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dares
post Sep 22 2012, 12:11 PM

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QUOTE(choonhuen.koh @ Sep 22 2012, 12:04 PM)

In addition, i c there's a bulk goin on here for LEDs; any pics on those items, kinda interested.
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post Sep 22 2012, 12:16 PM

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QUOTE(dares @ Sep 22 2012, 12:06 PM)
Straight got EV la, since they already got gaga prototype  brows.gif  brows.gif

Btw, from my observation using realtime instant FC reading fromthe OBD2, I find that it is more efficient to quickly accelerate to the desired speed than to slowly move up the speedometer. I dont mean slam the pedal, just apply enoug throttle to accelerate at the most  efficient rate.  you can tell when the km/l will decrease as you start accelerating, but will then slowly increase as you gain speed. The goal is to spend the least amount of time in the phase where km/l is decreasing.

After you have reach the desired speed, maintain minimal throttle to cruise at that speed.

For example, one nite I got cucuk by a MPV, so I full throttle to about 120kph and after smoking him I just slowly decelerate back to 90 to cruise. To my surprise, my long term avg km/l INCREASED!!  thumbup.gif

Do note the above observation is on my car, dunno if it applies to other engines and trannys
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I'd take REEV over EV any day. EV habis bateri, mati liao. Gotta spend a few hours charging. REEV? Still can fill up and jalan brows.gif

Hmmmm I get what you mean because my vacuum gauge, doubles as my fuel consumption meter and if I were to plot a graph of vacuum reading against time for the two situations you've described I think accelerating harder would yield higher average vacuum.
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post Sep 22 2012, 12:21 PM

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QUOTE(lhwj @ Sep 22 2012, 12:16 PM)
I'd take REEV over EV any day. EV habis bateri, mati liao. Gotta spend a few hours charging. REEV? Still can fill up and jalan brows.gif

Hmmmm I get what you mean because my vacuum gauge, doubles as my fuel consumption meter and if I were to plot a graph of vacuum reading against time for the two situations you've described I think accelerating harder would yield higher average vacuum.
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Accelerate hard = Vacuum 0

Harder suction came AFTER the hard acceleration, and that disturb the fuel efficient meter on OBD2, make it think currently having 26in/hg whilst doing 120kph, and reflect as 20km/l. Fuel efficient meter is good in terms of, uses amount of vacuum calculate base on average with speed and time of travelling. Sorry I don't have the formula, but thats basically how a fuel efficient gauge works
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post Sep 22 2012, 12:23 PM

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Besides using vacuum gauge, why don't install a AFR gauge as well. biggrin.gif
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post Sep 22 2012, 12:25 PM

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siapa siapa mau cari sport rim ? lols... i know one in puchong la... but of course not as cheap as in klang... smile.gif
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post Sep 22 2012, 12:29 PM

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QUOTE(davidke20 @ Sep 22 2012, 12:21 PM)
Accelerate hard = Vacuum 0

Harder suction came AFTER the hard acceleration, and that disturb the fuel efficient meter on OBD2, make it think currently having 26in/hg whilst doing 120kph, and reflect as 20km/l. Fuel efficient meter is good in terms of, uses amount of vacuum calculate base on average with speed and time of travelling. Sorry I don't have the formula, but thats basically how a fuel efficient gauge works
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I believe the OBD2 uses fuel flow rate instead of vacuum to calculate fc.
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post Sep 22 2012, 12:43 PM

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QUOTE(mengsuan @ Sep 22 2012, 12:23 PM)
Besides using vacuum gauge, why don't install a AFR gauge as well. biggrin.gif
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Where to get 1, tap in to where? How to read it? Or you're talking about wide band sensor? Please teach notworthy.gif

QUOTE(dares @ Sep 22 2012, 12:29 PM)
I believe the OBD2 uses fuel flow rate instead of vacuum to calculate fc.
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Could be, I'm not sure. Since I don't get to see the fuel flow, the most reliable data will be vacuum alone. sad.gif
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post Sep 22 2012, 12:43 PM

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QUOTE(kenjilew @ Sep 22 2012, 12:25 PM)
siapa siapa mau cari sport rim ? lols... i know one in puchong la... but of course not as cheap as in klang... smile.gif
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I wan cari!!
But I know subway oso got one but forget what name and what thing have to take note before chg like the rim type or brand?
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post Sep 22 2012, 12:45 PM

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QUOTE(nickzkuso @ Sep 22 2012, 12:43 PM)
I wan cari!!
But I know subway oso got one but forget what name and what thing have to take note before chg like the rim type or brand?
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mari mari... bro david also wanna come see ~ must check the price, place of prodution for the rims, size, brand new or used, condition... smile.gif
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post Sep 22 2012, 12:45 PM

