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Barbarian Discussion v2, Share your builds, opinions, guides
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manzelina
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Nov 29 2012, 01:39 PM
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QUOTE(yuhhaur @ Nov 29 2012, 01:33 PM) all barb syok meh? I can't imagine 4 barb all spin will what happen. Add me I monk. Surely syiookk.. hahaha.. and i'm not WW barb.. just Normal Barb. Added on November 29, 2012, 1:43 pmQUOTE(ALeUNe @ Nov 29 2012, 01:34 PM) Generally you do not stack enough LOH/LS/Life regen. On the other hand, if you have enough LOH/LS/Life regen, you have higher life return when you hit 3 targets. Added on November 29, 2012, 1:37 pmLet's be honest. Do you guys play co-op game during working hours?  No la.. Boss will ketuk kepala if we play working hours This post has been edited by manzelina: Nov 29 2012, 01:43 PM
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present me
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Nov 29 2012, 01:46 PM
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QUOTE(alexhee @ Nov 29 2012, 02:23 PM) does reflect damage increase by MP? I can say yes bro I always went to mp10 hunt key ,sometime facing RD elite... tat is my problem they i was take alot experience for this type RD... my barb keep on survive n solution. U dont focus tat kind RD elite atk.... when u get reflect damage hurt u need to kite n throw some other normal creep first to recover HP then go back to tat kind RD elite.... tat the way u can keep alive for barb.. just gd try for it..
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MikeX
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Nov 29 2012, 01:46 PM
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QUOTE(ALeUNe @ Nov 29 2012, 01:34 PM) Generally you do not stack enough LOH/LS/Life regen. On the other hand, if you have enough LOH/LS/Life regen, you have higher life return when you hit 3 targets. Added on November 29, 2012, 1:37 pmLet's be honest. Do you guys play co-op game during working hours?  My desktop in office is using intel HD graphic. Cannot play lor... but i wish the AH can have mobile version so we can monitor good things from time to time.
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SUS2890
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Nov 29 2012, 01:49 PM
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QUOTE(MikeX @ Nov 29 2012, 01:46 PM) My desktop in office is using intel HD graphic. Cannot play lor... but i wish the AH can have mobile version so we can monitor good things from time to time.  me too. i just got outbidded again cuz i was reading LYN forums. Sial la, forget use stop watch. Added on November 29, 2012, 1:51 pmQUOTE(alexhee @ Nov 29 2012, 01:23 PM) I'll try rend, but have to get near to the monster. Another question, does reflect damage increase by MP? If you are talking per shot instance then no Reflect is dependent on the damage you do per hit/shot. If you are talking over a period of time then yes cuz of the increase in HP of mobs. This post has been edited by 2890: Nov 29 2012, 01:51 PM
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alexhee
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Nov 29 2012, 02:12 PM
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QUOTE(present me @ Nov 29 2012, 01:46 PM) I can say yes bro I always went to mp10 hunt key ,sometime facing RD elite... tat is my problem they i was take alot experience for this type RD... my barb keep on survive n solution. U dont focus tat kind RD elite atk.... when u get reflect damage hurt u need to kite n throw some other normal creep first to recover HP then go back to tat kind RD elite.... tat the way u can keep alive for barb.. just gd try for it.. That's exactly what I did, hit and run and wait for ignore pain cd... damn those RD monster, have to skip all RD monster in mp 10... The thing is, my housemates as WD and DH, they can stand still and hit QUOTE(2890 @ Nov 29 2012, 01:49 PM) If you are talking per shot instance then no Reflect is dependent on the damage you do per hit/shot. If you are talking over a period of time then yes cuz of the increase in HP of mobs. Ok, thanks for the info.
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Ricgatebecko
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Nov 29 2012, 02:20 PM
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QUOTE(alexhee @ Nov 29 2012, 01:23 PM) I'll try rend, but have to get near to the monster. Another question, does reflect damage increase by MP? If the situation doesn't favor you to get near bunch of mobs, try using Ancient Spear (Dread Spear - Gain Life equal to 60% of the damage inflicted) which will give decent healing. Once you hooked the particular mob near you, use Rend (Blood Lust) to further enhance healing. That does the trick for me on handling RD affix elite without needing to skip/run around searching for other mobs for life replenishment. Hope it works for you and others too.
