high returns all the time. Nothing against common advice.

Different strokes for different folks.


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post Sep 26 2012, 10:55 AM

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QUOTE(trinity3 @ Sep 26 2012, 10:52 AM)

There are people who wants such plans. Many are better investors than a lot of fin planners out there but just want something lower risk despite low returns. It is not all about high returns all the time. Nothing against common advice.
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Yes, how about having NO risk and slightly higher returns. Most Savings plan underperform Fixed Deposit, and since FD is guaranteed by PIDM, so this is a no brainer. rolleyes.gif
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post Sep 26 2012, 11:36 AM

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QUOTE(trinity3 @ Sep 26 2012, 10:52 AM)
Hi all

just to add.

I have a good friend that is doing very well. How well? Let's just say he has his own construction co, bungalow, land here & there, asset
overseas etc etc. Smart biz man.

And so, he ask my opinion about endowment plan. I told him there are better investment out there. And he says he wants it for his children.
Pay limited years & get returns.

There are people who wants such plans. Many are better investors than a lot of fin planners out there but just want something lower risk despite low returns. It is not all about high returns all the time. Nothing against common advice.

Different strokes for different folks.
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Lembu, you are the expert in insurance, he's the expert in his business.
Still dare say different strokes for different people?

Gark, beginning to like you wink.gif

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gark
post Sep 26 2012, 12:53 PM

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QUOTE(HighRoller84 @ Sep 26 2012, 11:36 AM)
Lembu, you are the expert in insurance, he's the expert in his business.
Still dare say different strokes for different people?

Gark, beginning to like you  wink.gif
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Although I am agreeable to your view, I think you are being unnecessary harsh in your words. This is a discussion forum, so some civility is required. wink.gif
TSumapathy
post Sep 28 2012, 01:35 AM

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Hai Bro,

What i meant is Private Retirement Scheme not insirance plan.....So i will wait for this.


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post Sep 28 2012, 09:38 AM

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QUOTE(umapathy @ Sep 28 2012, 01:35 AM)
Hai Bro,

What i meant is Private Retirement Scheme not insirance plan.....So i will wait for this.
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Same thing no difference, this is commonly known as endowment plan, no difference in the concept, at most you get slightly below FD... yawn.gif

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post Sep 28 2012, 11:20 AM

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It's still a viable plan for those who doesn't have the habit of saving for their retirement / other plans.

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post Sep 28 2012, 02:10 PM

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QUOTE(fghvbn @ Sep 28 2012, 11:20 AM)
It's still a viable plan for those who doesn't have the habit of saving for their retirement / other plans.

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Well that another point to see it, for those who cannot save money and need to 'forced' to do so. But in the in it is themselves who will lose out. tongue.gif
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post May 2 2013, 12:13 AM

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can anyone enlighten me on the disadvantages of the PruCash Double Reward savings scheme ? http://www2.prudential.com.my/corp/prudent...ublereward.html

it may seem too good to be true ? thanks in advance for the time and effort taken

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post May 2 2013, 11:10 PM

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QUOTE(gark @ Sep 26 2012, 10:28 AM)
There are practically loads of other UT which perform better than prudential funds. Also by buying through agent, there load fees are high. This put you at a disadvantage already even before you start.  rolleyes.gif

Can't think why invest through insurance  the only logical choice meh?  doh.gif
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Gark,

Just "sepak dia".
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post Feb 5 2014, 03:47 PM

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QUOTE(ryjc @ May 2 2013, 12:13 AM)
can anyone enlighten me on the disadvantages of the PruCash Double Reward savings scheme ? http://www2.prudential.com.my/corp/prudent...ublereward.html

it may seem too good to be true ? thanks in advance for the time and effort taken
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im still waiting any forumer can advise @ gimme some info for this Q.. notworthy.gif notworthy.gif
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post Feb 6 2014, 09:16 AM

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QUOTE(Johore @ Feb 5 2014, 03:47 PM)
im still waiting any forumer can advise @ gimme some info for this Q..  notworthy.gif  notworthy.gif
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From the example given for PRUcash double reward in the website, if one were to contribute RM20180 annually for 10 years, by the end of the 20th year, they'll get RM222181.

However, do note that this amount is viable only if Prudential's gross investment return p.a is 7%. You'll have to ask the agents what is gross investment return for this item in the past years to know if this is a good indicator.

Including the annual guaranteed payout and the final payout, it should add up to RM324181.
If you were to place RM20180 annually in FD for 10 years and let the interest compound for another 10 years, by the end of the 20th year, you would get RM307948 (assuming FD interest of 3.15%), which is just RM16232 lower than what Prudential gives.

And if you read the fine print, the RM222181 final payout is inclusive of bonus payouts which are not guaranteed.

So, the question is can Prudential have an average annual return of 7% for 20 years?
If you invest on your own and would manage to get an average return of 4% annually, you would have get more returns than that given by Prudential in their illustrated example.

As a savings plan, I would say you would be better off if you invest by yourself.
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post Apr 8 2015, 06:07 PM

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goshh...i boought this via friend few years back...he said guaranteed can get double...

but now i check back only realise this...

from the prudential website: "The diagram above summarises the basic structure of the PRUcash double reward for a male non-smoker, age 35,..."

i bought this about 21 yrs old...now 4th yrs...and now i become a smoker...so how?wat means for this? please help!! sad.gif((
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post Apr 8 2015, 09:04 PM

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QUOTE(Backham23 @ Apr 8 2015, 06:07 PM)
goshh...i boought this via friend few years back...he said guaranteed can get double...

but now i check back only realise this...

from the prudential website: "The diagram above summarises the basic structure of the PRUcash double reward for a male non-smoker, age 35,..."

i bought this about 21 yrs old...now 4th yrs...and now i become a smoker...so how?wat means for this? please help!! sad.gif((
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Just declare your smoker status through your agent.
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post Apr 8 2015, 09:11 PM

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QUOTE(umapathy @ Sep 28 2012, 01:35 AM)
Hai Bro,

What i meant is Private Retirement Scheme not insirance plan.....So i will wait for this.
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PRS is already in the market.
If you're in your 20s, you will also qualify for RM500 gov incentive into your PRS account!

Minimum contribution is RM1k the first year, plus RM10 account opening fee.

PRS is basically a privately managed EPF. It is administered by the PPA and governed bt the SC.
Also you can't withdraw without a penalty until age 55.

I am an agent with APAM (AIA Pension and Asset Management). If you're interested to start a PRS account, why not send me a private message?


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post Apr 8 2015, 10:15 PM

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QUOTE(Backham23 @ Apr 8 2015, 06:07 PM)
goshh...i boought this via friend few years back...he said guaranteed can get double...

but now i check back only realise this...

from the prudential website: "The diagram above summarises the basic structure of the PRUcash double reward for a male non-smoker, age 35,..."

i bought this about 21 yrs old...now 4th yrs...and now i become a smoker...so how?wat means for this? please help!! sad.gif((
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Under any circumstances, insurance company only wants to know your smoker status upon application. Doesnt matter if you became a smoker after you bought the policy... This is for any life insurance policy.

Those diagram is only for illustration... Dont need to be paranoid about smoker status. sweat.gif

 

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