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alexlow
post Nov 17 2009, 11:31 PM

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QUOTE(ruknu @ Nov 17 2009, 10:37 PM)
thank alex..it is necessary i add wave maker to my 2ft tank??
i already have 2 power head, and i want to remove 1 and add wave maker..it is okey??
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this wave maker is ok for my 2ft tank??
at my LFS, about rm48..
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not necessary but is good to occasionally have some wave to circulate the water and blow surface, avoid dead zone.
only worry is if you have anemone, they will get suck up.
i use a misaki to auto control my wave maker when on
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post Nov 18 2009, 11:02 PM

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QUOTE(Evrae90 @ Nov 18 2009, 07:51 PM)
i think most probably i get 2 feet or 2 and the half feet. i heard many ppl use 3 feet got problem.
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plenty of 3ft reefer around rclxm9.gif if possible get bigger better, more forgiving.
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post Nov 19 2009, 11:39 AM

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QUOTE(jason86 @ Nov 19 2009, 10:33 AM)
hei guyz...been years i had stopped my marinetank hobby....so now feel like getting one again....a 2ft tank with 1 banded coral shrimp,2 percula clown, 1 4-stripe damsel, 1yellow tailed damsel, 1 anemone, 2 feather duster, 1 grean star coral , 1 turbo snail, 1 seastar(dont knw the name-skin look like lizard's skin)....

now going to get a saltwater tank again but forgot all my knowledge regarding saltwater tank;.... sleep.gif'
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rclxms.gif new tank.. cool, have a sump tank will be better & avoid damsel for small tank.

Added on November 19, 2009, 11:41 am
QUOTE(edthrax @ Nov 19 2009, 10:57 AM)
i just read on the net bout acclimatized freshwater molly to put in marine tank.. i did that slowly 2 days ago.. and it works.. i have a black molly fish in my marine tank.. so far its swimming happily... and eating any hair algae i have on my liverocks...

from what i've read.. molly and guppy can be acclimatized to saltwater but guppy is abit slower to do... i acclimatized my molly in 3 hours.. slowly adding salt to the water..until the salinity is 1.021
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most brackish water fish can be acclimatize to full salt water, take cardinal fish for instead, when is juvenile it will most stay at the river mouth.

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post Nov 30 2009, 11:07 AM

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QUOTE(ruknu @ Nov 19 2009, 11:06 PM)
alex, what do u prefer..,2 african clown or 1 african and 1 tomato clown in 2ft tank??
and, which less aggressive..
in my tank, already have 1 yellow tail damsel,2 anemone,1 coral banded shrimp,..
and i would like to add 1 blue hippo tang(the smallest one), 2 clown fish(above @ other clown) and
fire or cleaner shrimp..
what do u think??my last claki clown died yesterday..very2 sad.... cry.gif ...

Added on November 19, 2009, 11:12 pm

if i were u, i go to 3ft tank with sump pump(package and come with cabinet) it about rm 700..all u need to buy is skimmer,light,
wave maker and filter media (wool, carbon, phosphate remover, and etc..)
u also need to add some live rock..it all up to u,,only my suggestion..
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hi ruknu, sorry for the late reply, was oversea for few wks
try not to host too many fish, 1 clown/anemone will better.
blue tang need rock to hide , get small one to start will be good, more chance of surviving

Added on November 30, 2009, 11:11 am
QUOTE(khchong81 @ Nov 25 2009, 11:51 PM)
Hi, i plan to start a small marine aquarium in my study room. Any suggestion where can i view all the necessary equipment and setup in Klang Valley. Prefer a pet shop with wide marine variety and reasonable price. I just need a very small aquarium with cabinet to rear clown fish, some corals etc...really noob in this area but excited each time i saw colourful marine aquarium in midvalley.
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go puchong, oceanic

Added on November 30, 2009, 11:18 am
QUOTE(edthrax @ Nov 20 2009, 12:38 PM)
just found a small crab in my tank.. its white and have like black spots on its body... size of a 5 cents.. cute looking buddy..but cant manage to take a picture of it.. always hide inside the rock..
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just make sure is not carnivorous, it wil chew off your bottom dweller fish like goby and so on.

Added on November 30, 2009, 11:26 am
QUOTE(khchong81 @ Nov 26 2009, 02:57 PM)
I plan to start a small tank with a budget of 500-600. But i really don't know which shop is more reliable and trustable as i'am worried i will be conned.
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try to get the biggest tank possible, if your house have the space than go for 3ft else minimum 2ft
go and visit several shop first, see how ppl setup their overflow and sump, don't buy anything yet, learn & learn.
all your secondary school days knowledge will come into handy, biology, chemistry & physics.

this hobby can be cheap & very expensive, did help several frs setup their tank b4, most of them have bigger tank than mine even newbies.
lately just help make a skimmer for a 4ft reef, a nw skimmer for this vol of tank normally just throw you away with rm500-600
make ourself will cost around half but you need to have the time to do it.

