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ALeUNe
post Oct 12 2012, 11:13 AM

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QUOTE(ChcGamer @ Oct 12 2012, 10:59 AM)
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Ngau-1248/hero/20387164

Now wearing pure Throw build. With hybrid i will have a little more survivability stats(will replace 3 piece of gears if go hybrid)

Think i need more LS/LoH? Trying to get more AR but its expensive

If pure Throw i have no problem but just probably kill slower which is why i would like to make it hybrid to kill faster for big group of mobs
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Based on your build, you have 400+ LOH & 2.9% LS, I think it is not quite enough.

You only have 244 AR? I think that is too low too.

P/S Try to get another 2%+ LS.

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post Oct 12 2012, 11:31 AM

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QUOTE(ChcGamer @ Oct 12 2012, 11:25 AM)
Tonight i'll go back see what affordable STR/VIT/AR gears i can get to replace

What other piece of gears than belt and weapon has LS?
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I think only the belt and weapon have LS.

You need to replace some gears to improve your AR.
I'm afraid it is unavoidable.

present me has 440 AR. He has high LOH + LS though.
cheer83 has close to 600 AR + 400+ LOH + 5.1% LS.
I played with both and they were doing perfectly well in game.

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post Oct 12 2012, 10:12 PM

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QUOTE(ChcGamer @ Oct 12 2012, 07:38 PM)
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Changed to pure WW build now since i can't afford ring with throw -fury

I can't seem to keep my Berserk on all the time. Anything wrong with my stuffs or just unlucky?
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Err... no one can keep the WotB up all the time.

However, we can try to keep WoTB up as long as it can.
The secret is generate fury as many as you can.
1) Use WoTB/Thrive on Chaos
2) Use mighty weapon on your main-hand (it helps in generating more fury).

(Note#1: For me, it is not necessary to use mighty weapon. Axe/Mace are just fine. Anyway, it is no harm to try mighty weapon if you want to)
(Note#2: hit-able is the sifu of mighty weapn. You can check with him on more first-hand information)

Generally you have got a very good build now. Improved AR and very WW build.
You should not have problem to clear A3.
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post Oct 13 2012, 02:03 AM

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QUOTE(ChcGamer @ Oct 12 2012, 10:30 PM)
There are some super barbarian videos where i can see they keep Berserk for 10 mins and get damn a lot exp in a short time
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The other way of doing it is keep running and keep hitting monsters.
That's the only to keep your WoTB running.

IMO, it is not necessary.
Keep your WoTB for elite fight. Normal white mobs whacking doesn't require WoTB.
In fact, not all elite fight requires WoTB.
WoTB come in handy when you encounter jailer and freezer.

P/S No worries. Monsters will have more HP in patch 105.
That should keep your WoTB up a lot longer. laugh.gif

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post Oct 13 2012, 10:24 AM

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QUOTE(yuhhaur @ Oct 13 2012, 09:16 AM)
In fact I seldom hit the WW button, most of the time i just sprint. Partly because I couldn't stand all the spinning movement shown. I think I had phobia on it
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Beside the "dizzy" movement, you might encounter difficulty to control it.

Put the WW on your right-click of your mouse. It will be a lot easier for you to control and master it.
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post Oct 13 2012, 02:56 PM

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QUOTE(ChcGamer @ Oct 13 2012, 02:39 PM)
Hmm...just read PTR notes

Run like wind getting nerfed badly?
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Yes, it is nerfed but still doable.

It will affect life recovery (via LOH/LS) and fury generation.
This is one of the reasons why I slowly move to WWT hybrid build.
Just another way to get life recovery & fury generation.
I'll throw weapon for life recovery & fury generation if necessary.

(Bad Ah Zhong, see, I am poisoned by your flying axe!)
P/S (Bad vic too, why kept flying axe in front of me?)

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post Oct 13 2012, 04:43 PM

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QUOTE(present me @ Oct 13 2012, 04:38 PM)
Haha... one day u will flying axe in front from hat bcos u will know... can say fast then DH Shoot i in public game always.... lol
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Yeap, I still have not much luck in hunting the ring.

Can't find any -fury ring with STR affix.

Ah Zhong, do you wanna sell your ring? Yours can insert ruby. I like. tongue.gif
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post Oct 13 2012, 06:43 PM

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QUOTE(ChcGamer @ Oct 13 2012, 06:20 PM)
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If you guys got a choice for WW build, which weapon would you prefer for Main Hand? I feel quite a significant improve in DPS when i use Echoing Fury

The reason is i seems to be killing those elites with Extra Health quite slow especialy those Occulist fatties in Act 3 that can cast a shield
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Assuming all gears remain the same except your main hand.
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Ngau-1248/hero/20387164

I'm afraid you may not have enough life recovery if you use Echoing Fury. I think this is the only concern.

