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ALeUNe
post Nov 16 2012, 11:57 AM

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QUOTE(MikeX @ Nov 16 2012, 11:53 AM)
So i believe now i should get some gear with Vitality or green gems attached to gears right? Thanks biggrin.gif
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Keep your 3 IK gears (so that you can keep your 60AR + reduce damage).

To make your life easier, perhaps you need to get Blackthorne's chest armor (220VIT + 3 sockets) & pants (2 sockets) to boost up your VIT.
You will lose some armor but I think it's not a big deal.
You'll be doing okay as long as you keep 6K of armor.

P/S You should be able to get at least 300-330 additional VIT from upgrading to Blackthorne's chest armor & pants.
But that's still not enough.
Change the gem on your helm to Amethyst.

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post Nov 16 2012, 01:45 PM

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QUOTE(MikeX @ Nov 16 2012, 12:53 PM)
Thanks bro for the advice. D**n the IK armor i bought for more than 20m gold sad.gif got to sacrifice it....
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If this is the case, keep your IK chest armor, go get Blackthorne's boots + pants.
You still get your 100 VIT bonus.

But I think you still have low HP.

I think your vile ward & strongarm bracer are replaceable too.
Replace them with VIT gears (without sacrificing your STR & CC).


Added on November 16, 2012, 1:51 pm
QUOTE(darks0r4 @ Nov 16 2012, 12:33 PM)
my barb has 30k DPS +35k HP+ 1100 AR(after battlecry) + 33% block + 500 dex+ 700 LOH +500 LR

It takes me forever to clear act 1 mp3. Can any suggest me what should i focus or reduce more.

or i better go farming mp2.
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Looking at your high AR and block rate, are you using shield?
If you do, you may need to check with our forum member, amiranna.
His shield-barb has 100K DPS + very extremely utterly tankable. thumbup.gif


Added on November 16, 2012, 2:05 pm
QUOTE(Tiffa96 @ Nov 16 2012, 01:01 PM)
I only have 400 AR >_<
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Yeap, 400 AR is doable, even in MP9/10.

For my case, it has to combo with overpower/CA.
I got killed (in high mp game) if I replaced it with war cry/impunity.

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post Nov 16 2012, 03:10 PM

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QUOTE(HaRuaN.X @ Nov 16 2012, 02:59 PM)
i wonder what kind of viable skill setup will barb use when pvp out, as for rite now, WW seems useful for farming, grinding mp...

err..barb is the only class that need to generate fury before can spend rite? others class start with full tank, barb with empty tank ?

p/s: with warcry barb can start with 20 ringgit fuel..rasa enough bo?
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Monk needs generation of spirit too (through hitting monsters).


Added on November 16, 2012, 3:11 pm
QUOTE(MikeX @ Nov 16 2012, 02:59 PM)
I tried 2 x one-handed weapon, 1 x set weapon and 1 x rare weapon, DPS dropped 8k compare to two handed Set weapon. sad.gif So therefore i go for 2-handed. If want speed, go for 2 x one-handed weapon would give u faster attack speed.
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Many are using 2-H weapon now (i.e. Skorn).
You just need gears to boost up your IAS.

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post Nov 16 2012, 03:14 PM

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QUOTE(amiranna @ Nov 16 2012, 03:12 PM)
Hi.. I still prefer my shield, i still can use WWT build. Now with 100k dps and 73k hp biggrin.gif
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Awesome build. We need you in the front line when Bliz launches PVP. tongue.gif
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post Nov 16 2012, 04:03 PM

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QUOTE(MikeX @ Nov 16 2012, 03:42 PM)
Yo bro, i completed Inferno last week after this current build alone with MP0. However, I am hardly surviving MP3 and above alone. I wanted to do the Infernal machine/ hellfire ring quest but still long way to go. I have tried Inferno MP0 many times and still unable to get the keys sad.gif

Now have to look for more vitality gears biggrin.gif to boost HP and Armor.
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Looking at your profile, you already have 7.17K armor.
With or without WC, keep it that way.
You don't need to improve your armor.

Just focus on increasing your HP.
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post Nov 16 2012, 04:47 PM

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QUOTE(KiLLing-z2 @ Nov 16 2012, 04:45 PM)
I've been thinking. Is 300th spear a must? Can i replace it with higher dps weapon? That's the question keep appear hmmmm.  hmm.gif
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If you are fresh in building a WT barb, do get 300th spear.
It will give you a lot of damage bonus. It is the best weapon for WT.

For my case, I built a WW Barb.
The switching cost was high if I were to use 300th spear.
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post Nov 16 2012, 04:49 PM

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QUOTE(cheer83 @ Nov 16 2012, 04:46 PM)
U TRY N SEE, WONT REGRET 1, JUST TRY FIND ADDITIONAL  46 % MORE DMG ON WEAPON THROW DAMAGE 1.....
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yes, assuming you are a 100K DPS barb and you get 146K damage (theoretically).
That is a lot of damage you get.