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SUS2890
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Nov 29 2012, 02:23 PM
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QUOTE(Ricgatebecko @ Nov 29 2012, 02:20 PM) If the situation doesn't favor you to get near bunch of mobs, try using Ancient Spear (Dread Spear - Gain Life equal to 60% of the damage inflicted) which will give decent healing. Once you hooked the particular mob near you, use Rend (Blood Lust) to further enhance healing. That does the trick for me on handling RD affix elite without needing to skip/run around searching for other mobs for life replenishment. Hope it works for you and others too. 60percent?!!! Man how is BB not OP man.
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Nov 29 2012, 02:24 PM
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QUOTE(alexhee @ Nov 29 2012, 03:12 PM) That's exactly what I did, hit and run and wait for ignore pain cd... damn those RD monster, have to skip all RD monster in mp 10... The thing is, my housemates as WD and DH, they can stand still and hit Ok, thanks for the info. no choice even ur barb hav high LOH N LS facing RD sure need kite n throw so ur barb bcome DH lol... tat is wht u get the experience they... as long u barb keep alive...
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Ricgatebecko
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Nov 29 2012, 02:38 PM
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QUOTE(2890 @ Nov 29 2012, 02:23 PM) 60percent?!!! Man how is BB not OP man.  Seriously Ancient Spear with Dread rune... hp will be back up to full once I manage to hook any mob accurately. The healing also works on heavy mobs like Colossal Golgor/Demonic Tremor/bosses etc. which is immuned to the Ancient Spear hook (as long as you hit the target accurately anyway). QUOTE(present me @ Nov 29 2012, 02:24 PM) no choice even ur barb hav high LOH N LS facing RD sure need kite n throw so ur barb bcome DH lol... tat is wht u get the experience they... as long u barb keep alive... Disagree, there's always a choice in build, gameplay and solution in handling elite with certain affixes and situation. With enough life replenishment i.e; life regeneration, life on hit and lifesteal, one doesn't need to do the kiting as per your description. This post has been edited by Ricgatebecko: Nov 29 2012, 02:40 PM
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Nov 29 2012, 02:47 PM
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QUOTE(Ricgatebecko @ Nov 29 2012, 03:38 PM)  Seriously Ancient Spear with Dread rune... hp will be back up to full once I manage to hook any mob accurately. The healing also works on heavy mobs like Colossal Golgor/Demonic Tremor/bosses etc. which is immuned to the Ancient Spear hook (as long as you hit the target accurately anyway). Disagree, there's always a choice in build, gameplay and solution in handling elite with certain affixes and situation. With enough life replenishment i.e; life regeneration, life on hit and lifesteal, one doesn't need to do the kiting as per your description. Bro i was tested so many time... sometime facing RD monster i was keep on throwing just can see my HP dropping... finally i going to ww v normal creep recover back HP fast then continue back to RD monster... at this moment i from mp 10 ...
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alexhee
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Nov 29 2012, 03:07 PM
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QUOTE(Ricgatebecko @ Nov 29 2012, 02:20 PM) If the situation doesn't favor you to get near bunch of mobs, try using Ancient Spear (Dread Spear - Gain Life equal to 60% of the damage inflicted) which will give decent healing. Once you hooked the particular mob near you, use Rend (Blood Lust) to further enhance healing. That does the trick for me on handling RD affix elite without needing to skip/run around searching for other mobs for life replenishment. Hope it works for you and others too. Yeah, i acutally using Ancient spear with dread rune as well. Good idea tho, rend + AS. But I've got no idea what skill to replace with rend. QUOTE(present me @ Nov 29 2012, 02:24 PM) no choice even ur barb hav high LOH N LS facing RD sure need kite n throw so ur barb bcome DH lol... tat is wht u get the experience they... as long u barb keep alive... Exactly... The only LS i had is on my belt.. lol Any of you using cold damage Jordan Ring? Does it worth the price? I'm currently using poison JR. I heard cold damage can slow down the creep gao gao?
