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gark
post Sep 25 2012, 10:28 AM

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QUOTE(umapathy @ Sep 25 2012, 07:32 AM)
Even in the policy it states non guaranteed for the returns...same goes to unit trust.
Only thing insurance charges eat up our units in insurance.
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From your previous post, I cans see that you are way over insured (medical, life, annuity, etc etc), paying so much premium until you are in financial trouble. Insurance is for protection and it is never meant for Investment. If you want to invest, only invest with money you can afford to lose. You should never have insurance premium > 10% of your earnings, otherwise you are just enriching the insurance industry with things that might or might not happen.

Using Insurance as a investment fails Investing 101. laugh.gif


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QUOTE(umapathy @ Sep 25 2012, 09:39 AM)
If i took up an ILP or endowment plane, at maturity can I get the money that i paid or higher?

Or will i be gaining loss?

What would it be?
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Learn to calculate before you invest.. lar...don't be fooled by insurance agents...read the brochure

Taking example PRU Double Cash Reward...basic policy

Each Year premium is RM 20,180 x 10 years = 201,800
Yearly Reward = 3000 x 10 + 6000 x 10 = 90,000
Maturity Benefit (Taking PRU 7% gain which is on high expectations) = 222,181

Based on 20 years investment, you invest 201,800 to get 312,181 in 20 years.. your annual CAGR is ... drumroll please... 2.21% per year.

Even if you factor in tax savings of Rm 3K/year (if got).. your CAGR barely rise to 3.11%... rolleyes.gif

Feel satisfied with your 'earning'? Still want you buy? Please go ahead then.... laugh.gif

This post has been edited by gark: Sep 25 2012, 10:52 AM
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post Sep 25 2012, 05:47 PM

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QUOTE(wwl86 @ Sep 25 2012, 05:01 PM)
Good analysis.
As i always emphasize, insurance is mainly / strictly / specially / particularly for Wealth Protection.. Wealth Protection.. Wealth Protection to each customers or prospects. So, fact finding is very important to identify what is the main financial objective of our customers or non-customers (most of the time my friends would ask since i am in the industry). If their objective is to invest, please lah dont "con" them into purchasing with all kind of reasons like saying this is a savings plan with free insurance coverage. I have also experienced with bank bancassurance staff telling me the same thing.
Financial planning / insurance planning is a long term commitment. Not to play a fool into wasting people's trust and hard-earn money into buying something that don't fit the needs.
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You are absolutely correct. Nowdays good insurance agents are very rare.... wink.gif
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post Sep 25 2012, 07:10 PM

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QUOTE(umapathy @ Sep 25 2012, 06:49 PM)
Today i get good info.....i will wait for PRS and invest there......
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Lol... even after showing examples why insurance and investment cannot be mixed, you still want to invest in 'insurance' albeit another one. Even after a few insurance agent also tell you the difference between of protection vs investment, also not take notice meh?

Hard to believe... cannot help liao rclxub.gif

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post Sep 26 2012, 10:28 AM

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QUOTE(HighRoller84 @ Sep 26 2012, 12:31 AM)
PRS can be pure unit trust, not necessarily insurance annuities.
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There are practically loads of other UT which perform better than prudential funds. Also by buying through agent, there load fees are high. This put you at a disadvantage already even before you start. rolleyes.gif

Can't think why invest through insurance the only logical choice meh? doh.gif
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post Sep 26 2012, 10:55 AM

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QUOTE(trinity3 @ Sep 26 2012, 10:52 AM)

There are people who wants such plans. Many are better investors than a lot of fin planners out there but just want something lower risk despite low returns. It is not all about high returns all the time. Nothing against common advice.
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Yes, how about having NO risk and slightly higher returns. Most Savings plan underperform Fixed Deposit, and since FD is guaranteed by PIDM, so this is a no brainer. rolleyes.gif
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post Sep 26 2012, 12:53 PM

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QUOTE(HighRoller84 @ Sep 26 2012, 11:36 AM)
Lembu, you are the expert in insurance, he's the expert in his business.
Still dare say different strokes for different people?

Gark, beginning to like you  wink.gif
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Although I am agreeable to your view, I think you are being unnecessary harsh in your words. This is a discussion forum, so some civility is required. wink.gif
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post Sep 28 2012, 09:38 AM

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QUOTE(umapathy @ Sep 28 2012, 01:35 AM)
Hai Bro,

What i meant is Private Retirement Scheme not insirance plan.....So i will wait for this.
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Same thing no difference, this is commonly known as endowment plan, no difference in the concept, at most you get slightly below FD... yawn.gif

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post Sep 28 2012, 02:10 PM

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QUOTE(fghvbn @ Sep 28 2012, 11:20 AM)
It's still a viable plan for those who doesn't have the habit of saving for their retirement / other plans.

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Well that another point to see it, for those who cannot save money and need to 'forced' to do so. But in the in it is themselves who will lose out. tongue.gif

 

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