It is not easy to get 46K additional damage from gears.

Bad Ah Zhong, you make me wanna have a 2nd look at the 300th spear.
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post Nov 16 2012, 04:58 PM

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QUOTE(KiLLing-z2 @ Nov 16 2012, 04:52 PM)
Same things happen to me lol. I think i cant switch over to WW bar because my belt & my skull grasp (not showing in the profile bcos im using hellfire nw. just got it ytd  biggrin.gif )

Just wondering is there any other better option other than 300th spear. Skorn is out of the picture for me as i feel lacking of IAS.

http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/kiyawnz...1/hero/27934519 btw u can view my 300th spear there.
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You got good gears. It is a right choice to get 300th spear.

Your HP seems very low. Is that the right number?
If it is, you need to increase your HP.

Good build, generally.




Added on November 16, 2012, 5:00 pm
QUOTE(cheer83 @ Nov 16 2012, 04:53 PM)
MUST KNOW 1 THING, ONCE U USE 300TH SPEAR WT, THE SPEAR WILL HIT 3 ENEMIES , 50K DPS EXTRA ON EACH AND EVERY THROW U GAIN 150K DPS HENCE U ALSO WILL BE BENEFIT FROM LIFE STEAL AS WELL.  notworthy.gif  notworthy.gif
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Bad poison...

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post Nov 16 2012, 05:04 PM

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QUOTE(KiLLing-z2 @ Nov 16 2012, 05:03 PM)
Yup that's right the hp. I've been finding ways to pump my hp since a while LOL
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By the way, how much you got your 300th spear? PM me if you don't wanna disclose it on the forum.


Added on November 16, 2012, 5:04 pm
QUOTE(cheer83 @ Nov 16 2012, 05:03 PM)
CHANGE ALL THE gem
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Zhong, do you still keep your spear? Can I have it for a test run? laugh.gif

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post Nov 16 2012, 05:07 PM

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QUOTE(KiLLing-z2 @ Nov 16 2012, 05:06 PM)
It's okay can disclose here. I got it for like 8m or 10m if I'm not mistaken. Need to re-check the price again once i reach back later from work.
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Good one... I go check tonight.
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post Nov 16 2012, 05:18 PM

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QUOTE(cheer83 @ Nov 16 2012, 05:09 PM)
SOLD MINE LAST 2 WKS, SOLD AT 68 MIL, WITH 1014 DPS, 47% WT,+socket ,  300TH SPEAR...
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QUOTE(KiLLing-z2 @ Nov 16 2012, 05:13 PM)
I got 1 spare if you would like to have a run with it. but it's only 850 dps & no socket.
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Thanks. I'll go check at AH tonight.

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post Nov 16 2012, 06:41 PM

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QUOTE(Ricgatebecko @ Nov 16 2012, 06:34 PM)
Same here~! Being a 1H + Shield barb since Inferno might have drain my interest and the amount of 'fun' I have in game. I can't do WW, DW or 2H effectively so I've picked up a 300th spear and decided to give full throw barb a try and I must urge any of fellow barb to at least give Weapon Throw / Ancient Spear a try, it's FUN!  rclxm9.gif 
That being said this is how I build my "Throw Barb", basically once warcry and battle rage (into the fray) is up, start throwing stuff and use ancient spear (dread spear) to heal or regain fury (in case ran out of fury). If being swarmed or situation where you need to kite, keep Rending to keep hp up. Rend also can be use once u hook a mob to you with Ancient Spear, useful to keep your hp healthy for at least 5 secs. Item wise, 300th spear and any armor with reduce fury cost for Weapon Throw is highly recommended but not compulsory.
My Weapon Throw build
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Monstrous build you got there.
A pure weapon throw build. Nice one.

I remember your shield-barb was top-ranked too.
I can see there are diversified builds for Barb. It's fun to play.
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post Nov 23 2012, 12:49 PM

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QUOTE(tygoh @ Nov 23 2012, 08:20 AM)
Insane gears.
Top end Mempo, Vile Ward, Lacuni, Witching Hour, quadfecta amulet & rings, perfect roll of IK gloves & chest, godly weapons...


Added on November 23, 2012, 1:20 pm
QUOTE(AdamNg @ Nov 22 2012, 09:21 PM)
That's why I play Barb with No MP. As for farming for better gear, gold and higher MP, I choose DH  rclxms.gif
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For me, high MP like MP9/10, I'd say DH is not quite good.
It is tough when you do solo and fight with 4 fire-walking soul rippers + arcane + desecreator.

For low MP farming, DH is very effective.

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post Nov 28 2012, 12:10 PM

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QUOTE(metalfreak @ Nov 28 2012, 10:10 AM)
Hi all,

some might know that I was from the wizard class...found quite alot of barb items and decided to roll a barb.
I'm at level 45 now.... Sifus...when we reach level 60, may I know what are the normal skills used? I mean..macam Wizard, most of them are CM style...

