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Ricgatebecko
post Apr 17 2013, 02:44 PM

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QUOTE(Deckard Cain @ Apr 17 2013, 12:34 PM)
Btw, were you the one that crafted the epic Chest Armor? Was it Vit or Str Archon?
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I'm not sure if my crafted chest is epic but you're right I've been crafting Strength Archon chest for a long time now but still haven't get one which is good enough to replace my IK. Was it this one?
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Ricgatebecko
post Apr 17 2013, 03:08 PM

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QUOTE(cheer83 @ Apr 17 2013, 03:01 PM)
^^High str high vit I think is way  better than usual ik chest , still keeping it ?
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Yeah, kept 3 decent crafted chest as testimony on how close I was to replacing IK lol cry.gif
QUOTE(Deckard Cain @ Apr 17 2013, 03:02 PM)
Yep that's definitely the one and it's still pretty damn good. How many have you crafted so far?
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I got that quite a while ago... but still continue crafting chest ever since. If I was to estimate, I think I've crafted in the range of 500-700 chest thus far and still trying sweat.gif

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post Apr 17 2013, 03:32 PM

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QUOTE(Deckard Cain @ Apr 17 2013, 03:22 PM)
Did u craft few hundreds in 1 go? That's about 105M for 700
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I wished I have the patience to accumulate hundreds of DE before started crafting... but sadly always succumb to eagerness to craft after only having 30-40 DEs (like bro Haruan) sweat.gif I didn't really felt the pain of the cost maybe due to limited 30-40 craft per attempt and having the hope to get one I can use for good blush.gif
Ricgatebecko
post Apr 22 2013, 12:34 PM

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QUOTE(wlcling @ Apr 21 2013, 11:27 PM)
soj with -hota rocks!!
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Ricgatebecko
post Apr 27 2013, 01:14 AM

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QUOTE(HaRuaN.X @ Apr 25 2013, 11:38 PM)
fuuuh..terrorlah you..fuyoooo  notworthy.gif
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QUOTE(lksing78 @ Apr 26 2013, 06:16 PM)
Today i play in pub game and stumble with this visa/master gear barb
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I respect* how he build around this OP shield... inspired me to go back to my root and start picking up Sacred Shield tongue.gif
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Ricgatebecko
post Apr 29 2013, 05:40 PM

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Wow so many posts and healthy discussion here, btw what's the breakpoint to judge whether a barb is "full on" or not? blush.gif
Ricgatebecko
post Apr 29 2013, 06:07 PM

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Everybody please...
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I think we're here because we share the same interest for the game and passionate enough to care hence discuss bout game mechanics, build, gearing etc. Don't need to bring out cannon firing all... let's continue with constructive discussion thumbup.gif

Can I get some feedback on how you guys get LS and how many % is sufficient for life replenishment? Please state whether your barb get LS from mighty belt, passive skill or main/off/2-hand weapon... which MP you're normally running with that amount of LS... and other life replenishment stats you might have. TQ~ rclxms.gif

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post May 2 2013, 02:45 PM

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QUOTE(Deckard Cain @ Apr 29 2013, 06:16 PM)
I only use my MH + Bloodthirst, that's about it. I'm sure you're running the same as you are using TWH right?
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Yes I'll use Bloodthirst too if I'm playing DW + TWH because only my OH have LS (2-3%) which is not comfortable enough life replenishment IMO to facetank + HOTA elite/mobs while taking heavy elemental damage like how one of our forum member 2890 challenged and suggested some of our barbs to attempt. Furthermore, 2-3% LS vs RD is stressful if you're planning to spam HOTA against em

QUOTE(cheer83 @ Apr 29 2013, 06:37 PM)
a lot of high end barb don't use Ik belt and LS passive, for me 1 LS off hand with 2.6 % is enuf already , ik belt is good but u will feel something missing compare to TWH
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There's a way to survive with only 2-3% LS of course, which is to reposition and 'kite' often to safer area or using active/passive defensive skill but personally I don't prefer to play that way because effective damage in game reduced to a substantial amount, much more then the profile DPS one lost from not using TWH.