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Ricgatebecko
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Nov 29 2012, 03:08 PM
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QUOTE(present me @ Nov 29 2012, 02:47 PM) Bro i was tested so many time... sometime facing RD monster i was keep on throwing just can see my HP dropping... finally i going to ww v normal creep recover back HP fast then continue back to RD monster... I respect it if that's your solution on dealing with RD affix. What I'm disagreeing on is that 'kiting' and seeking other mobs for life replenishment cannot the only choice in dealing with RD affix as per your earlier post. Peace~ Added on November 29, 2012, 3:11 pmQUOTE(alexhee @ Nov 29 2012, 03:07 PM) Yeah, i acutally using Ancient spear with dread rune as well. Good idea tho, rend + AS. But I've got no idea what skill to replace with rend. Share you skill build so we can have some insight and in-depth discussion here? This post has been edited by Ricgatebecko: Nov 29 2012, 03:17 PM
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present me
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Nov 29 2012, 03:21 PM
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QUOTE(Ricgatebecko @ Nov 29 2012, 04:08 PM) I respect it if that's your solution on dealing with RD affix What I'm disagreeing on is that 'kiting' and seeking other mobs for life replenishment is not the 'only' choice in dealing with RD affix as per your earlier post. Peace~ Nvm bro i just gonna share v u all only wht i was went mp10 came across... in my situation plyer went for mp10 cos i wan more n more experience to solutions possible elite PVE challenge ,somemore some elite hav (share link health ) tat kind monster i wan dizzy very annoying....
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Ricgatebecko
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Nov 29 2012, 03:26 PM
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QUOTE(present me @ Nov 29 2012, 03:21 PM) Nvm bro i just gonna share v u all only wht i was went mp10 came across... in my situation plyer went for mp10 cos i wan more n more experience to solutions possible elite PVE challenge ,somemore some elite hav (share link health ) tat kind monster i wan dizzy very annoying.... Yes I appreciate what you're sharing and please do continue sharing so we have an active and healthy constructive discussion here in this barb thread. Seriously 'Health-link' and 'Extra Health' affix on MP10 is like hitting a wall for me too whenever the party do not have a decent Monk who will spam Mantra of Conviction for the team.
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alexhee
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Nov 29 2012, 03:28 PM
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QUOTE(Ricgatebecko @ Nov 29 2012, 03:08 PM) I respect it if that's your solution on dealing with RD affix. What I'm disagreeing on is that 'kiting' and seeking other mobs for life replenishment cannot the only choice in dealing with RD affix as per your earlier post. Peace~ Added on November 29, 2012, 3:11 pmShare you skill build so we can have some insight and in-depth discussion here? Battlenet profileThis is my bnet profile. The only skill i can get rid of is sprint. Gear wise, is there any off hand weapon better than 300 spear?
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SUS2890
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Nov 29 2012, 03:38 PM
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QUOTE(alexhee @ Nov 29 2012, 03:28 PM) Battlenet profileThis is my bnet profile. The only skill i can get rid of is sprint. Gear wise, is there any off hand weapon better than 300 spear? This is why i have always felt barbs are for kids/noobs. no offense man but at paragon level 100, i expect you to know how RD works and how your char works. but if i have misunderstood you, please do clarify This post has been edited by 2890: Nov 29 2012, 03:40 PM
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Ricgatebecko
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Nov 29 2012, 03:39 PM
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QUOTE(alexhee @ Nov 29 2012, 03:28 PM) Battlenet profileThis is my bnet profile. The only skill i can get rid of is sprint. Gear wise, is there any off hand weapon better than 300 spear? I really doubt there's any better off-hand compare to the 300th spear for weapon throw build. The skill bonus is simply too good to be ignore IMO. For freeing up skill slot to have Rend (Blood Lust), I agree Sprint look most likely to be sacrifice-able from your skill build. Cheers and good luck trying Ancient Spear (Dread Spear) + Rend (Blood Lust) combo on dealing with RD in game, please do share your experience here. This post has been edited by Ricgatebecko: Nov 29 2012, 03:41 PM
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MikeX
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Nov 29 2012, 03:42 PM
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QUOTE(2890 @ Nov 29 2012, 03:38 PM) This is why i have always felt barbs are for kids/noobs. no offense man but at paragon level 100, i expect you to know how RD works and how your char works. but if i have misunderstood you, please do clarify bro.. the old uncle here also blur with the gears and upgrades...  Thanks to you and all assist to advise me!! Appreciate lots!!
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SUS2890
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Nov 29 2012, 03:44 PM
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QUOTE(MikeX @ Nov 29 2012, 03:42 PM) bro.. the old uncle here also blur with the gears and upgrades...  Thanks to you and all assist to advise me!! Appreciate lots!! eh, when u online? wanna return ur gold, i have enough gold. Didn't use yours..
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Nov 29 2012, 03:50 PM
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Any of you using cold damage Jordan Ring? Does it worth the price? I'm currently using poison JR. I heard cold damage can slow down the creep gao gao? [/quote] I hav a fren also finding cold damage weapon or SOJ ring as u say slow the creep, for my suggest Throw already slow enemy 60% so u no need to find cold damage tat..
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