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ALeUNe
post Oct 18 2012, 11:46 AM

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QUOTE(amiranna @ Oct 18 2012, 11:41 AM)
ok la.. better than 10-15 mins at MP10 lol...
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Amir, you got it wrong. It's 15-35 mins.

Remember we fought the 2nd pack until the 1NV expired? That's already more than 30min.
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post Oct 18 2012, 11:52 AM

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QUOTE(amiranna @ Oct 18 2012, 11:51 AM)
ya.. that damn clone maker  laugh.gif  laugh.gif
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Hahaha... member ckc logged off and came back, we still fought the same elites. laugh.gif
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post Oct 18 2012, 02:48 PM

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QUOTE(HaRuaN.X @ Oct 18 2012, 02:33 PM)
does Higher IAS makes ur WW spin faster ? also does the small tornado (run like wind) hit more offen with higher IAS ?
suddenly wondering about it, if i at home already test it myself...
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Yes, you will have faster spin.
(tested on 1.5 dagger & 1.4 sword).

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post Oct 20 2012, 06:29 AM

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Jubilee!! Finally got my Skull Grasp.
From 50m shot up to 102m in final 5 seconds. Luckily i won the bid. tongue.gif

And my WWT hybrid build is now complete.
Immediately made a run at A3 (and hunt for the key).
Shin joined me in the game.
The weapon throw is working very well now. laugh.gif
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/ALeUNe-6127/hero/8120119

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post Oct 20 2012, 12:08 PM

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QUOTE(present me @ Oct 20 2012, 11:57 AM)
Bro u hunt the skull ring damn nice, as long ur hybrid build work well now....
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Hahaha... I only slept two and half hour.
Woke up at 5:30am to bid this ring.
Glad it turned out well. laugh.gif
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post Oct 20 2012, 03:42 PM

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QUOTE(present me @ Oct 20 2012, 12:14 PM)
Wah.... finally u win bid spend alot energy bro, time to rest bro at nite v hunt the key again.....
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By the way, try the mighty throw rune (169% damage + passive skill 10% damage).
I find this rune is very good.
My fury is full after 3 throws. Very fast fury generation. It's like infinite fury generation.
Very high damage too, avg 140-220K.
(p/s Mighty Throw rune makes me feel like playing Captain America. The flying axe is like the flying shield. Absolutely sexy! laugh.gif )

WWT is getting very interesting. It removes many bottlenecks of WW build.
Love it!!
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post Oct 21 2012, 03:07 AM

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QUOTE(amiranna @ Oct 20 2012, 09:51 PM)
for who want to try weapon throw, i want to sell my old gear below.. offer me ok..  icon_rolleyes.gif
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-7 fury is good enough for WWT build.
For those WW barbs who want try weapon throwing, these are the gears for you.

Wanna be Captain America? laugh.gif
(Use Mighty Weapon rune)
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post Oct 21 2012, 01:20 PM

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QUOTE(lepo @ Oct 21 2012, 10:59 AM)
guys, should i buy Ice climber instead of IK Stride?
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Get IK Stride if you plan to have other IK gears.
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post Oct 21 2012, 06:39 PM

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QUOTE(chchan_89 @ Oct 21 2012, 02:13 PM)
how do regen fury if goin wwt build, since you dont have primary skill to gain fury?
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Just some additional info.

With the nerf in 105, you no longer can do war cry + battle rage.
You will not have enough fury to do that.

First of all, you need -fury gear.
IMO, I'd say -7 fury is the minimum requirement (this is a MUST!).

So, what you need to do in fury generation is.
1) You see monster
2) You war cry
3) Start throwing axes (make sure you hit the target)
4) Fury generation is almost immediate
(Note#1: Provided you have enough crit chance from your existing WW build. Crit chance gives you fury too)
(Note#2: You use the passive skill, No Escape)

Fury generation from weapon throw is way faster than bash/sprint (if you use Migthy Weapon rune).
Very fast attack and high damage.

Comparison of Rune. Just my findings (on my current build)
Mighty weapon. Faster/higher fury generation. For my case, 3 hits to restore my fury to full. Higher damage to a single target. Max damage per target is 240K.
Ricochet. Slower fury generation (but still decent rate). 5-6 hits to restore my fury to full. Lower damage but it can hit 3 targets (i.e. 100K damage x 3). More damage means more LS. Max damage per target is 160K.



Added on October 21, 2012, 6:41 pm
QUOTE(chchan_89 @ Oct 21 2012, 03:01 PM)
what bout loh and ls%?
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If you kiasi like what I am, you can have both LOH & LS.