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As I know esso nearby that leisure mall is ald popular of snatch thief... That esso ald black list by me cos of this and look kedai hitam @@


Added on September 22, 2012, 12:47 pm
QUOTE(kenjilew @ Sep 22 2012, 12:45 PM)
mari mari... bro david also wanna come see ~ must check the price, place of prodution for the rims, size, brand new or used, condition... smile.gif
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Okok but bila bila?
Cos my tyre bunga habis soon sad.gif

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post Sep 22 2012, 12:51 PM

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QUOTE(nickzkuso @ Sep 22 2012, 12:45 PM)
As I know esso nearby that leisure mall is ald popular of snatch thief... That esso ald black list by me cos of this and look kedai hitam @@


Added on September 22, 2012, 12:47 pm
Okok but bila bila?
Cos my tyre bunga habis soon sad.gif
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still can tahan kah ? that place sell sport rims cheap only... the only tyre they selling is TOYO T1R and if u wan cheapest also falken 522...
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post Sep 22 2012, 12:59 PM

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falken 522??good luck..

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Wait till you are on the Falken 522 then u'll get a more accurate definition of lousy grip. Those who are looking forward for an ice skating experience in the wet are welcomed to use the Falken 522. brows.gif  Mind u, those are brand new Falken 522 I am talking (less than 1500km). It has me nearly killed twice.  mad.gif
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post Sep 22 2012, 01:23 PM

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QUOTE(davidke20 @ Sep 22 2012, 12:43 PM)
Where to get 1, tap in to where? How to read it? Or you're talking about wide band sensor? Please teach notworthy.gif
Could be, I'm not sure. Since I don't get to see the fuel flow, the most reliable data will be vacuum alone. sad.gif
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Our Campro engine uses narrow band sensor. If want cheap, just buy a narrow band gauge for about RM100-200, tap into the first O2 sensor. Input range is 0-1V, verified using OBD2.

If want accurate reading, install wide band sensor, which costs quite a lot.
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post Sep 22 2012, 01:23 PM

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QUOTE(davidke20 @ Sep 22 2012, 12:21 PM)
Accelerate hard = Vacuum 0
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Not necessarily up to 0. Maybe between 10-5.

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QUOTE(kenjilew @ Sep 22 2012, 12:51 PM)
still can tahan kah ? that place sell sport rims cheap only... the only tyre they selling is TOYO T1R and if u wan cheapest also falken 522...
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Still can tahan geh.. Toyo comfort nice? Lookin for continental sad.gif


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QUOTE(Mahihi @ Sep 22 2012, 12:59 PM)
falken 522??good luck..
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post Sep 22 2012, 01:40 PM

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QUOTE(nickzkuso @ Sep 22 2012, 01:27 PM)
Still can tahan geh.. Toyo comfort nice? Lookin for continental sad.gif


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post Sep 22 2012, 01:43 PM

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QUOTE(lhwj @ Sep 22 2012, 01:23 PM)
Not necessarily up to 0. Maybe between 10-5.
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auto easily 0... cry.gif

QUOTE(Mahihi @ Sep 22 2012, 01:40 PM)
mahihi ph34r.gif ph34r.gif


Added on September 22, 2012, 1:46 pmok... after getting my car and drive for few place... i think they fix it, really is wiring problem?? hmm.gif but my gear is smooth thn b4... they twitch my GB or they refixing my GB?? hmm.gif and yesterday juz notice... they free me 1 new air filter + 2 bottle 1 litre ATF fluid... shocking.gif

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post Sep 22 2012, 01:49 PM

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QUOTE(r3apers @ Sep 22 2012, 01:43 PM)
auto easily 0... cry.gif
mahihi ph34r.gif ph34r.gif


Added on September 22, 2012, 1:46 pmok... after getting my car and drive for few place... i think they fix it, really is wiring problem?? hmm.gif but my gear is smooth thn b4... they twitch my GB or they refixing my GB?? hmm.gif  and yesterday juz notice... they free me 1 new air filter + 2 bottle 1 litre ATF fluid... shocking.gif
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shocking.gif So good?
Never mentioned and stated what did they fix?
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QUOTE(Fubar20 @ Sep 22 2012, 01:49 PM)
shocking.gif So good?
Never mentioned and stated what did they fix?
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the resit only written repair wire.... thts all.... hmm.gif

i also shock while c got air filter and the ATF fluid.. make me wonder they took so long izzit they twitch around my car... sweat.gif
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post Sep 22 2012, 01:58 PM

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guys.. new speed trap locations..


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