Try to use both in game and test it yourself.
You can kite a bit when you life is running low. Echoing Fury can kill fast too.
There is no right or wrong answer. Change some gameplay style and see which one gives you better survivability.
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post Oct 14 2012, 01:33 AM

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QUOTE(ChcGamer @ Oct 13 2012, 06:47 PM)
Tested few rounds and i think i like the more DPS style

Just hope lucky get something to sell so i can afford LoH rings/amulet

Just thinking if i go hybrid i will lose out even more LS/LoH when i change my offhand to 300 spear sad.gif
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It is not a must to use 300th spear.
You can still throw weapon with your existing gears.
You just need -fury gear to have more throws.
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post Oct 15 2012, 12:55 AM

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QUOTE(milky @ Oct 14 2012, 11:15 PM)
but if use Echoing Fury.. u can generate enof FURY ? for ww build
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In patch 104, you should not have problem to generate fury.
The concern is the nerf in tornado in patch 105.

Echoing Fury does not have LOH/LS. That is the concern.
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post Oct 15 2012, 09:07 AM

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QUOTE(milky @ Oct 15 2012, 08:35 AM)
echoing fury does not have LOH/LS but my belt + my off hand can generate enof LS

but not enof of fury..
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What is your primary skill? Bash?
If you use bash, i don't see any reason you do not have enough fury.
Or you expect fury always remain full? That's not going to happen, unfortunately.

If you follow a normal WW build, fury generation is not even a concern.
Try to change your gameplay style.


Added on October 15, 2012, 9:34 amI tried weapon throwing last night... without any -fury gear. tongue.gif
Fury was always depleted but still doable.
Died once... couldn't escape due to run out of fury and killed by an arcane.

I have already got a offhand weapon and a belt.
Just another ring to complete the WWT build.

I was outbid this morning for a skull grasp.
Need to hunt for another skull grasp again.

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post Oct 15 2012, 04:18 PM

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QUOTE(HaRuaN.X @ Oct 15 2012, 04:15 PM)
i...am...slowly..submiting to the WW build..slowly gearing...will put up SS of stats to ask for comments from WW-masters...currently..still the same prob when i wanted to start WW..cant seem to get that fury in check, always running out of it..nvm, once i post it hope to receive some schooling from all the WW master  notworthy.gif

p/s : still board & axe for MF farming gear for coming 1.05 MP4-5, reason i need to change is...i think in 1.05, for MP6 above, WW is quite viable, and fast killing, my current axe sheild build gear can tahan..but damn it takes forever to kill those champs/elites.
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Learn to run first.
Once you master sprint, then you add WW.

I am not sure whether you make the same mistake (like my other friends, Barb with shield), assign WW key on your right-click of your mouse. You will feel a lot easier to control WW.
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post Oct 15 2012, 04:44 PM

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QUOTE(yuhhaur @ Oct 15 2012, 04:36 PM)
I find it better to assign key no 1 as sprint and left mouse to control where to run (a.k.a. bash), WW to key 2 and war cry on rmb (I often ter-click lmb and rmb together)
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IMO, it is not so ideal to assign WW on keyboard.

i.e. You can use WW to kite (i.e. skip from being frozen while your WoTB is not available/cooling down), especially when your HP is running low. You can move the mouse while you are WWing to the direction you want it to be.
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post Oct 17 2012, 11:38 AM

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QUOTE(cheer83 @ Oct 17 2012, 11:23 AM)
anyone playing mp 7 and above ?
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Tried MP10 this morning before leaving for office.
Just did a quick Ghom fight. It took me exactly 15 mins to kill it. sweat.gif
(I used monk though).

I'll do more testings with my other chars later.
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post Oct 17 2012, 12:03 PM

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QUOTE(cheer83 @ Oct 17 2012, 11:57 AM)
gHOM ONLY ? u can try on elite and keywarden later doh.gif
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Yeah, just Ghom. Just wanted to do a quick test.
I will try later when I get home. Still in office now.
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post Oct 17 2012, 01:19 PM

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QUOTE(Penangnitesz @ Oct 17 2012, 01:15 PM)
hi all,

i have not logged in for 1 months now.. can my gear farm act 3 inferno MP 8-10?

No chance to login now due to work.. pls comment biggrin.gif

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Your gears are unfit for Inferno MP8-10.

However, they fit me well. Wanna give them away? tongue.gif
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post Oct 17 2012, 01:23 PM

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QUOTE(Penangnitesz @ Oct 17 2012, 01:21 PM)
sad.gif serious plz bro.. sad.gif else i really no mood to login again haha
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Your gears should be good enough.
Try lower MP if you can't do MP8-10.

You didn't play for a month but you still could achieve LVL51 Paragon level.
I don't want to live on this earth anymore. laugh.gif
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post Oct 17 2012, 01:30 PM

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QUOTE(philip42 @ Oct 17 2012, 01:27 PM)
any1 can help me? what to change for my gears? cant even survive mp 5 , my hp is not healing fast enough
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Give a link to your profile.
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post Oct 17 2012, 04:43 PM

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If you wanna do high MP, MP7-8 seem to be high enough (for our current gear set up).
MP10 is insane.

We had a short gathering of tankers, Amiranna, Shin and I.
It is doable but it's going to take a long time to clear.
It took 15-35 mins to kill a pack of elites (yes, 35min and it means there goes your NV).

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post Oct 18 2012, 02:08 AM

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QUOTE(BboyDora @ Oct 17 2012, 10:54 PM)
Present: why my WW barb seem can't maintain the time of WOTB. And the LoH seem not that efficient anymore.

Did the blizz changed something?
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Nerf on the tornado, lesser ticks, thus lesser life return.

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