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alexlow
post Dec 12 2009, 06:52 PM

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QUOTE(weeloong81 @ Dec 12 2009, 09:36 AM)
Changed water yesterday, looking good...


Added on December 12, 2009, 10:09 amammonia in about 0.25ppm.. still need to cycle by tank...
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add more bacteria, not enough
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post Dec 13 2009, 01:06 PM

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QUOTE(weeloong81 @ Dec 13 2009, 02:08 AM)
ok... will add on... which mena i need to add on more bacteria then the ammonia will drop?
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not enough that's why ammonia not convert to nitrite/nitrate
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post Dec 14 2009, 01:14 AM

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QUOTE(weeloong81 @ Dec 14 2009, 12:26 AM)
noted... thanks bro...
my tempurature damn high now. 29c le... thinking to get nd hand chiller.... any comment on hailea 150A? suit for 2 feet tank?
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noneed think, go get it
29c, coral you can't keep, either no growth or die slowly
hailea 150a, rm850
u need a small powerhead pump with low flow.

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post Dec 14 2009, 10:22 PM

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QUOTE(weeloong81 @ Dec 14 2009, 10:28 AM)
now my water tank at 30c... haiz.... keep going up... sien...
bro, where the place u go normally? can let me know?
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put a fan blow direct the surface, if your room temp is 30c, it will bring your tank temp down 2c
i go many place but stay in pg, if you are at kl than can go around puchong , several marine LFS over there.


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post Dec 14 2009, 11:51 PM

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QUOTE(weeloong81 @ Dec 14 2009, 11:24 PM)
i jus get a quote, price at RM1070nett for heilea 150.... a bit exp le... in PG can get at RM850?
mayb currently fix a fan 1st... still looking around the chiller...

Between my tank is ready, my ammonia rating at 0 pph...
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ya, been long time ago i asked but price shouldn't differ too much, each batch stocks come price different.
ammonia zero is great, if add live stock must slowly, each time u add, bioload goes up and bacteria need to multiple and adjust accordingly.

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post Dec 16 2009, 11:15 AM

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actually i like to put hardy fish when cycling tank, it will speed up the process, currently cycling a tank, fish only tank, 1st day already dump in damsel.

also i dun use any kick start dosing, just take some live rock and old water from existing tank and put in when i do water change. eventually the bacteria will multiple.


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post Dec 17 2009, 12:54 AM

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QUOTE(silverbolt143 @ Dec 16 2009, 04:00 PM)
I see, thanks for enlighten me... thumbup.gif
i thought FISH ONLY and FOWLR is two different things  laugh.gif

How long can marine fish live without filter/air pump/skimmer???
Any of you install somekind of back-up battery or power generator to support your marine tank equipment in case of blackout???
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rclxm9.gif vary, depends type of fish, tank setup, size of tank, condition of water, most of all how your fish already used to adapt.
4-8hours, some people will use battery with manual or auto cut over.
i just use a dc pump, when detected blackout, battery pump will auto start to provide oksigen


Added on December 17, 2009, 1:04 am
QUOTE(stevenbpeng @ Dec 16 2009, 06:29 PM)
Hi,

I am looking for a 2nd hand 6 feet tank and chiller, but must be reasonable price. I already set up my 4 ft tank last month... smile.gif And another 2 ft tank this month... Have about 13 fishes and also coral reefs and live rocks...

But i found out that the live stocks that available in market is very expensive. Anyone can suggest to me where I can get better deals on all the saltwater stuffs and live stock?

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4ft, 2ft and now 6ft, this is interesting, where are you from?
6ft u need to use aircon chiller already, few mths ago my fr bought a hse, got 6ft tank in middle garden,
the owner asking us to help sell coz my fr dun wan, 60k setup so 2nd hand also will maybe still high cholestrol.
live stock in malaysia can consider cheap already. whistling.gif


Added on December 17, 2009, 1:12 am
QUOTE(Namgor2006 @ Dec 17 2009, 12:42 AM)
No worries, man. Have u ever face the blackout problem more than 1 day? The Fish & corals actually can survive in the tank within 24 hours, they r tougher than goldfish  laugh.gif

