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Singapore REITS, S-REITS
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Feb 25 2017, 08:49 AM
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QUOTE(kart @ Feb 25 2017, 07:59 AM) I want to ask about the fee of using DBS Vickers Cash Upfront Account. 1) Fee is FOC1). What is the fee to open the DBS Vickers Cash Upfront Account? 2) After I open the trading account, if I did not use the trading account to buy or sell shares, will there be any charges, such as monthly admin fee? 3) Are there any other fees I should know, such as Goods & Services Tax (GST) imposed by Singapore Government at 7%? http://www.dbs.com.sg/vickers/en/pricing/f...ble_en_04122014 Based on the website, I can only see commission Charge of 0.28% (for online transactions), clearing fee (CDP imposed) of 0.0325%, and SGX Trading Fee of 0.0075%. Thank you for the information. 2) No. Unless you buy foreign listed share on ASK, HKSE, LSE, NYSE, etc. No fees for SGX shares 3) Cash upfront (CU) non promo SGD18/0.18% whichever is higher/transaction CU promo SGD10/0.12% whichever is higher/transaction + SGD5 rebate per transaction (promo is valid until end of june) Fees - SGX fees - Clearing fees - GST (0% as we are foreigners) Keep in mind that once you use DBS V CU to buy, you will need to use DBS Vickers Cash account to sell thus incurring SGD25/0.25% whichever is higher/transaction. You cannot use DBS V CU to sell. That's why aiming for SCB when I am qualified. Transfer everything to them without incurring any fees (SCB will abosrb the transfer fees). Will use DBS V CU until promo is over then switch over to Maybank KE Prefunded as Maybank KE Prefunded let you sell at SGD10 (promo rate) Btw gark according to DBS V, I don't have any broker assigned to me as my account is an online account. Haiz... This post has been edited by Ramjade: Feb 25 2017, 08:53 AM |
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Feb 25 2017, 08:59 AM
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i) do you have any broker assigned to you? ii) so how about the selling part? |
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QUOTE(elea88 @ Feb 25 2017, 08:59 AM) Ramjade, Maybank KE will charge you SGD10.70/transfer best if can get SCB as transfer in is free but they closed their doors. i also thinking change to MKE. i calculated in 2016 alone i sell 20 times .. wah.. that is a saving of SGD 300.00. Keep in mind selling limit is valid for 3 days only. Of course they can assign you the limit based on how much you transact with cash upfront. But I feel DBS V is very troublesome. This post has been edited by Ramjade: Feb 25 2017, 09:05 AM |
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[quote=Ramjade,Feb 25 2017, 09:03 AM] Maybank KE will charge you SGD10.70/transfer. [/quote u mean transfer in shares to MAYBANK KE? [/quote] elea88Yes. The above is for KE Prefunded account. See my reply above. Just edited. This post has been edited by Ramjade: Feb 25 2017, 09:11 AM |
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Feb 25 2017, 01:40 PM
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QUOTE(elea88 @ Feb 25 2017, 11:13 AM) To apply from here need to sahkan with commisioner of oath. QUOTE(elea88 @ Feb 25 2017, 11:54 AM) https://www.interactivebrokers.com.hk/en/in...php?f=1338&ns=T Too hard. USD10/month.was recommended this by friend.. hv u heard? Lower cost than MKE. all markets. |
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QUOTE(kart @ Feb 25 2017, 02:39 PM) Ramjade and elea88, thank you for your informative advices. Form my point of view,As advocated by Master gark, it seems that the general consensus is to use a nominee trading account (such as Maybank KE and SCB) to keep SGX shares, rather than using a CDP account. I guess that most of you all think the lower brokerage cost far outweighs the risk of not having the ownership of the shares under your name. I had no choice that time when opening account. To have SG bank account must have DBS Vickers or else they won't entertain your request to open account. The way I see it the advantage of having CDP account 1) Able to attend AGM and makan besar 2) ABle to vote during AGM 3) Share is in your name Keep in mind that 1) and 2) need you to travel to SG. For people like me who is unable to travel frequnetly, no point having CDP account. One thing I have learned through reading ETF investing, keep your cost as low as possible as every saving is practically extra bullets for you to buy. |
