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Ricgatebecko
post Oct 8 2012, 02:40 PM

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Seems like many fellow barbs are excited bout 105 and tweaking their build around. Nice to see so many diversity of builds and ideas ahead of 105. Will try my best to do highest MPlvl possible too with my 1H+SS build. Will switch to HOC + Strength/Vit/AR/LS belt in case survivability is an issue while sacrificing some DPS.

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post Oct 19 2012, 11:58 AM

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QUOTE(instrict_venus @ Oct 19 2012, 09:32 AM)
last 2 days i tried 5 times on infernal machine. none of the ingredient drop. anyone have try and got it?
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Be patient and have to keep trying bro... I did 4 uber kill on MP8 and got 2 of those organ. Hopefully I can get the last piece to craft my first Hellfire ring by this weekend.
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post Oct 30 2012, 11:09 AM

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QUOTE(amiranna @ Oct 30 2012, 10:25 AM)
and i still want my shield build.. biggrin.gif
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I like your build bro amiranna, I am a shield build barb too. I think you can definitely drop even more hp to gain DPS instead. Agree with what cheer83 suggested on the amulet and ring, would like to add that you can swap those amethyst in your pant and Ice Climbers to ruby too. Did some tweaking on my own barb recently if you want some humble reference for more dps...
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Ricgatebecko
post Nov 16 2012, 06:34 PM

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QUOTE(KiLLing-z2 @ Nov 16 2012, 03:38 PM)
I'm so addicted with Weapon Throw Barbar yawn.gif
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Same here~! Being a 1H + Shield barb since Inferno might have drain my interest and the amount of 'fun' I have in game. I can't do WW, DW or 2H effectively so I've picked up a 300th spear and decided to give full throw barb a try and I must urge any of fellow barb to at least give Weapon Throw / Ancient Spear a try, it's FUN! rclxm9.gif
That being said this is how I build my "Throw Barb", basically once warcry and battle rage (into the fray) is up, start throwing stuff and use ancient spear (dread spear) to heal or regain fury (in case ran out of fury). If being swarmed or situation where you need to kite, keep Rending to keep hp up. Rend also can be use once u hooked a mob near you with Ancient Spear, useful to keep your hp healthy for at least 5 secs. Item wise, 300th spear (imagine 40-50% extra dmg from 100-200k dps as a rough estimation) and any armor with reduce fury cost for Weapon Throw (to allows more Weapon Throw attempt) is highly recommended but not compulsory. Try to slot in No Escape passive for additional 10% dmg, Ancient Spear cooldown reset and fury regeneration chance via critical hit. While doing all of the above, keep spamming Overpower (Killing Spree) to keep 10 chc buff up as much as possible. If you're geared to have high base chc, swap in any other skill you might think useful. Kindly share it here too for other barbs reference.
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QUOTE(HaRuaN.X @ Nov 16 2012, 04:03 PM)
seeing u & rick, makes me wanna pickup my sheild again...maybe my next shift will be WW with sheild...
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Hey bro Haruan, thanks for mentioning and good to see Shield still being very useful in higher MP defensively or when a party needed a tanker in Uber bosses. I'm still keeping those equipment like Stormshield and HOC around for uber and high mp tanking. Throwing stuff most of the time nowadays... lotsa fun!

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post Nov 16 2012, 06:51 PM

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QUOTE(ALeUNe @ Nov 16 2012, 06:41 PM)
Monstrous build you got there.
A pure weapon throw build. Nice one.

I remember your shield-barb was top-ranked too.
I can see there are diversified builds for Barb. It's fun to play.
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You flattered me bro Aleune, thank you and likewise happy to see you still being active. Gotta have the community and all fellow barbs to keep it interesting. Yeah I'm still keeping my Stormshield and HOC in stash for party which need a tanker. Got into Throwing when I'm kinda bored and stagnant with 200k dps mark using a shield for quite long. Game feel refresh to me learning to be a range hero and throwing out axes most of the time now lol tongue.gif

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post Nov 26 2012, 10:31 AM

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QUOTE(dreaming @ Nov 26 2012, 09:45 AM)
nice uber party with brian, amiranna & moba.
i think you guys can do MP10 without any problem.
amiranna is super duper tanky smile.gif

sorry, my barb is still lousy, if not we can do full barbs party  laugh.gif
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Thank you for having me, that run was pretty efficient to say at least. With bro moba and amiranna around I can play throw barb in uber rclxm9.gif