Thanks!
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Assuming your Wiz is a CM build.
No worries, if you play barb, you don't need to spam your keyboard as rapid as CM-build Wiz. laugh.gif
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post Nov 29 2012, 10:15 AM

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QUOTE(metalfreak @ Nov 28 2012, 02:26 PM)
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Yeap...CM Wiz. Without this build, I have no idea how to control the elites LOL. Unless Blizzard buffs Wiz tongue.gif
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Hahaha... then you can master WW Barb because it is less complicated than CM build Wiz.
(I mean less spamming of keys laugh.gif ).
Happy WW-ing.
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post Nov 29 2012, 11:51 AM

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QUOTE(MikeX @ Nov 29 2012, 11:43 AM)
Hi all, i just upgraded some gears again yesterday. Now on 130dps.. any other gear i should change?

My profile here:
http://eu.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Mike-6141/hero/1530829
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Good build now with high HP.

I find you have low AR, CC and life recovery (through LS/LOH).
How do you find your survivability?
If you can survive, i think your build is sufficient.

Lastly, as you use skorn, I think it is better you use the skill rend.
Besides, you may need to replace some passive skills, i.e. berserker rage (it's not quite good as I doubt you can keep maximum fury when you fight with elites).

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QUOTE(MikeX @ Nov 29 2012, 11:55 AM)
Yes... yesterday i tried using REND skill.. better blood sucking and kill Elite faster than WW. smile.gif For surviving MP1 & 2 no issues... but i dont think can go MP3... need to try smile.gif
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Looking at your DPS/Armor/HP, you should be able to do MP7/MP8.

What's stopping you from doing high MP could be low AR and life recovery.
So, you may need to improve these.

P/S Try replacing some of your passive skills.
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post Nov 29 2012, 01:34 PM

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QUOTE(alexhee @ Nov 29 2012, 01:23 PM)
I'll try rend, but have to get near to the monster. Another question, does reflect damage increase by MP?
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Generally you do not stack enough LOH/LS/Life regen.

On the other hand, if you have enough LOH/LS/Life regen, you have higher life return when you hit 3 targets.


Added on November 29, 2012, 1:37 pm
QUOTE(manzelina @ Nov 29 2012, 12:24 PM)
Hi all mighty barb..
Add me as ur friend.. so we can play together-gether.. Not so many friend on my list..
Usually play with amiranna.. but now sudah mau muntah already. at office see his face..
at diablo also see him aaa? aiiyooooo
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Let's be honest. Do you guys play co-op game during working hours? tongue.gif

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post Nov 30 2012, 01:35 AM

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QUOTE(alexhee @ Nov 29 2012, 03:07 PM)
Any of you using cold damage Jordan Ring? Does it worth the price? I'm currently using poison JR. I heard cold damage can slow down the creep gao gao?
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You have got a very power barb there.

Just to answer your question, for me, SOJ/Cold damage is meant for comboing with echoing fury.
You know fear on hit could be quite annoying at times.
When the monsters run, it will result most of our hits hitting air when we do WWing (and hence shorter WoTB, to some extent).
So, SOJ/Cold damage would come in handy in slowing down the movement of monsters when you sprint/tornado & whirlwinding.

You can search the similar discussion at BNet.

It just happened that you got an echoing fury (one of the top echoing fury?).
Are you going to WWing? Or build a WWT hybrid?
If yes, SOJ/Cold damage is a sweet sweet thing to have.
If you're not going to WWing, i think you just stick to your poison SoJ.


Added on November 30, 2012, 1:35 am
QUOTE(IIIaZer @ Nov 29 2012, 10:42 PM)
tested HoTA yesterday.... quite nice to play with... it seems can generate life and fury when crit.  but when using on a RD affix mob .. feel i die damn fast.     Any one can advice?
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Life recovery (LOH/LS) & health globes.


Added on November 30, 2012, 1:37 am
QUOTE(alexhee @ Nov 29 2012, 03:51 PM)
I have been farming mp 7 for the past 3 months with my housemates. Just recently I go mp 10 and try to solo with my new gears, before this I was using WW barb and I don't have any problem with RD at all but I really tired with it so I switched to WT few days ago. 
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You could have built a WWT hybrid.
With your DPS, you're certainly one of the most powerful barbs here.

Just a note, I find you have rather low LS/LOH. I think this is the reason why you have issues with damage reflection. Higher the DPS you have, more damage you get in return.


Added on November 30, 2012, 1:49 am
QUOTE(manzelina @ Nov 29 2012, 01:39 PM)
No la.. Boss will ketuk kepala if we play working hours tongue.gif
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No problem, next time wear helmet when you and amir play co-op in the office. tongue.gif

Please give me your battletag so that we can go walk walk. laugh.gif

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QUOTE(manzelina @ Nov 30 2012, 10:52 AM)
No need to give my battletag to u la Aleune.. im already in ur friend list
I am Agent47 loorrrr  cool2.gif
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Hahaha... yeah, now I got it.
I still remember your naked run she-barb. laugh.gif
We must play more.

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