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post Apr 5 2017, 11:20 AM

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QUOTE(Vector88 @ Apr 5 2017, 11:11 AM)
The platform I am using, itrade@CIMB, is charging SGD 10 per dividend / per stock. So if a REIT is paying 4 times dividend per year, it cost SGD 40 per annum to "maintain" that particular REIT... So far it is quite reasonable/acceptable to me, as I usually don't hold more than 5 reits at any point in time... so cost to me is SGD 200 per year, ie: around RM 600 per year... (actually it is about RM300-400 per year for since some reits that I hold like Croesus, Keppel DC, are paying 2 times dividend per year)
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Glad i open trading account at SG.. everything FOC.. rclxms.gif
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post Apr 5 2017, 11:54 AM

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QUOTE(elea88 @ Apr 5 2017, 11:23 AM)
MY mke open successfully. Gark u got buy US shares for div?
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Not directly only ETF.. US shares dividend kena 30% tax.. sweat.gif

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post Apr 5 2017, 12:26 PM

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Apr 5 2017, 12:19 PM)
Can.
That's why I am not sure want to go the AU route or HK route. AU 30% tax. HK 0% tax. Gark, elea88, Leslie told me to use margin for Reits. Told me prefunded not suitable  doh.gif  ranting.gif rolleyes.gif
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Using margin, you can get much higher yields, but at higher risks.

There are people advocating using margin for reits, the calculation works out very nicely. drool.gif

But I too chicken to try. laugh.gif

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post Apr 5 2017, 12:37 PM

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Apr 5 2017, 12:33 PM)
Me no money and heart for margin  tongue.gif Some more 3.16x our currency. No joke with margins.  shakehead.gif
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About 3-4 years ago, I wanted to mortgage my property, take loan and dump into Malaysia Reits. It is a form of margin also...

At last minute, decided against it.

If I have done it, my gains will be huge today (from extra dividend and capital gains)..equivalent to getting a FOC property.. blush.gif
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post Apr 5 2017, 12:42 PM

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Apr 5 2017, 12:39 PM)
Actually taking personal loan from SG bank and dump into reits ok or not? After all SG loans are almost 0% interest. Got this idea from lippo. Took loan from SG, went and buy property in Indon due to very low interest in SG vs indon.
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You not in SG, who want to loan to you... no collateral some more. tongue.gif

MKE margin interest is about 2% only...

But hor every kind of loan also got risk one..ok understand it. smile.gif

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post Apr 5 2017, 01:07 PM

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Apr 5 2017, 01:00 PM)
From what I read about lippo, they took loans from SG to buy indon property.
Reason cited:lower interest rate in SG vs Indon bank
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SG if loan with collateral, ie housing/corporate loan is about 2-3% only.. they not using personal loan lah. doh.gif

Compared that to indon corporate loan is now 9%.. whistling.gif

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post Apr 5 2017, 02:26 PM

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QUOTE(Hansel @ Apr 5 2017, 02:23 PM)
Bro,... I'm not very agreeable to the above,... if you had taken your SGDs earlier (which were loaned amts) and converted into the RM to buy MREITs, today, you would be suffering from :-

1) exchange rate loss if you were to convert back to the SGD.
2) MREITs' yields are low today, causing the prices to dip lower, adjusting themselves.

Don't forget you have to continue servicing the property mortgage in SG.

But if you have taken a loan to buy SREITs back then, then you will not have forex risk. This may still be doable.
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That time was Malaysia property, and Malaysia REITs.. got offer for 4.2% interest and that time MY reits are yielding 6-8%...

Taking loan in another currency compared to investment currency is potential receipt for disaster.. sweat.gif

Now cannot de, MY reits already compressed too much.. sweat.gif
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post Apr 5 2017, 10:00 PM

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Apr 5 2017, 09:54 PM)
From what I know, affin bank, maybank have 6 months 0% balance transfer plan.
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Soooo difficult.. just open margin account only lar tongue.gif
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post Apr 7 2017, 01:44 AM

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Hopefully reits will start to reverse gear, bank of india did a surprise tightening of the repo market sending short term rates up. Thailand says might do the same soon.

Fed minutes show that, they are not just raising interest rate, but they want to start selling their 4.5 trillion of bonds they are holding. This will affect bond prices more than rate increase.

Germany is having a spat with ECB on the stimulus, germany wants to reduce the ECB stimulus as soon as possible.