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post Nov 26 2012, 11:05 AM

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QUOTE(chayjeong @ Nov 26 2012, 10:57 AM)
guys, which will u all choose? survival first or dps first?
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Survival > DPS IMO, dead bodies can't deal dmg. That being said, balancing both is the key with MP level available.
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post Nov 27 2012, 11:26 AM

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QUOTE(dreaming @ Nov 26 2012, 03:30 PM)
i will contribute 2 IM to test MP10 ubers with you guys  thumbup.gif
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Test? We did it with you yesterday efficiently, all in one go thumbup.gif
Moba said gonna uber party MP10 with us again when he have the IM. Summoning Moba bro tongue.gif

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post Nov 28 2012, 11:00 AM

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QUOTE(MOBAJOBG @ Nov 27 2012, 08:27 PM)
Prepared the IM already and is available for use.
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GGness~! rclxms.gif Can't wait to get into action with you guys, please wait for me~

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post Nov 29 2012, 12:54 PM

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QUOTE(alexhee @ Nov 29 2012, 12:42 PM)
Does reflect damage affect every single monster bounce by weapon throw ricochet? Sometimes the amount reflected is like few thousands but sometimes it can 1 hit ko. I tried switch my gear to lifesteal, it doesn't help much, only ignore pain can keep me alive.
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Ricochet multiple target certainly reflect all dmg done, in fact all kinda dmg done on reflect dmg affix will be reflected back to us. Even those illusions on illusionist affix reflect dmg back too beside the actual unit itself lol. I personally reduce those dmg taken back by using Rend (Blood Lust) and stacking better life replenishment on regen, loh and ls.

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post Nov 29 2012, 02:20 PM

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QUOTE(alexhee @ Nov 29 2012, 01:23 PM)
I'll try rend, but have to get near to the monster. Another question, does reflect damage increase by MP?
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If the situation doesn't favor you to get near bunch of mobs, try using Ancient Spear (Dread Spear - Gain Life equal to 60% of the damage inflicted) which will give decent healing. Once you hooked the particular mob near you, use Rend (Blood Lust) to further enhance healing. That does the trick for me on handling RD affix elite without needing to skip/run around searching for other mobs for life replenishment. Hope it works for you and others too.

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post Nov 29 2012, 02:38 PM

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QUOTE(2890 @ Nov 29 2012, 02:23 PM)
60percent?!!! Man how is BB not OP man.
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tongue.gif Seriously Ancient Spear with Dread rune... hp will be back up to full once I manage to hook any mob accurately. The healing also works on heavy mobs like Colossal Golgor/Demonic Tremor/bosses etc. which is immuned to the Ancient Spear hook (as long as you hit the target accurately anyway).


QUOTE(present me @ Nov 29 2012, 02:24 PM)
no choice even ur barb hav high LOH N LS facing RD sure need kite n throw so ur barb bcome DH lol... tat is wht u get the experience they... as long u barb keep alive...
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Disagree, there's always a choice in build, gameplay and solution in handling elite with certain affixes and situation. With enough life replenishment i.e; life regeneration, life on hit and lifesteal, one doesn't need to do the kiting as per your description.

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post Nov 29 2012, 03:08 PM

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QUOTE(present me @ Nov 29 2012, 02:47 PM)
Bro i was tested so many time... sometime facing RD monster i was keep on throwing just can see my HP dropping... finally i going to ww v normal creep recover back HP fast then continue back to RD monster...
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I respect it if that's your solution on dealing with RD affix. What I'm disagreeing on is that 'kiting' and seeking other mobs for life replenishment cannot the only choice in dealing with RD affix as per your earlier post. Peace~


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QUOTE(alexhee @ Nov 29 2012, 03:07 PM)
Yeah, i acutally using Ancient spear with dread rune as well. Good idea tho, rend + AS. But I've got no idea what skill to replace with rend.
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Share you skill build so we can have some insight and in-depth discussion here?

