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 Basic Intake and Exhaust Modification Guide, for normal aspirated cars v1.0

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post Nov 21 2010, 05:54 PM

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Haha. All also wolf in sheep clothing. 2 inch piping also can look like stock standard. Haha.
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post Dec 6 2010, 09:50 PM

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QUOTE(ciohbu @ Nov 21 2010, 06:16 PM)
any advice to change my stock extractor ?

- wira 1.5 injec auto aeroback
- 80% highway 20% city
- currently 1km : rm0.14 - ron 95
- just changed my cat con to after market swirl bullet
- stock muffler

thanx
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4-2-1 extractor.

QUOTE(e30 @ Dec 6 2010, 06:37 PM)
hi, my car is a satria 1.3 injection. currently i'm using a 4-2-1 extractor (cap ayam) and replaced catcon with a straight flow centre bullet. everything else  is stock. i am planning to change my muffler to a straight flow (2"  inlet) , but am not sure what piping size to use from bullet to muffler? is the standard piping ok or should i use larger piping. oh ya i plan to follow original piping route and not straight piping. any advise?
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Piping use 1.7". Follow original piping route.
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post Dec 7 2010, 05:07 AM

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QUOTE(e30 @ Dec 6 2010, 10:07 PM)
thanks for the recommendation. do you happen to know what size the standard satria 1.3 piping is?
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If not mistaken about 1.5"-1.6"...
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post Dec 7 2010, 06:31 PM

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QUOTE(e30 @ Dec 7 2010, 02:27 PM)
oh ok thanks. from what i heard, the satria/wira SE uses 1/7" piping. so perhaps i will find a used piece, or just get one made at the shop.
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Not sure about wira se piping though. But wira se stock 4-2-1 extractor is good stuff.
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post Dec 8 2010, 04:47 AM

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QUOTE(bluetomsguy @ Dec 7 2010, 08:59 PM)
noob question here...
How to recognised 4-2-1 or 4-1..
for BLM...
what is the setting ?
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4-2-1 extractor

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4-1 extractor
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post Dec 8 2010, 03:11 PM

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QUOTE(bluetomsguy @ Dec 8 2010, 01:13 PM)
thx....
means that the stock blm is 4-1...
i already change mine to 4-1 long primaries...
what is the next thing to do for my exhaust system ?
Thx in advance....
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Piping size. Decat.
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post Dec 9 2010, 01:40 AM

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QUOTE(bluetomsguy @ Dec 8 2010, 07:18 PM)
done that....
the guys in the workshop said that the next best thing to do for extra performance is change the crank pully...
and then the air intake....using open pod...
is dat correct bro ?
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Crankpulley yes.
But open pod not necessary better. Depending on ur driving characteristic. Drive slow low rev around town, stick wif drop in filter. If rev high and highway often, open pod suits u.
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post Dec 10 2010, 12:19 AM

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QUOTE(bluetomsguy @ Dec 9 2010, 04:07 AM)
what is the range of low and high rev bro ?
i usually change :

1st-2nd gear at 2.5k-3k rpm
2nd-3rd gear at 2.5k rpm
3rd-4th gear at 3k rpm
4th-5th gear at 3k rpm

- the other thing is...if i change the crank pulley...do i need to  re-tune the engine ?

thx bro...
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drop in filter more suitable for u i think... if u alwiz drive around town, start stop, traffic jams, etc...

no need re-tune engine laa...
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post Dec 10 2010, 01:44 PM

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QUOTE(bluetomsguy @ Dec 10 2010, 12:50 AM)
ic...Nice 2 know dat...
maybe i wil change to sport spring 1st because when i am speeding at the corner...My car seems to a lil bit flying...hehe
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suspension + antiroll bar

QUOTE(bluetomsguy @ Dec 10 2010, 12:25 PM)
from what i know that the stock BLM is attached with the cats...so when u change it with a new extractor, it would also remove the cats...
cats is the biggest restrictive in the exhaust system....
Correct me if im wrong guys....
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post Dec 10 2010, 03:54 PM

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QUOTE(bluetomsguy @ Dec 10 2010, 02:04 PM)
nice pic there...
for city driving...better goes for the sport absorber or adjustable ?
which one would the biggest impact on car handling ?
suspension or antiroll bar ?
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city driving better use stock standard suspension.. tongue.gif
depends on ur budget and how much handling improvement
suspension gives biggest impact in handling...

QUOTE(kidmad @ Dec 10 2010, 02:58 PM)
guys the CAT is the part which takung all the harmful substance right? i installed Open Pod recently thus i am going to test it out 1st and see before i go into other modification tongue.gif

Open Pod on BLM for BROOM BROOM. now i sked my FC goes from bad to worst. hahahahaha
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not takung laa.. catalytic converter converts harmful nitrogen oxide into oxygen and nitrogen... and carbon monoxide into carbon dioxide...
means what exits from ur CAT will be nitrogen and carbon dioxide... instead of harmful nitrogen oxide and carbon monoxide...

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QUOTE(kidmad @ Dec 10 2010, 05:31 PM)
Wow i dorwan to do more harm to mother nature. What else can i do besides of 4-2-1 extract? btw i saw Zenden here and there, what it suppose to do?
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complete exhaust system lor.... u mean zenden which product??... zenden is a name.....