I think, nobody ever brave enough to keep the marine fish without air pump/ filter/ protein skimmer. It's because if they do, the fish might survive but not beautiful grown.
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coral should be ok for 24hours, shipment transport around the globe just in plastic bags. however certain fish and invertebrates stay in our tank with skimmer and high oksigen, suddenly stop for too long will kill them, always good decision not to keep too many inhabitants if don't have backup plan. icon_rolleyes.gif

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post Dec 17 2009, 11:27 AM

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QUOTE(Evrae90 @ Dec 17 2009, 02:29 AM)
i heard puchong oceanic n ikano have nice deals compared to megamall.

yea i 2nd alex's comment that live stock in malaysia is cheap. In malaysia blue tang is RM30+ but in USA a blue tang will cost 30$. Clownfish RM10, in US its 10$. Basing this price on my local stores n liveaquaria.com


Added on December 17, 2009, 2:31 amabout air pump im wondering, you guys use air pump in your tanks?
I only have my hang on filter n protein skimmer.
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no you don't, especially with air stone in reef tank should be avoid unless just backup plan for short time.


Added on December 17, 2009, 11:44 am
QUOTE(silverbolt143 @ Dec 17 2009, 10:14 AM)
Mmmm, i'm an internal auditor actually ph34r.gif  tongue.gif
Sometimes the client is abroad and the assignment may take up to 2 weeks to be honest  rclxub.gif 
Still assessing whether i should venture into this marine hobby since no one can help me look after the tank if i'm not around... cry.gif
Power break-out is my concern at the moment...

My other concern is water parameter....what parameter can drastically change (marine tank) within a week or two in case i'm not at home???
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backup ac pump can support up to 24hrs incase blackout, anyhow you have the same concern as me, i can be away for months, last month was away for 2wks, chiller spoil cause serious damage but was lucky enough some frs to swap a chiller for me and bring it for fixing.

as i always said, bigger tank is more forgiving and bigger tank you can have bigger sump, can put ca reactor, sulphur reactor and big refugium which will all contribute in keeping your water parameter intact even if you are away for 2 wks or more. just don't keep target feeding coral like rhyzo, supersun etc.

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post Dec 20 2009, 05:21 PM

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anemone need lights, if not enough lighting than need supplyment with food occasionally.


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post Dec 20 2009, 11:41 PM

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your pump might be too strong also can consider making a hang on back sump to hide ur skimmer and have return pump push the water back to your main tank, outlet can use a hydor bioflo, also fire goby like to jump when got shock, better have some corner cover


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post Dec 21 2009, 09:26 AM

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KH noneed to test during first month, after your tank stable only it will drop but also slowly depends on your live stocks. PH swing high in day and low as night, there's no point of measuring it, so far never check PH.

if your pump too strong it will over stress your fish, most corals won't open and with high risk of anemone being suck into the powerhead, many time this thing happen
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post Dec 21 2009, 03:10 PM

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flow top or middle better, best againts some rock so the wave u circulate to more areas.

PH swing mostly due to oksigen depletion, too much positive ion. so keeping your KH high will enable more buffering capacity, aragonite mixed sand will be good, get cheap 1 will do.

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post Dec 27 2009, 09:16 PM

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QUOTE(silverbolt143 @ Dec 24 2009, 10:58 AM)
My tank temperature is raising as i fill it up sweat.gif ,
- 1st day, empty tank with live rock only ----> 26-27'c
- 3rd day, put-in 10watt 1000lph powerhead -----> 27-28'c
- 4th day, put-in sands to cover half of the tank bed ----> 28-29'c

At the moment i DIY three 12cm PC fans to blow the tank surface & manage to bring down the temp to 27'c or 81'F
Still wanna put another 5kg sands and maybe 4kg of live rock...

What are these thing anyway (circled in red)...found it grow since day 2 on my liverock....
is it safe or should it scrap it off???? there's few others around my LR  sweat.gif
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just leave it , the more u try to get rid of it, the more it will grow.
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post Dec 28 2009, 03:24 PM

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QUOTE(edthrax @ Dec 28 2009, 01:41 AM)
just got a free 3ft tank.. the measurement is 3 X 1.5 X 1.5 ft... which would be a 50 gallon tank. The thickness is 6mm.. would it be safe for marine tank?