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post Dec 1 2009, 03:02 PM

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this not the final version, need to have good cone head design only bubble will burst more effectively. depends on what kind of result and budget u have, creativity doesn't have it's limit.

and u r correct, thats a powerhead to generate the bubble.

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post Dec 2 2009, 01:30 AM

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QUOTE(ruknu @ Dec 1 2009, 07:39 PM)
thank..but to find the skimmer that work effectiveness,must have big budget..and some lfs don't have it..

by the way alex, could u give some tip how to make diy skimmer??cos, i think good water quality comes
with good and effective skimmer..I'm i right??
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not necessary big budget, it will depends on what you want to keep and many other factors, certain corals prefer murky water with higher nutrients.
skimmer play important roles not just removing doc , toxic. also provide enough oksigen for your fish and corals, enug to control PH swing etc.
so sure good skimmer is important, tips also i can't say much coz still experimental stages and learning.

Added on December 2, 2009, 1:45 am
QUOTE(Evrae90 @ Dec 1 2009, 06:20 PM)
i discovered that just recently lol. i got a powerhead for my 20gallon n i noticed it produced bubbles when the water inlet is in open air/clogged.

btw ruknu i tink u can get a protein skimmer for 3ft less than 300 cause i asked my lfs before when i was considering 3 ft.
but i dont know about its effectiveness or appropriateness.
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look for needlewheel type.

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post Dec 2 2009, 09:25 AM

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QUOTE(Evrae90 @ Dec 2 2009, 01:55 AM)
guys any tips on taking care of detritus besides using sand star?
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turbo snail, put dozen in and everything will be sparkling clean
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post Dec 2 2009, 05:24 PM

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QUOTE(Evrae90 @ Dec 2 2009, 02:56 PM)
depends on what type of coral u want to keep bro or if u can maintain stable and suitable water temperature in your aquarium is good enuf unless ur house is hot.

this website http://www.liveaquaria.com/product/prod_di...724&pcatid=2724
recommend to keep corals til 78F which is approximately 26 C.

lol or u make urself a chiller..look at this http://benkrasnow.blogspot.com/2009/03/diy...um-chiller.html
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i prefer 27c, just incase anything goes wrong, temp goes up, using fan we still archieve 28c
some coral temp above 28c will be stress to them.
chiller not worth diy , we try before. i using resun but plan to upgrade soon.

Added on December 2, 2009, 5:32 pm
QUOTE(khchong81 @ Dec 2 2009, 02:21 PM)
Is it Chiller is very important in reefing? Visit East Aqua and the sales personal informed me that chiller is a must for coral to grow and 1 chiller cost me 1k+ sad.gif
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chiller is a worthwhile investment, you noneed to worry so much about water vaporizing, constant water temp , your fish & coral will luv it.
can look for 2nd hand, most ppl using small chiller but once they want to upgrade to bigger than they change to split con unit.

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post Dec 3 2009, 04:05 PM

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QUOTE(Namgor2006 @ Dec 3 2009, 01:10 AM)
Hi. Where do u all buying the Marine Fish Aquarium Equipment mostly? I am still wondering. Hahah
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definately marine base local fish shop, not those fresh water shop, most of them know nothing much about salt water fish keeping. listen to them can go holland very fast. rclxm9.gif
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post Dec 7 2009, 11:09 AM

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QUOTE(weeloong81 @ Dec 7 2009, 08:33 AM)
thanks bro... cant wait to put my live rock n today will go n buy more to put in...
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rclxms.gif congratulation
fish only with live rocks or reef tank?
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post Dec 8 2009, 05:33 PM

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skimmer need bigger 1, should consider putting hang on back sump, or make overflow, have sump tank inside your cabinet, hide everything inside & will be quiet, also you can put a better skimmer.

canister filter not necessary but since already have it can use de.
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post Dec 9 2009, 11:45 PM

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QUOTE(ruknu @ Dec 9 2009, 11:22 PM)
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can i use this type of canister filter??my tank does't have any room to put sump..
it'is okey??
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yes, you can use but need to clean regulary or else will do more harm than good.
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post Dec 10 2009, 12:05 AM