QUOTE(bluetomsguy @ Dec 10 2010, 05:46 PM)
I need my handling to be improved at high speed corner...
at the same time...
i dun want it to be too stiff...
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try antiroll bar first...

QUOTE(kidmad @ Dec 10 2010, 10:19 PM)
Guys any idea where i can find iradium spark plug. was looking for high and low in klang but cant find. need some guidance. hehe
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iradium quite hard to find as i also dunno got such thing exist...
if iridium can find laa... u looking for what brand??... denso??... ngk??... jasma??... tongue.gif
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post Dec 11 2010, 12:26 AM

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QUOTE(kidmad @ Dec 10 2010, 10:28 PM)
haha sorry my bad for the spelling. im looking for any brand as i dont think there is difference. you selling bro? prefer if can COD tomorrow la. not working ma.
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i selling but i dont do COD... PM me for more info...

QUOTE(bluetomsguy @ Dec 10 2010, 10:49 PM)
For Jasma crank pullley...
if someone selling it at rm140...is it ori ?
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jasma stuff so cheap adi still got people wanna do imitation for it??... doh.gif
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post Dec 11 2010, 04:32 AM

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QUOTE(bluetomsguy @ Dec 11 2010, 01:35 AM)
know i know its cheap...just afraid of the imitation...
means that between jasma and works engineering...which 1 is better ?
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works engineering LCP is far more expensive compare to jasma... finishing is comparatively better compare to jasma...

but i do sell jasma products... so my comment will be bias... biggrin.gif
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post Dec 11 2010, 11:20 PM

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QUOTE(bluetomsguy @ Dec 11 2010, 12:06 PM)
u sell it also...include installation or not..hehe...
is it the same size as stock crank pulley but much lighter weight ?
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i dont have proper tools to do installation laa... so i jz sell the stuff...
there is 2 version... same size and downsized... weight is approx half of stock pulley...
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QUOTE(bluetomsguy @ Dec 11 2010, 11:39 PM)
what is the pros n cons of the downsized crank pulley ?
is it also half the weight of stock crank puley ?
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yes... both sizes have approx the same weight...
with downsized crankpulley, u need less torque to spin ur auxiliary pulley... similar concept to ur bicycle... if the front sprocket is smaller than rear ones, u can accelerate faster....

the downside is, at idling, ur auxiliary pulley will spin abit slower... hence less cooling aircond or less charging alternator...

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post Dec 20 2010, 07:21 PM

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QUOTE(ss1st @ Dec 20 2010, 04:36 PM)
Hi sifus, I'm a newbie in air filter and exhaust modification.
I'm driving a Saga BLM AT and I would like my car to have:
1. better fuel efficiency,
2. better pick up, or better low-end power IIANM (I don't mind about top speed though as I never exceed 130-140km/h even on highway) - my understading is, better pick up = save fuel?
3. less noise

Can sifus recommend some modifications to achieve the "goal" mentioned above on:
1. What are the parts should I modify the exhaust system?
2. What are the recommended brands of parts should I get?
3. Roughly how much are those parts cost?
4. Any good workshop to recommend near Puchong, Sunway, Subang area?
5. Should I modify the intake/air filter as well?

Thanks in advance for your answers.
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ur goal is not easy to achieve...

1. change to 4-2-1 extractor... as well as the whole exhaust system...
2. hotbits seems to get good reviews...
3. prepare rm1k...
4. EA autoworks... speedworks... after12... etc...
5. use drop-in k&n air filter... or WORKS cf airfilter kit seems to work well....
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post Dec 29 2010, 09:39 PM

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QUOTE(shen1716 @ Dec 29 2010, 06:00 PM)
Hi all, i just change my wira 1.5 ori extractor to powerzone 4-2-1 at powerzone dealer..but after one day,my check engine light was keep on,after check with the boss,he said O2 sensor is spoil,he give me excuse that maybe ngam ngam my o2 sensor wan spoil oredi,and the spoil is not his false...so i wan to ask izit it's due to workmanship problem or other root cause? Thanks
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where u change it??.. possibly workmanship problem...
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post Dec 30 2010, 12:42 PM

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QUOTE(shen1716 @ Dec 29 2010, 10:46 PM)
M-Power Automobile at Penang.....Powerzone authorised dealer..

http://www.powerzone.com.my/cms/index.php?...id=17&Itemid=29
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not much u can do if they dont admit... u still have to change new o2 sensor...
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QUOTE(JeffreyYap @ Jan 1 2011, 12:25 PM)
My satria neo CPS mid section piping is 1.75inch, my rear muffler 's piping is 1.7inch(because come with the muffler).. Will increase back pressure but wont cause restrictive airflow right when the air pass from 1.75 piping to 1.7.
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ur setup is still ok coz when exhaust gas reaches the mid section, it starts to slow down due to decrease in exhaust gas temperature... hence, u need to create a bottleneck so exhaust gas can flow through it faster and exit quicker...
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QUOTE(LittleBro @ Jan 11 2011, 03:10 PM)
Why i see some exhaust mod got sparks coming out?
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dat one is called misfiring... it has pros and cons...

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