It does have 2 braces at the top which i heard helps to prevent glass bending..  dont plan to fill the water till the top though.. maybe up to 1.2-1.3 feet of water..
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can use, just re-enforce it, base of the tank put 4pcs of glass and use strong silicon to glue it togather, top front & back also do the same, middle add 1 more middle frame to pull it togather. after that you can fill up to the top.

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post Dec 29 2009, 09:06 AM

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QUOTE(edthrax @ Dec 28 2009, 03:37 PM)
for the base..i put it inside the tank? any recommended brand of silicon that i should use? where would i get the glass for the base ? need to order or there's a precut glass in LFS?
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glass shop not LFS and you ask them for the silicon, they sell togather.


Added on December 29, 2009, 9:09 am
QUOTE(edthrax @ Dec 28 2009, 07:51 PM)
yeah.. 50 gallon.. way upgrade from my 15 gallon.. but abit worried whether the 6mm glass can hold the saltwater pressure... the guy who gave it to me said it was used as saltwater sump with the braces on.. but was converted into freshwater tank hence the brace was removed. But he did gave me 2 braces..
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worry is not your tank, is the base which is hold it

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post Dec 29 2009, 11:13 PM

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QUOTE(silverbolt143 @ Dec 29 2009, 12:10 PM)
hye guys, would it be sufficient to feed the fish with flakes....
i browse through internet and found out about some fish can be feed with brine shrimps and frozen feed...does it same like the one for freshwater fish...??
did LFS selling brine shrimps and frozen feed for saltwater fish???
i'm planning to keep tangs, clowns, goby, damsel in my tank....
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tang need train it to eat pallets else will die of mulnutrition, certain tang doesn't take flakes, certain only glaze algae or even specific type of algae only, some need live plankton

clown is pig, will eat almost everything, overfeed will kill them

goby not recommended for new tank, most goby only eat live pod so if your tank less thank 6months than can forget it,
unless u train it to take frozen food.

damsel can throw away

before go buy any fish , study first , buy a book, check the internet or else don't buy, better leave them in the ocean


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post Dec 30 2009, 09:21 AM

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QUOTE(silverbolt143 @ Dec 30 2009, 12:57 AM)
Kota D'sara? i think i know that if it's located near giant..thanks for the info  thumbup.gif
That's what i'm doing rite now...read a bit & asking around to ensure i don't misunderstand.... icon_rolleyes.gif
Thanks for the info  icon_rolleyes.gif Read about goby feed on live pod...however when i surf around there are live pod been selling in bottle online....
does this live pod available at our LFS???
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occasionally some LFS will sell but expensive, live pod u can breed with big refugium in your sump tank or your tank is big , lots of hiding places and the pod already grow until the level which it's population won't be wipe out totally by the goby.

goby to eat bbs & pallets , this require lots of patient and time to train.
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post Dec 30 2009, 07:35 PM

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QUOTE(silverbolt143 @ Dec 30 2009, 12:01 PM)
Ooohhh, poor damsels...why u guys hate it so much  laugh.gif
I read damsels are notorious....however lots of LFS put them with other fish and it seems they live happily together....
Perhaps can buy a bottle and pour it in separate 10 gallon tank then breed it brows.gif is it possible??  sweat.gif
But need to feed with phyto rite...
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when they are by the dozens it won't fight, anyhow is ok if u like it, jusy buy thumbup.gif

ya, phyto is pod food source

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post Dec 30 2009, 09:17 PM

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make a fish trap to get them out.
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QUOTE(edthrax @ Dec 30 2009, 09:43 PM)
well i was planning for a rescape of my live rocks..so decided to take all the live rocks out.. and catch those 2 damsels.... biggrin.gif ...  after that..my maroon and blue tang looked happier.. because they we're not hiding or passive anymore
will be moving all my live rocks and livestock to the new 3ft tank.. can i use my previous sand + few bags of new sand or do i need to buy new sands?  will cycle the 3 ft 1st before moving the livestock in..
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next time get a coke botol, cut the end part but not all, so can flip it to close the entrance, cut a hole at the side so can put a suction plug to hold it to the glass. put a pcs of mirror inside, the stupid fish will attack and you can get it out easily.

put the new sand in, do a big wc and dump the water from old tank to your new one. cycle it until ready. move your life stock.
wash the old sand and dry it before add it into your new tank. icon_rolleyes.gif

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