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QUOTE(gark @ Feb 25 2017, 10:58 PM) Just engage a professional trustee to help manage your inheritance. You can ask them to liquidate all your accounts and assets after departure and divide accordingly. Or they can manage for you to continue distribute income and/or until your dependence reach certain age or years so they dont squander the wealth . They will work you to establish your exact requirements. Any recommendation?Of course this service is not free but one time payment for peace of mind. |
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QUOTE(gark @ Feb 25 2017, 11:37 PM) Got many, depend on your budget. You can check further at the retirement forum. I am looking at options. A sifu told me to always plan even though you are young. Save, research, invest, plan in case you Btw, do you think you are too young to consider estate planning? This post has been edited by Ramjade: Feb 25 2017, 11:47 PM |
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QUOTE(kart @ Feb 26 2017, 10:01 AM) Sorry for not understanding your statement. Sell and put where? Bring back RM? I don't think so. Worse come to worse, HK REITS (tax free), ASX (yield more or less same with SG after tax)For the case of Maybank Kim Eng Trade Prefunded Account, will the dividend be credited into this KE Trade Prefunded Account, and then we need to manually transfer the dividend, to our Singapore saving account? Assuming that MAS does not extend the tax-free period beyond March 2020, do you all plan to sell your SGX shares and S-REIT units latest on February 2020, since withholding tax will naturally reduce our yield? This post has been edited by Ramjade: Feb 26 2017, 10:11 AM |
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QUOTE(kart @ Feb 26 2017, 10:27 AM) I agree with you that Point 1 and 2 are irrelevant to us here. My concern with Point 3 is based on the link you shared with me earlier. Well for Sifu Hansel, he perfer shares to be CDP because he wants to attend their AGM. For me, I don't really care about the AGM as long as the counter is performing, don't really want to look at it.In other words, if our shares are in CDP account, the stockbroker cannot misuse our shares to save them. Then again, as Master gark said that Maybank Kim Eng is a very established and reputable brokerage house, probably I am worried too much. ___ Assuming that I have a DBS Vickers Cash Upfront Account, and also a Maybank Kim Eng Trade Prefunded Account. At first, I buy some share through DBS Vickers, and the shares are in my CDP account. Is it possible to sell the shares through Maybank Kim Eng, a few weeks later? No. If buy via DBS V CU, you cannot sell through Maybank KE Trade Prefunded Account. You will have to have Maybank KE Cash account, link it to CDP then you can only sell using Cash account incurring SGD25/0.25% commission. |
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QUOTE(gark @ Feb 26 2017, 06:18 PM) Most reit gives dividend 2 to 4 times per year. Timing will not matter if you plan to hold long term. If you want dividend, you must hold the share before until exdate. Ex date is the day they pay you or (eg most reits pay on 28/2) or is it the day they announced how much are they going to pay us?I mostly buy whenever there is value and hunt mostly after ex dividend. QUOTE(kart @ Feb 26 2017, 05:31 PM) Thanks, gark. Keep in mind that if you filled up and post over, you will need commsioner of oath to verify everything. Better to apply when you are down in Singapore. Less hassle. Alright, I shall follow your advice to open Maybank Kim Eng Trade Prefunded Account. _____ QUOTE(gark @ Feb 26 2017, 06:18 PM) Most reit gives dividend 2 to 4 times per year. Timing will not matter if you plan to hold long term. If you want dividend, you must hold the share before until exdate. Ex date is the day they pay you or (eg most reits pay on 28/2) or is it the day they announced how much are they going to pay us?I mostly buy whenever there is value and hunt mostly after ex dividend. QUOTE(Hansel @ Feb 26 2017, 03:13 PM) Well,... I discovered that attending AGMs has unveiled information and matters that an investor can't get by just reading materials. This is my experience. A very good eg is something I heard when I attended the Parkway LIfe AGM last year,... sometimes, reading too much just clogs the mind up, and blurs us from some impt information to help us make decisions. I would like to attend however I need to be rationalBro Gark - well,... it's very hard to persuade Stanchart to let you us attend AGMs. My Private Bank - yes, and that also is I am holding a certain large number of shares. Don't abt the rest of the nominee accounts though,... (i) Can I take leave from work? (ii) Will I get back and don't feel tired and ready to start work the next day? Hence for me, attending is NOT IMPORTANT unless you are already establish and can take leave anytime you want. Is it worth getting fired from work just to attend the AGM? This post has been edited by Ramjade: Feb 26 2017, 06:56 PM |