Cream on the crop will be if SGD monetary policy appreaciate higher. smile.gif
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post Apr 7 2017, 04:10 PM

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QUOTE(kyone @ Apr 7 2017, 03:28 PM)
http://www.theedgemarkets.com.sg/article/s...nager-voted-out

Sabana REIT EGM to be held on April 28; REIT may be in default if manager voted out
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That one is to scare you small holders only.. already got ready sponsor to take over wat. tongue.gif

E-shang redwood, held by KKR and Tong jinquan just bought in 5%+12%.. they are very experienced reit managers, so no need to worry. The are the managers for Creosus, Cambridge, I-reit before they sold it off, and a few others ...

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post Apr 10 2017, 02:05 PM

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Apr 10 2017, 01:40 PM)
I will wait. Aims next year sure free fall. 20% lease expiring.
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Got 2 new BTS building lor.. never consider that? tongue.gif
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post Apr 10 2017, 02:23 PM

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Apr 10 2017, 02:09 PM)
Still market can act irrational considering it's is 20% whistling.gif
When will the 2 BTS be ready?
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One this year (30-32 tuas west, TOP achieved in Dc 2016, expected completed in Jan-Feb2017) - master lease CWT, should start contributing soon.

End 2017 (8&10 tuas ave 20) - Redevelopment, multi tenant

2018 (Marsiling Lane) - New BTS to Beyonics for 5+5 years masterlease.

New property (which cost already input) = higher income in future rclxms.gif

And the 20%.. it is expire only mah. They still have plenty of time to find new tenants. tongue.gif

For example, 12% of their masterlease to be expired in 2017 (20 Gul way), they already found tenant for it and successfully leased out.

I say the management is doing a fantastic job..Also this REIT mostly build their own building, no buying overpriced property from sponsor. icon_rolleyes.gif

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post Apr 10 2017, 02:39 PM

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Apr 10 2017, 02:37 PM)
So wise to wait or buy now?  hmm.gif Cause still oversupply right? Oversupply means cannot charge higher rent, tenant can choose other place with cheaper rents.
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BTS and masterlease on long term.. yes there are risk, but it also depend on the management. tongue.gif

I cannot tell the future if they can or cannot rent out their properties.. laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
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post Apr 11 2017, 03:38 PM

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QUOTE(bearbear @ Apr 11 2017, 03:31 PM)
Frasers Commercial Trust suddenly pick up, got news?

Croesus also beyond reach now, 0.925
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All the reit also go crazy liao.. dry.gif
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post Apr 11 2017, 04:13 PM

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QUOTE(cherroy @ Apr 11 2017, 04:10 PM)
As long as it doesn't go as "crazy" as Mreit, I viewed some are still in "acceptable" region, just not as attractive only.

May be wait for May month, see whether got phenomena "sell in May, go away."
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Ya lor.. M reit kenot pakai already..

Sreit.. not attractive.. but still 'investable' tongue.gif
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post Apr 13 2017, 11:00 AM

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Apr 12 2017, 06:08 PM)
Soilbuild REIT 1Q DPU falls 4.4% to 1.489 cents
http://www.theedgemarkets.com.sg/article/s...s-44-1489-cents

Will aims fall also because of this?  hmm.gif
Kasi chance please  cry.gif
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Soilbuild already expected la... loyang way security deposit habis liao.. whistling.gif

Aim .. so far no bad news yet.. I expect them to at least maintain DPU.. laugh.gif

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post Apr 13 2017, 11:03 AM

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QUOTE(elea88 @ Apr 12 2017, 10:32 PM)
https://www.reitsweek.com/2017/04/standard-...bbb-rating.html
rating reaffirm.. if nothing to add.. then just add AIMS.!!! still at 8%...
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Rating reaffirm means the rating house see minimal disruption in the rental... unlike Sabana last time, langsung downgrade even before they report a disaster results.

Rating house got do their homework yo.. rclxms.gif

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The rating reflects S&P’s confidence in steady cash flows, stable occupancy rates, and a well- staggered lease expiry profile, said AIMS AMP Capital Industrial REIT in an announcement on 12 April.


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post Apr 13 2017, 02:42 PM

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QUOTE(prophetjul @ Apr 13 2017, 02:05 PM)
0.01489 if priced in Loyang, annualized at stock price of 68 cents is 8.76%. Not so bad?
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As long as no more new rental problems.. tongue.gif

Soilbuild have 3 more OnG rental props..

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post Aug 16 2017, 09:54 AM

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Bought EC Reit at 78 cents.. E-commerce > retail devil.gif

Nothing much to but now a days.. bored. yawn.gif

Havent added any to the portfolio.. since a few months ago..

except Singtel at 3.75 before the dividend issue..

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post Aug 16 2017, 05:49 PM

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QUOTE(elea88 @ Aug 16 2017, 11:27 AM)
welcome back GARK!!!! pergi mana?
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Haha no where.. busy with work.. sad.gif

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