FYI, I have 2560 LOH + 5.4% LS + 21546 Health globe. tongue.gif
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post Oct 21 2012, 10:09 PM

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QUOTE(chchan_89 @ Oct 21 2012, 10:02 PM)
ive tried WWT, not bad for fury generation.

amirana, if you dont mind, can i borrow ur skul grasp test test the effectivenes?its so hard 2 locate ring with -fury cost. im current running only on -3fury from belt. Didnt know that i hunted a belt tat has tat -fury stats on it lol.

and also, does the 300th spear %dmg stack on both hand? wonder if we can wield both 300spear together?
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I never tried 2x300th spear. No sure whether it can stack or not.
Dual wield is certainly okay. You just lose 10% cc (if you're currently using axe/mace on your MH).
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post Oct 22 2012, 03:30 AM

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QUOTE(vegebotak @ Oct 21 2012, 11:14 PM)
If play WWT , 300th spear is a must , u can try , let say u r dual wield ( without 300th spear will be abt 80k Dps, after using as off hand, throw dmg sure can exceed 110 k abv) ---> it will be more effective if u had Life Steal on ur gear.
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A ring already cost me 102m.
I need to change many gears if i get 300th spear. The cost is way too high.
I do not want to spend such kind of gold.
(If I have tons of gold, I'd have bough IK belt with -5 fury + 3% LS nod.gif )

I keep my existing gears and my DPS at 70k unbuff.
Changed the belt, ring and off-hand weapon. These 3 items already cost me close to 160m. sweat.gif

Weapon throwing is not my main "destructive" skill.
If there are crowd, I go WW most of the time.
Weapon throw has higher damage than bash. Excellent fury generation too.
Very very useful when I am jailed and do ranged attack (i.e. fight with uber boss Kulle).


Added on October 22, 2012, 3:33 am
QUOTE(chchan_89 @ Oct 21 2012, 11:20 PM)
did you guys use it as a main dmg dealer or use it jz to gain fury and hit range mobs?

atm, im using it to gain fury and use whirlwind as dmg source. am i doing it right?

and also not sure if can wield 2 same legend at a same time or not, i tink i recall that some1 mentioned that cant wield 2 same legend, however it can be done by using the legacy + the new legend.

how much AR after do i need to survive say mp5 n abv?
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I'm doing exactly the same.

WT for fury generation and do some ranged attack.
WT has much higher damage than bash. Fast and powerful. It is indeed an awesome replacement.

If there are more than 3 monsters, I go WW all the way.
Killing in bulk is more effective.

I lost AR after switching the gear. I have 541-596 resistance now.
No problem to do MP5.

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post Oct 22 2012, 12:12 PM

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QUOTE(tk1025 @ Oct 22 2012, 12:03 PM)
Guys, please advice me if these stats are able to do WWT build:

40% attack speed (1.83aps)
48.5% crit chance
-5 fury cost on WT
8.5 LS
460 AR unbuffed
5.2k armor
35k HP

Thanks sifu!!
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-5 fury is not good enough (i believe it is your belt).
Try to get a ring.

By the way 35K HP is too low.
I tried 35K with WWT, i died many times, especially when I did WW in a pool of fire/plague/arcane.

What's your DPS by the way?

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post Oct 22 2012, 02:03 PM

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QUOTE(tk1025 @ Oct 22 2012, 01:26 PM)
My dps around 52k, here is my character profile http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/tkwong-1942/hero/2045396

I have a 600++ socketed 300th spear with 50% WT & AS to substitute my offhand but it will cut down the LS to around 5%  ohmy.gif

If sifus can advice me which piece of gear should I change to pump my HP up that would be very much appreciated  rclxms.gif
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You need to get a ring. Minimum -7 fury should do you well (the more the merrier, of course).

You can use the 300th Spear now and see how you do with 5% LS.
If you are able to survive, then upgrading a ring will complete your WWT build.

P/S I love your belt. nod.gif
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post Oct 22 2012, 02:35 PM

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QUOTE(tk1025 @ Oct 22 2012, 02:23 PM)
Thanks a lot!! Will try to find one and try it out, the build looks fun!! rclxm9.gif
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It is absolutely fun.
I regret purchasing many gears & weapons.
But I never regret spending 102m on a ring (the most expensive single-piece gear i ever bought). Not a single bit of it.
A total fun. Very very fun.

When I first played Barb, it was pain-in-the-ass (in inferno A3/A4).
With the so much improved gears + wide availability of gears now, Barb is getting more versatile than ever.
Barb can have various type of builds now.