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QUOTE(gark @ Feb 26 2017, 07:01 PM) Announcement date - date divvy is announced - Nevermind - found my answer -Ex date - date divvy is distributed ( share no longer have divvy) Payment date - date divvy is paid to your accounts That is the basic of dividend dates. If you buy before ex date and keep until ex date - you are entitled to dividend. If you sell before exdate, you dont get divvy. If you buy on exdate or after that, you dont get divvy. This post has been edited by Ramjade: Feb 26 2017, 07:05 PM |
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QUOTE(Hansel @ Feb 26 2017, 07:24 PM) Yes bro,... agreed with your approach above. Stabilize yrself in yr career first,... then only start to focus more in investments... That's why for now read forum, blog, reports. That's the next best thing one can do. Btw, please check your PM. PM you awhile back.This post has been edited by Ramjade: Feb 26 2017, 07:35 PM |
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QUOTE(prince_mk @ Feb 26 2017, 09:35 PM) I agreed with Sifu Hansel's suggestion. You might risking your career too. I bet you career in medical line is going to be fully occupied. Can always queue in the night or in the morning what. Not sure u can find time to check the hp during the day time as for me, I still can have time to check and place order too during office hour. QUOTE(prince_mk @ Feb 26 2017, 09:57 PM) Sifu, I am just hoping the US rates does not have much impact on SG rates. However SG import their interest rate from US You are my idol and I m tailgating you closely. From nothing in Dec 2016 to have quite a big sum in Sg reits, I think this is a great achievement. I m not smart but I m willing to learn and do some simple research. Hope to bear more fruits in future. |
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QUOTE(prophetjul @ Feb 27 2017, 08:35 AM) Ram, if you don't mind can you summarise opening the Vickers trading account through DBS or POSB accounts? I apply in person at MBFC. Yes. you can apply via POSB/DBS.My bank wants to charge me USD50 monthly for accounts less than USD200k! https://internet-banking.dbs.com.sg/ibAPL/C...ount_stp_ib_btn https://www.posb.com.sg/personal/investment.../vickers-online I am going to move to Maybank KE (not qualified for SCB) as I find that DBS V is troublesome (I am using cash upfront account). Reasons: (i) If you want to sell, you need to email/call them for approval of limit. By the time they approve your application via email, the price could drop. (ii) When you sell, you can't use cash upfront account but you need to use cash account which will incur charges of SGD25/0.25% (whichever is higher) vs cash upfront at SGD18/0.18% (whichever is higher) QUOTE(prophetjul @ Feb 27 2017, 08:56 AM) I think this is for Priority customer? Yes? If you can qualifty for Priority service, better suggestion would be SCB SG. SCB SG is still accepting priority customer. No brokerage fees (min fees) and custodian fees for priority customer (you only pay clearing fees, . Best part is according to prince_mk, all your stocks holding are counted so you don't need to buy anything from them. However it's not under CDP and hard to attend AGM.This post has been edited by Ramjade: Feb 27 2017, 09:20 AM |
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Surprisingly to buy Manulife US REITS from SG using USD is hard.
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QUOTE(prince_mk @ Feb 28 2017, 07:48 PM) I bought via Stanchart and all I need to do was bank in Sgd to my eSavers acc. then transfer to my USD settlement acc. let than 5 seconds, you may roll your ball. You can pay using SGD but why bother paying the bank extra money? Maybe you are not sure how to use the DBSV. Can check with our sifu Elea. I believe she is going to invest in ASX / HK market soon. Or perhaps our sifu Gark. I have already found a cheap way to bypass DBS MCA/other banks foreign currency notes charges (need large amount of USD for it to be effective. If use small amount of USD, better to deposit via counter and pay them the fees) Elea pay in SGD. Sifu Gark does not hold Manulife US. |
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