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Ramjade
post Feb 28 2017, 09:36 PM

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QUOTE(prince_mk @ Feb 28 2017, 09:13 PM)
we cannot compare to Sifu Hansel. He is big player.

as for a start, I think you better use SGD. If you deposited foreign currencies other than SGD, you got to pay additional too. Up to you.

what if you bought at higher price when using USD tongue.gif and also another rule of thumb, we can be always winning to the max at all times tongue.gif
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Yes. Deposit in USD will incur charges. But there is a way around it. Found it on SG forums. You only pay SGD10/transaction regardless of how much USD you deposit. So if you deposit USD1M, you still pay SGD10. That's the beauty of it.

But to get the USD into trading account, is another problem. Drawing local USD cheque and depositing is FOC (source SG forums). That time when DBS gave a notice about the deposit charges for foreign notes deposit, Singaporean come out with this trick to move USD between banks FOC without the need to withdraw.

You cannot always win. But if you are investing for long term, I believe entry price won't be much of an issue.
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post Mar 1 2017, 08:13 AM

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QUOTE(Showtime747 @ Mar 1 2017, 07:02 AM)
If entry price is not an issue, then transaction cost lagi no issue  biggrin.gif

Lately this thread concentrated more on how to save costs which broker is cheaper etc....

Discussion on which counter to buy, which counter to avoid have been lacking...

Guys, any changes to your portfolio lately ? Anything you bought and/or sold ?

For me, I wanted to add, but just waiting a little longer because I see prices may adjust soon...
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For me of course if possible want best price. But if cannot get best price? JUst queue slightly lower than market price.
I bought only 2 of each and did not focus 100% in SG. Left 4 more counters to buy then I start averaging down the price. (use dividend gathered to buy in small amount)

Going the proxy reit manager route by getting Fraser Logistic and Manulife US (with no holding tax since is not listed on ASX/US)

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post Mar 1 2017, 09:53 AM

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QUOTE(elea88 @ Mar 1 2017, 09:21 AM)
Save cost is there is why not...? A dollar save is a dollar earn.
waiting to add FRASER COMM .

and add whatever that hv huge negative... i find investing in SG REITS very simple.

Div for Feb all in liao.. My strategy is add those coming dividends...

since next div sometime April. so, will purchase within this month.
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Care to share why you say is easy? Would like your option.

Lucky you. No dividend for me. sad.gif cry.gif Guess must be because I bought after ex date sad.gif

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QUOTE(elea88 @ Mar 1 2017, 10:21 AM)
i find it easy.. Go choose those reits.. 4x div.

Share price drop just continue collect.. cos worst case scenario still hv div to collect.

I started off in 2013 with simple mindset. I actually dispose one of my stressfull property with tenant moving in and out .. and put the cash into REITS.

Reits hv a PORTFOLIO of properties.. At any one time.. not all the property will be empty. maybe tenancy drop. So instead 8% still got 5% to collect.
But then again SABANA REIT is a lesson to learn.... with the super high div yield... the share price drop so severely. if continue to buy when price drop is also not a solution.

So, for me.. every day or alternate day hv to come check out here.... for latest news . And also keep eyes & ears open.

From Singapore , i hv diversified to Indonesia.. then Japan with Croesus & Accordia Golf..then Europe with IREIT.. then China then USA and many more to follow.

Wah.. its a nice feeling having a bit of PROPERTY all over the world.. haha.

And big thank you to GARK who actually teach me how to open DBS ACCOUNT & SGX ac way back in 2013..
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Hope to follow in your footsteps sifu notworthy.gif

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QUOTE(elea88 @ Mar 1 2017, 10:49 AM)
aiyo dun follow me.. i blurr investor.
I pakai tembak only...

i have 30 counters all still in Capital gain except
M1 & NERATEL. (non reit)
thats why i still think investing long term REIT might be safer.
u can use this website i find helpful

www.sgxcafe.com

key in the shares u hv bought and the date.. and u click dividend.. it will tell u your COLLECTED DIV.. AND coming dividends... also auto calculate for you your returns per annum from dividend.
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Wow 30 counters. blink.gif shocking.gif Sell off Neratel.
http://mysweetretirement.com/neratel-an-abandoned-child/

Not worth keeping already.

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post Mar 1 2017, 06:06 PM

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QUOTE(Hansel @ Mar 1 2017, 10:51 AM)
Showtime,... yr posting here is a great consolation for me,... tq,...

Had a bad day today,...  vmad.gif broker, private banking summore,.. bloody well queued late for me,.. had to buy a stock at 2.2% higher,.... vmad.gif  vmad.gif  vmad.gif

But yeah,.. from yr posting above, since we are long term, then will make back the money lar,...
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Complained to the bank la. Sure broker kena fired. whistling.gif
Ramjade
post Mar 4 2017, 03:20 PM

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QUOTE(elea88 @ Mar 4 2017, 02:59 PM)
NikkoAM-StraitsTrading Asia ex Japan REIT ETF IPO!

A short summary on this NikkoAM-StraitsTrading Asia ex Japan REIT ETF.

Annual Distribution = 5%
Listing Date: Mar 29, 2017
Manager: Nikko Asset Management Asia Ltd
Trustee: HSBC Instituitional Trust Services (Singapore) Ltd
SGX Trading Name: NikkoAM-STC Asia REIT
NikkoAM-StraitsTrading Asia ex Japan REIT ETF IPO Prospectus
Investment Objective: To replicate as closely as possible, before expenses, the performance of the FTSE EPRA/
NAREIT Asia ex Japan Net Total Return REIT Index.
Initial Offering Period: Mar 6, 2017 to Mar 21, 2017

big portion also invest in Singapore... why ar?
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Because SG have the highest returns for REITS if you compare with the developed world. First we have Philip, then we have this.