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post Nov 29 2012, 03:26 PM

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QUOTE(present me @ Nov 29 2012, 03:21 PM)
Nvm bro i just gonna share v u all only wht i was went mp10 came across... in my situation plyer went for mp10 cos i wan more n more experience to solutions possible elite PVE challenge ,somemore some elite hav (share link health ) tat kind monster i wan dizzy very annoying....
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Yes I appreciate what you're sharing and please do continue sharing so we have an active and healthy constructive discussion here in this barb thread. Seriously 'Health-link' and 'Extra Health' affix on MP10 is like hitting a wall for me too whenever the party do not have a decent Monk who will spam Mantra of Conviction for the team. sweat.gif

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post Nov 29 2012, 03:39 PM

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QUOTE(alexhee @ Nov 29 2012, 03:28 PM)
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This is my bnet profile. The only skill i can get rid of is sprint. Gear wise, is there any off hand weapon better than 300 spear?
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I really doubt there's any better off-hand compare to the 300th spear for weapon throw build. The skill bonus is simply too good to be ignore IMO. For freeing up skill slot to have Rend (Blood Lust), I agree Sprint look most likely to be sacrifice-able from your skill build. Cheers and good luck trying Ancient Spear (Dread Spear) + Rend (Blood Lust) combo on dealing with RD in game, please do share your experience here.

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post Dec 4 2012, 04:58 PM

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QUOTE(ALeUNe @ Dec 4 2012, 04:06 PM)
I learn it from cheer83.
Ricgatebecko has real high damage WT.

I'm just entry level barb as compared to these guys. True story.
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Bro Aleune so good yet so humble thumbup.gif
I simply 'throw to troll' some unsuspecting party members who's not aware of range barb build nia lol tongue.gif
No seriously, throw barb is fun to play rclxm9.gif

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post Dec 5 2012, 12:17 AM

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QUOTE(MOBAJOBG @ Dec 4 2012, 05:05 PM)
...still owe you 1IM
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No problem bro, let's do it some other time... but ur using your barb, DH or monk lol
rclxms.gif for having the motivation and putting in effort to play multiple class

QUOTE(qicquser @ Dec 4 2012, 06:19 PM)
to troll unsuspecting party? more like trolling DH and WD who prefer range lol.
still feeling epic about the epic experience with mp10. rclxm9.gif
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Let's not start the comparison again, later they accuse barb of being OP lol
However, agree that our 3 melee men attempt on MP10 without any DH/Wiz/WD's CC was a true epic fight thumbup.gif

QUOTE(ALeUNe @ Dec 4 2012, 07:55 PM)
Yes, it is fun to play.
With your DPS + 300th spear, you can dish out 500-900K damage easily.
You really got a powerful build.  I hope i can achieve the same DPS soon...
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Your estimation are right on spot bro, those are the exact numbers I've seen on screen since Weapon 'Troll'ing tongue.gif Thank you for approving my barb and you humbled me... best regards to your target too notworthy.gif

QUOTE(alexhee @ Dec 4 2012, 08:43 PM)
After days trying in MP 10 with the guide from Ricgatebecko, RD affix monster is a piece of cake, that is without any LoH item and only 2.9 LS.  rclxms.gif
Anyway, thank you for giving me a good advice on Weapon throw barb
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I'm glad and happy what I'm doing works for you too bro alexhee. Hopefully we can hear more barb approving this method/gameplay on dealing with RD affix on all MP.

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post Dec 10 2012, 02:54 PM

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QUOTE(HaRuaN.X @ Dec 10 2012, 09:42 AM)
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is Perma-WoTB easier to maintain with Weapon Throw Barb Build ?

300th Spear Max Weap Throw Bonus = 50% rite ?

notworthy.gif Sry with the question, suddenly thinking about WT barb and in the office so cant check the AH item stats, also read back on WT barb on previous previous previous page, there is a mention of using Mighty Weap on main hand for WT barb, meant for Fury Regen rite ?

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I don't know if it's easier to maintain WOTB on WT comparing with other build, but it's definitely possible to do that in WT barb bro Haruan. Yes 300th Spear Max WT bonus is 50%. You can use Mighty Weapon as main hand to regenerate more fury, but I manage to maintain WOTB without having Fury issue by using EF. Hope it helps... smile.gif

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post Dec 19 2012, 02:31 PM

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QUOTE(Dirtz @ Dec 19 2012, 02:27 PM)
What is EF?
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post Dec 20 2012, 04:16 PM

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QUOTE(HaRuaN.X @ Dec 20 2012, 01:42 PM)
heh...still annoying reading how some player keep comparing (or complaining) things with barbs, dirt cheap gear laa, ww noob skill laa, mighty belt got LS laa & etc...the most champion ones are still "most WW Barb = attitude"..adoiii...but i do know the majority barb in LYN here are pretty frenly & helpful..
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+1 yawn.gif but haters gonna hate right?

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