QUOTE(Deckard Cain @ Apr 29 2013, 06:44 PM)
yeah.. IK belt is memang good especially if got set bonus but lose a lot of DPS from there. I used to use IK set and it's still good but I feel TWH really makes a big difference. I also running the same with 2.6% + passive. Cukup makan. If use IK belt + LS from weapon .. passive got 1 free slot which i think its an advantage in case want to use brawler or something.
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+1 there for Deckard Cain. It's either equipping TWH + Bloodthirst or IK belt + Brawler for me... 5-6% LS definitely the way to go if any of you barb out there wanted to spam HOTA while facetanking RD / multiple elemental Elite. I prefer the latter which is IK + Brawler when I go DW because 30% dmg buff from Brawler is much more beneficial in-game compare to 10-15k dps (varied depending on your gearing) frm using TWH. In addition, IK belt contribute to IK set bonus, additional Fury, specific skill bonus etc.

QUOTE(wlcling @ Apr 29 2013, 06:57 PM)
your barb damn pro la... still need feedback hehe.. anyway i run on just ls on belt... on whatever mp without loh.
for RD sure tough but then rend lifesteal to rescue... the only issue for those who stack ias is that the rend wont be so effective and not enough to cover the RD... so i just dual wield... stack str high, cc, chd and least important is ias
my build now which i feel i cant live without rend bloodlust... passive maybe can take extra 3%ls but i feel mp10 ok so far unless too poisony or too arcanyhttp://d3up.com/b/567970
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Still learning here blush.gif, hence the discussion is much needed. Yes, alternatively use Blood Lust rune on Rend to cover insufficient LS from gear or when you doesn't wanna use Bloodthirst.

QUOTE(Sabenarian @ Apr 29 2013, 07:34 PM)
He is pro and fast Barb biggrin.gif
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Thanks 'budget barb' build sifu notworthy.gif Any new or budget barb here having problem with gearing or limited fund can seek bro Sabe's help. Helpful and proven...

QUOTE(Deckard Cain @ Apr 29 2013, 07:39 PM)
Yep, he's got damn nice setup. Btw, just wondering, some of us memang WOTB kaki larrr so if or when they do nerf it, what build would you be going for? I guess WW not so power di...
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Haha I can think of SnB, WT, WW without WOTB etc. but the most important thing for us are not to be a crybaby if WOTB get any kinda nerf so haters won't get what they wished for biggrin.gif Instead, we should be excited bout possible new or creative build/itemization which give barb alternative playstyle

QUOTE(cheer83 @ Apr 29 2013, 11:58 PM)
FOR THOSE who have problem with skorn especially fury problem , u may try to use passive animosity  rclxms.gif
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+1 Animosity is highly recommended to any Skorn user here who's having fury issue

QUOTE(wlcling @ May 1 2013, 01:46 PM)
hard to say but i guess always prioritize enough life so that you dont die and from there try uprade damage without losing life
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QUOTE(Deckard Cain @ May 1 2013, 02:04 PM)
Priority is survival 1st then DPS next.
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+1 Can't do dmg when you're dead isn't? nod.gif

Ricgatebecko
post May 3 2013, 12:16 PM

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I don't understand the fuss but that's one sweet Mempo there~ wub.gif
Well, marquise and radiant star gem stat diff 4 too but some players maxed it out anyway. What about that? rolleyes.gif

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post May 3 2013, 04:45 PM

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Don't mean to act as 'Reflect Dmg' affix from my earlier post tongue.gif but just a honest reflection on how far players willing to go in order to get that few stats point you guys whining bout... we're not too different after-all isn't. Those marquise are nice of course but they certainly don't come cheap either. Meanwhile, good luck hunting and looting for the weekend guys~thumbup.gif

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post May 3 2013, 05:03 PM

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The good news is everybody got the exact same chance to loot something like that~! rclxm9.gif
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post May 4 2013, 09:18 PM

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QUOTE(Deckard Cain @ May 4 2013, 05:36 PM)
Just now tried Uber with Ric and his friends.. Running with no fury generator memang susah... Maghda impossible without fury generator. Keep losing fury and WOTB at the same time.
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Thanks for coming, didn't notice until you mention that you're trying Uber without any fury generator in-game. Must have been tough with limited mobs during Uber bosses. Btw, one of the party member zhong is cheer83 in this forum.