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QUOTE(weeloong81 @ Dec 9 2009, 11:29 PM)
bro ruknu... how offen u change water? salt add before water in or how?
my skimmer bubble not tat many, mean my tank not enough protein rite? any solution? thanks ya...
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for new tank, change 30%-40% each week.
as your tank mature than can consider changing less often but need to dose trace element.
always fill up water first before add in salt, never salt than water
your tank still new and clean, nothing much to skim, protein is waste.
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post Dec 10 2009, 12:39 AM

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QUOTE(weeloong81 @ Dec 10 2009, 12:12 AM)
thanks a lot...
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anyhow don't add anymore live stock, your tank not ready
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post Dec 10 2009, 01:08 AM

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QUOTE(ruknu @ Dec 10 2009, 12:31 AM)
yeah..every one right..just pick one..they have many style to take care their tank..go reef!!! rclxm9.gif

Added on December 10, 2009, 12:35 amQUOTE(alexlow @ Dec 9 2009, 11:45 PM)
yes, you can use but need to clean regulary or else will do more harm than good.
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it's don't same as sump??in there i want to put filter wool,rowa phos, and carbon..want to buy the smallest one..
it's it okey??

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better spend the money to make a hang on back sump.
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post Dec 10 2009, 01:24 AM

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QUOTE(weeloong81 @ Dec 10 2009, 01:04 AM)
but my tank already have life rock... will it die? i added on 3rd day... alamak...
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don't overfeed, keep tempreture low and change water more regulary
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post Dec 10 2009, 04:24 PM

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QUOTE(Evrae90 @ Dec 10 2009, 02:55 AM)
hey weelong i dont see anything wrong with your protein skimmer. just leave it, its working i guess. dont worry bout the bubbles n stuff, as long as your skimmer got come out bubbles then its ok.

since your tank is new, i dont think u will see much stuff or dirt collecting.

sump - increase total water volume, can put all your equipment there.
BUT have to drill hole, fix water pumps n stuff.

dont worry, your live rock wont 'die'. at first i started my tank about 2 months ago, alex said my live rock looks dead but now
it has some living organisms like feather dusters.
bacteria just follow instructions on the bottle.
if u have ro water u can use it to mix with your salt without using any dechlorinator or other stuff.
some ppl avoid using tap water cause it may contain silicates, encourages algae growth but i dont know our 1Malaysia tap water suitable or not.
hey alex, my 2ft tank what's the lighting specs you recommend for a reef tank?
if the lights too expensive i dont think i'm going reef with my 20G. Mabe just fix the normal 20w lights.
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4watt per gallon. 20gallon x 4 = 80 watt
will cost you rm200-rm250

Added on December 10, 2009, 4:28 pm
QUOTE(weeloong81 @ Dec 10 2009, 10:01 AM)
thanks bro... my tempreture is 27oc... high?

Added on December 10, 2009, 10:04 am

many thanks for your kind advise... still manything need fromall of u... hahaha...

Added on December 10, 2009, 2:19 pmi jus check mine...
Ammonia about 0.5ppm - 1.0ppm
Nitrate about 5.0ppm - 0ppm
i think i still need to cycling my tank lo...
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27c is good but don't let it swing up and down.
if ammonia detectable than you need change water more regulary.
get a botol of biofuel to speed up the bacteria growth.

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post Dec 10 2009, 05:31 PM

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QUOTE(silverbolt143 @ Dec 10 2009, 05:21 PM)
hye i'm newbie here...when we talk about gallon, is it refering to US gallon or UK gallon...
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US

Added on December 10, 2009, 5:33 pm
QUOTE(weeloong81 @ Dec 10 2009, 05:26 PM)
thanks... then will change the water... which brand u use for the biofuel?
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doesn't matter, all does the samething. i use brightwell

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post Dec 11 2009, 01:06 AM

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QUOTE(weeloong81 @ Dec 10 2009, 05:42 PM)
alex, any standard parameters that can follow? I found this...

http://www.chuisui.com/viewthread.php?tid=3364

the price range for brightwell biofuel? how many spoon of sea salt = 1L of water?
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not sure, bought long time ago, anyhow salt u use your hydrometer to measure until it reach 1.022 will do
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post Dec 11 2009, 01:38 AM

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[quote=ruknu,Dec 10 2009, 07:33 PM]
[quote=alexlow,Dec 10 2009, 04:24 PM]
4watt per gallon. 20gallon x 4 = 80 watt
will cost you rm200-rm250

8o watt of fluorescent light or vho light @ power compact light??
i use 1 ,20w white 18000K power glow by hagen brand and 2 ,20w marine glow by hagen brand..
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depends on what kind of corals you keep, deep or shallow tank.
4watt/gallon just a guideline
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