In 2004 when we first entered the area, many friends and family members look down on KD, leasehold, strata blah blah.Tat time Persiaran still under construction. Mutiara dusty like desert.

But we saw, Ikano, Ikea, Curve, 1U, MNCs throwing tons of money next door. We saw exit to NKVE, penchala link. We saw golf course.

Put it this way, even if freehold condo does it make much different? Freehold/leasehold if purpose for rental your tenants care? Anything above 30yrs irrespective freehold/leasehold will need major retrofit/upgrading.

TG nothing to shout abt compares other condos. Only selling point is MRT. Mat salleh/expats will love mrt. Tat's how ppl in developed nations travel.

Fuel price expected to rise aft ge13. Hopefully in turn there will be less cars on the road. But proton annual sales target to sell 500k in the near future. Would there be less cars on the road?

So many condos around. So what's the selling point? You choose.

Seasonal property investors will understand, the more unique selling points the property have, the higher values it will be...please name me high end condos in KL, beside the prime land near KLCC...what else do they have?

I've been walking in their sales gallery for 1st and 2nd day...I've seen investors all the way from Ipoh, Johor, Singapore, Japan, England, Australia...they do bought 1 unit and some bought 2 units.

Please process yourself why these peoples bought this property instead, where they can choose alternative in KL City Centre lifestyle?

at last we have some similar point of views...another +1 for you

At the end of the day, perception is very critical to the success of anything, even more so property.

Companies spend billions and millions on marketing, and the reason why is obviously clear. EFFECTIVE marketing is very useful, and sustaining that view is even more so...

The township and TG are very well perceived, and like you said, yes, overseas investors are coming as well. It is the talk of the town.

I think TG will do good.

Sunway sure eye red red now lah.....they sure beh tahan and will launch their new nexis more expensive than TG phase 2, also they have upcoming development in where their sales gallery sitting now, that one will be more expensive than new nexis launch.

So, TG1 RM750psf <TG2 RM1100-1200psf <new nexis launch RM1200-1300psf <TG3 RM1300-1400psf <new sunway project RM1500psf <TG4 RM1500-1600psf

So, upon completion, it will be RM1800-2000 psf.

If you want to make money, go in before TG phase 4 launch. There is a potential 80-100% gain.

Very simple reason. The overall package of TG.

These buyers very smart.

Usually, only a very small group of people can make money, they take risk, they see what others cant see. When they buy, people talk bad, when they make money, people red eye. When TG3 launch, then they all say TG1 and 2 buyers very happy.

and we still see the strand struggling still to clear their resi units. kekeke.

WHo told u they havent bought anywhere else? U assume they only invested in 1??

To be a smart investor, u have to spread the risks. Many of these ppl have a few properties located in a variety of areas.So if 1 area doesnt do well, they have the others as backup. Even i have 4 condo's now. 2 in a prime area and 2 more purchased last Dec in an upcoming area. Why didnt i just focus on investing in a prime area? Because there is more room for appreciation in non prime areas as long as the entry price is low. But if the entry price in non prime areas is high then its not really a good choice and the risks are not worth taking. Investing at high prices in a highly volotile area like MK, KLCC, etc is dangerous. Many ppl just focus on the positives without considering the nagative possiblities.

Even now im looking to invest in my 5th property but im being very careful. Although i can afford to pay 1500 psf but for me i think its very dangerous especially since all the indicators are pointing towards a softning of the market in 2015.

Soft in 2015 then rebound in 2016 ma.....its when all TG phases completed.....1800psf subsale "Ding Gor Look Jer" lah.....

Hehe... +1 to you bro

Yalar...there are some people unable to get a piece of the cheese and says eating cheese is bad for health...hehe

Another +1 for you...we must sit down one day and share properties point of view

Ya lar they all red eye mah. When TG3 launch they will say the same thing to TG3 buyers. Then TG4 launch they will say the same thing. They keep repeating themselves because they don't dare to take risk, but if make money they red eye and bad mouth la.

These people will never make money one. Even market crash they also won't go in one. These people sit at the sideline forever and watch people make money only.

NO RISK NO GAIN...just as NIKE slogan said "JUST DO IT"

LOLL..sit at the sideline..it very depends on individual affordability actually,anyway this is a forum to discuss and share each other's opinions. Those have strong financial ability definitely more risk taker as if one or two of the investment fail,they still have others to cover or yield.For those who have just limited strength,of course they will be very careful in investing..Anyway,i believe from forum,like myself,many others have learnt and benefited alot.

Rebounds are dependant on how bad the drop is in the first place. Also depends on how the overall economy of the country is at that time. But most importantly is investors must have the holding power cuz if they dont and they start throwing prices just to off load their properties, then ull get a dinamo effect of falling prices.

Do you think the buyers for phase 2 bought 700k studio have no holding power? You are underestimated them. Anyway...its Domino Effect...not Dinamo Effect...

Since you talking about economic of downfall...and you holding 5 properties should start selling all now...don't wait wor...otherwise you not burn...its roasted.

Never make money?

Some of the ppl who are against TG on this thread are actually seasoned investors whom i know personally and some actually have about 7-8 properties in other areas which have actually appreciated quite a bit. Im quite sure they aren't red eye or anything. One of my own condo's has appreciated 80% in the past 3 years and this appreciation is confirmed by the bank's valuators not by some salesman given u rosy figures.

Speaking of evaluation...since now Phase 2 response so good...do you think the banks don't want to make profits?

Fast-fast sell all your properties la...don't keep la...later economic downturn your skin will fell off...or become roasted

This post has been edited by Ero-Sennin: Mar 11 2013, 02:15 PM