After playing D3 for so many months, I start to see the D3 development team has good brain.
They are genius!! Real genius!! (yeah, bash me for that tongue.gif )
For me, D3 > D2.

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post Oct 22 2012, 04:02 PM

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QUOTE(amiranna @ Oct 22 2012, 03:34 PM)
ya.. your weapon throw is effective for enemy keep kiting like uber boss Kulle.. rclxms.gif
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We need you to stand in the front line. nod.gif
You know how relief I am when I have you in the front line. True story, bro.

My monk had to keep whacking to sustain life (KOed if i stop hitting). Your barb just rend-revenge and whack like boss.
The best tanker I have seen, tough as nails in MP10.

Slowly upgrade your gear to 60K DPS (or more). And you will be a complete tanker.
I believe your pants, amulet, left ring and MH weapon are replaceable.


Added on October 22, 2012, 4:02 pm
QUOTE(philip42 @ Oct 22 2012, 03:46 PM)
guys why my diablo profile not updated?
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yeah, it's not updated in real time now.
It takes 12-24 hours to have your profile updated.

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post Oct 22 2012, 05:12 PM

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QUOTE(amiranna @ Oct 22 2012, 05:00 PM)
aisey.. malu la.. i just a tank, normal tank only..

but yes, i really like to improve my dps, but with my low amount of gold.. need to do it slowly..

this is one of the best tanker i see with high EHP and high dps..  notworthy.gif

http://www.diabloprogress.com/hero/razhkla...zhklash/1230199
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This one is tough as diamond.
http://eu.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Razhkla...47/hero/1230199


Added on October 23, 2012, 1:09 amCan't afford IK belt.
So, I bought a poor man's IK belt, Lamentation, for 43.99m sweat.gif

Now I have additional 2.9% LS from the belt (Total 8.29% LS)
And 1% higher crit chance (total 51.5% CC)
Lost 64 STR/armor.
Lost 1K+ DPS (from 70700 to 69500).
Lost 6K+ health globe bonus (from 21K to 15K).

But I have much better survivability now.

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post Oct 23 2012, 10:04 AM

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QUOTE(cheer83 @ Oct 23 2012, 09:58 AM)
in this patch ,Ik belt with 5 fury reduction very cheap already , u all can go and search .
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I searched before i made the purchase.

Few pieces with buyout price at few hundred millions.
Few with bid price at 40+m.

To be precise, the search criteria is STR 180/ VIT / AR / LS / Weapon Throw -5 Fury

P/S It is cheaper if it has no VIT.
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post Oct 23 2012, 10:29 AM

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QUOTE(jerrykhor @ Oct 23 2012, 10:22 AM)
ALeUNe almost beat Skeleton King & Magdha single handedly yesterday night. .. with 3 spectators waiting for him to resurrect .. tongue.gif
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No choice. Either they die or I die. laugh.gif
It's 50-50.


Added on October 23, 2012, 10:30 am
QUOTE(amiranna @ Oct 23 2012, 10:25 AM)
happen to us also..facing Skeleton King & Magdha.. all of us died and wait for him.. he manage to revived me before he goes down.. really a hero..  tongue.gif
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Hero went down first. laugh.gif
I still remember the game, agent called me hero when we just start the game and we went Festering Woods.
I went down in the first elite encounter.

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post Oct 24 2012, 04:19 AM

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QUOTE(StratOS @ Oct 24 2012, 01:55 AM)
WoTB using Thrive of Chaos Rune.. Every 25 fury gain deduct 1 sec to the cooldown.. SO everytime u must hit 25 fury it will extend 1 sec WoTB.. His Atk Spd fast enough for him to gain 25 fury almost every sec.. hence his WoTB wont stop..  icon_rolleyes.gif
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This is indeed the case. nod.gif
And he must have pretty high crit chance. With battle range, he gains fury from crit chance.

The damage is mainly from seismic slam.

Another interesting build.

P/S This barb wears Zuni's boots. laugh.gif

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post Oct 25 2012, 02:36 AM

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QUOTE(ChcGamer @ Oct 25 2012, 01:50 AM)
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Which amulet will you guys use for WW build?

I'm currently farming MP2 easily and think of moving to farm MP4. Can't decide which amulet would suit me

This is my profile http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Ngau-1248/hero/20387164

Thanks
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With 100K DPS + full set of IK + few legendary items, you still farm at MP2.
Something must be wrong somewhere.

Come join my game to contribute damage @ MP7 & above. laugh.gif
I tank, you do damage.
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Added on October 25, 2012, 2:36 amObviously none of the amulet is giving more DPS than your current one.

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