Not recommended to buy REIT ETF as there is tax. The articles are old but still relevant.
http://dollarsandsense.sg/what-you-need-to...nvesting-in-it/
http://fifthperson.com/should-you-invest-i...ed-to-consider/

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post Mar 6 2017, 09:34 PM

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QUOTE(elea88 @ Mar 6 2017, 09:08 PM)
thanks for sharing. Now i am concern...

i hv Viva since 2014.
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His view not bad considering he is not working, depending on dividends + seminar + books. I kiasi so don't dare take risk blush.gif

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post Mar 7 2017, 10:30 AM

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If I am investing for long term, does entering price really makes a difference? Cause if I wait on the sidelines with cash, I might be missing out on the dividends. I can always average down

If I plunge in straight, at least I am assured of the dividends but could be lower cause the price is high.

Please advise. Kind of in a dilemma notworthy.gif

Counters that I will be looking at:
- MGCC
- Croesus
- Topping up AIM
- Fraser Logistic
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post Mar 7 2017, 11:05 AM

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So if I want MGCC, Croesus and Fraser Logistic, better I wait?
Before this just buy cause don't want to waste dividend collection.

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post Mar 7 2017, 11:53 AM

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elea88, I remembered that you are complaining that SG BA are not giving interest. Something of a con to Malaysians, you may want to consider parking your money in Cimb Fast which give you 1% then transfer it to whatever brokerage you use to buy when the need arise.

1% is better than 0.05% and there's no min amount amount for fall below fees biggrin.gif rclxms.gif
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post Mar 7 2017, 12:56 PM

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QUOTE(simonhtz @ Mar 7 2017, 12:51 PM)
Cimb SG, right? That's a good one.
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Yup. As long as got any SG bank, can open Cimb SG already. Transfer using FAST (free and instant) thumbup.gif
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post Mar 7 2017, 01:13 PM

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QUOTE(bearbear @ Mar 7 2017, 12:58 PM)
the 1% no t&c?

I have an acc with them for instrant transfer to CIMB Msia. Back then it was 0.8% but t&c was that you need to have $100 increment every month on your balance
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1% if you have min SGD1k. There's a limit of up to SGD50k.
0.8% must be for star savers. This is cimb fast saver.
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QUOTE(prophetjul @ Mar 7 2017, 01:45 PM)
You mean if I have existing SG bank account, I can open another with CIMB SG?  No problem?
Then I close my other account which is charging me USD50 per month.
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That's right. Application is online. No need to visit branch. All you need is any SG bank account.
CIMB FastSaver details
CIMB FastTsaver FAQs


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QUOTE(prophetjul @ Mar 7 2017, 01:57 PM)
WoW!

That is helpful!

Thanks

After that, what trading portal does CIMB has to access the global trades?
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Don't use their trading portal. Not worth if you are using custodian account. There's maintenance fees involve.

It can also TT money back to Malaysia instantly and free. Something to rival DBS.

You might be interested in their CIMB Foreign Currency Current Account too as only need to maintain min 1000 unit of FCY (one of the cheapest). Again no charge for incoming TT in FCY. rclxms.gif rclxm9.gif But I have no idea how to move USD around in SG. hmm.gif

If use Cheque, it's free.

My strategy:
- Broker : Maybank KE Prefunded + Multi Currency ePay
- Bank: Cimb, Maybank, DBS (DBS will try to convert to cheap account, no point having MCA with them as they are useless now)
- Parking : Cimb
- Incoming TT : Cimb ( zero for incoming TT save SGD10-20/incoming remittance)
- Outgoing TT : Transferwise

Only problem, no idea how to move USD from Cimb to Maybank. sad.gif

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QUOTE(prophetjul @ Mar 7 2017, 02:09 PM)
I need a trading portal connected to the bank.

My bank is also charging me custodian fees for shares held presently.
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For SGX:
Best choice: SCB (lowest brokerage fees)
2nd best choice: Maybank Kim Eng Prefunded, DBS V Prefunded if you want to attend AGM.

For Foreign shares:
Best choice: SCB (totally zero custodian fees)
2nd best choice Maybank Kim Eng/DBS V (they will waive the charge based on combination of Singapore & foreign market transactions:
(a) 2 x transactions per month
(b) 6 x transactions per quarter


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QUOTE(elea88 @ Mar 7 2017, 02:53 PM)
oh thanks RAMJADE... u are right.. i got idle $$$ sitting in SG may as well earn the 1%...
let me analyse further.
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No problem. Keep in mind the SGD50k limit.
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QUOTE(elea88 @ Mar 7 2017, 03:00 PM)
Paperwork for those holding MANULIFE US REIT.

pls remember to submit W8 & Currency Election Form back to MANULIFE US office. (for those direct CDP).

also, apparently one time submission of W8 is only valid for 3 yrs. after that have to re-submit again.
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What's the dead line? You choose to receive in USD or SGD?
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QUOTE(Showtime747 @ Mar 7 2017, 05:05 PM)
For your target counters, list down the previous years ex date (not payment date). They will likely declare dividend on the same month every year (but not necessarily)

Then you know your deadline to buy in order to enjoy the next dividend

Some pay twice a year, some 4 times a year.

For non-reits counter, some 1 time per year.

I think the next reit dividend seasons is still 2 months away. So you have plenty of time. And knowing you, you can leave in your fund in your bank to enjoy interest  biggrin.gif
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Cannot say like that. Learnt from sifu elea88 must keep caah ready bruce.gif flex.gif

In the meantime can park in Cimb SG earning 1%. tongue.gif
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post Mar 7 2017, 06:52 PM

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For those who are interested in Nikko REITS ETF

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