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post May 9 2013, 02:23 AM

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For once I have fun playing the game again, party with Deckard and Haruan earlier... without AH and looting/discussing/pulling off stunts. Felt like good old days D2 to be honest. Blessing in disguise I guess that AH is so f up at the moment laugh.gif

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post May 10 2013, 12:16 PM

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Skorn with LS flex.gif because:
1) Allow us to use Rend with Ravage rune to increase range within 17 yards, more mobs get Rend(ed) = more LS
2) Free-up Bloodthirst passive for Brawler or any other useful passive skill as per personal preference
3) Can use TWH instead of IK Tribal Binding (LS) to gain +aspd / chd which is both very important stats for Skorn build to be effective (fury management / tornado tick / WOTB / CHD boost will determine whether 1 or 2 Rend needed to kill white trash mobs etc.)
4) Skorn's LS usually 4-6% which is almost / equal / more then IK Tribal Binding's LS + Bloodthirst combined

Conclusion too much pros to give up if you're seeking / using Skorn without LS IMO.
Regarding whether Ruby / Emerald in Skorn, use Ruby to increase Skorn's base dps if you have limited budget because high DPS Skorn with good stats are usually expensive... use Emerald of course the obvious choice if you can afford / found a high base DPS Skorn.
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Yeah bro Haruan, I almost lost it with those endless green bats shit~! I apologize to have led you and Deckard into that trap blush.gif

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post May 13 2013, 12:34 PM

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Why Amethyst in weapon when it's not even life threatening below Inferno? Ruby definitely the way to go to clear fast if gears and chc is not optimized yet. What kinda 'right gear' can 1-2 hit Elite in MP10? I really like to know...

Yeah bro Haruan, not only US best Mempo... worthy of world best too. Apparently Moba looted it and sold it for 500USD, wonder why the owner resell it at GAH for 2b. Lucky new owner rclxms.gif

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post May 13 2013, 12:40 PM

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QUOTE(fe3doe @ May 13 2013, 12:38 PM)
come tonight we do some fast uber..  brows.gif
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ON~! Marathon rounds? hmm.gif

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post May 13 2013, 02:57 PM

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And for that achievement, your "Championship" Wizard are summon to do Uber marathon with Feedoe, faheem and myself tongue.gif
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post May 16 2013, 01:22 AM

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QUOTE(Deckard Cain @ May 15 2013, 08:35 PM)
Ric showed me a damn good sword which someone just posted for 2b so I ended up getting the sword. No regrets.
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Damn good hmm.gif ? It's the No.1 sword in GAH period as per the time of this post tongue.gif ~! Gratz bro, I'm glad and happy one of our friend got it instead of those who do not have intention of using it thumbup.gif . Btw, it's actually better then mine blush.gif

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post May 20 2013, 10:26 AM

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QUOTE(fe3doe @ May 19 2013, 03:48 PM)
Guys... Need your advise to improve my current setup for my barbie.
Armors and jewelries looks okay to me, if anything probably upgrading both weapon... will reap huge DPS upgrade there. Possible to work on crafting for upgrades too... hv fun thumbup.gif

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post May 20 2013, 11:40 PM

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QUOTE(fe3doe @ May 20 2013, 02:37 PM)
this one loot when farming with RIC long time ago.. almost 2 months I guess.
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Yeah I remember that... with tlts and RoG. You ID and linked in game... all I see is GREEN stats blush.gif


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