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post Aug 28 2015, 03:32 PM

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QUOTE(prophetjul @ Aug 28 2015, 02:56 PM)
i bought on on the down turn........but hoping that it goes down another 5%
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OKay, then you would have made something already since the price would have come up by now compared to your earlier price bought at downturn. YOu were expecting the price to dip further so that you can average down your price further, and then profit more. biggrin.gif biggrin.gif

Count your blessings that you bought on the way down. Otherwise, if you have waited for it to dip further before making the first purchase, you may not be able to catch any units before the rebound.
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post Aug 28 2015, 04:50 PM

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Again,.. looking at hindsight is always the perfect vision. So,.. don't look back at what's already happened. There will always be another chance.

What I have experienced back in 2007/8 was I need to have the targeted REIT bounce up and down a few times, before I gather the courage the load-up more when it was down, knowing that it will bounce up again, and will never fall all the way into liquidation.

This is the valuable part of 'having been there'.
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post Aug 28 2015, 04:51 PM

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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Aug 28 2015, 04:43 PM)
u can never buy enough when low and good, but very easy to buy too much when high and no good, right?

hehe... we hv all been there. laugh.gif
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You need more observation with your targeted counters to build the confidence !
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post Aug 28 2015, 05:08 PM

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[QUOTE(Showtime747 @ Aug 28 2015, 04:40 PM)

Same here. Failed to buy more when it was down. Now up already, feel very sayang why I didn't buy more cry.gif

quote=elea88,Aug 28 2015, 04:53 PM]
because when it is down.. TAKUT mah...
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That's right - when it is down, we start asking ourselves : is there something wrong with this counter ? But do have another little tinkle in the back of your mind, being : a falling tide will lower all boats, and a rising tide will raise all boats, be they good or bad boats.

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post Aug 28 2015, 05:10 PM

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QUOTE(prophetjul @ Aug 28 2015, 04:54 PM)
That's the reason i focused on the potential yields, instead of looking at the bounce!    laugh.gif
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If you are able to recognise the bounces, you will make a higher yield, collect more DPU at lower prices and increase your margin-of-safety in the counters that you hold.

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post Aug 28 2015, 05:17 PM

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QUOTE(prophetjul @ Aug 28 2015, 05:12 PM)
Thats the reason we have to average in. we wont catch the bottom.
So instead of being emotional, better set the yardstick on the numbers
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OKay,.. right, if you can't recognise the bounces, in other words, yes, you can't catch the bottom. Fair enough. So..., we all should not be disappointed then with our performance, and feel that we have lost an opportunity for another 5% dip, or even that we have lost an opportunity to load-up the truck.

LIke I said earlier,... there will always be another chance. The coming opportunity will even be better,... it is a never-ending cycle. IT is just a matter of when.
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post Aug 28 2015, 05:45 PM

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'u can never buy enough when low and good, but very easy to buy too much when high and no good, right?'

I believed, for REITs which are fundamentally sound and with growing dividends, it is still okay to buy if it is high and 'no good',...

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QUOTE(Showtime747 @ Aug 28 2015, 05:42 PM)
We are know the theory, but when come to the real buying and selling, very difficult to put into practice  tongue.gif
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Showtime,... you and the other guys in this recent conversation has put the practice exactly in its place !!!!!!!! rclxms.gif rclxms.gif rclxms.gif

Wait for another chance, and use the practice again !!
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post Aug 28 2015, 05:58 PM

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QUOTE(Showtime747 @ Aug 28 2015, 05:51 PM)
I can tell you when another chance come by, I will still takut  tongue.gif
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'Takut' is the very essence that gives birth to carefulness, the desire to execute the very best of due diligence before plunging into any instrumnt and that creates the best condition for a high probability of success. thumbup.gif

'Takut' is a great quality in an investor, though some do not display it.
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post Aug 28 2015, 06:01 PM

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' yr chance to takut may come on monday. laugh.gif '

In the above situation, one can always buy puts, or inverses or contras. We can always use such market emotions to our advantage.

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post Aug 28 2015, 06:04 PM

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' dun forget to check us markets tonite. tongue.gif '

Talking about the above, I have a question : how do we catch-up with our sleep,.. huh ? Daytime, play the warrants, night-time, play North American puts or shorts or perhaps merely observing the mkt in preparation for the next mkt day on Monday. I find it pretty taxing. Any opinions please ?
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post Aug 28 2015, 06:43 PM

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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Aug 28 2015, 06:38 PM)
find a 11-7 job or work from home. tongue.gif
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So no way to get more sleep if we are into this game.
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post Aug 28 2015, 08:08 PM

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QUOTE(Showtime747 @ Aug 28 2015, 07:35 PM)
Are you an investor or a trader ?
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Investor all this while, but slowly turning to trading.
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post Sep 1 2015, 09:27 AM

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Good morning.

Sgp GE is coming,... Workers Party is going in strong, Mr LKY is not there anymore. We have investments in Sgp. Let's not elaborate too much abt the 'no withholding tax' benefit for foreign investors.

I thank the Sgp government for their invstors' friendly position on this. Thank you, PAP,... Good luck in the coming GE.
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post Sep 1 2015, 10:13 AM

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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Sep 1 2015, 09:55 AM)
crude undergoing violent swings.

china market still not very stable.

if it falls another 10%, every market will fall with it! biggrin.gif

now is not the time to get into volatile stuff.

sgreits are relatively stable.

i'm not too distracted. tongue.gif
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I amnot getting into SG REITs yet. Mkts are unstable, China is trying to get back on her feet and to show the world something with an impt day coming, and most importantly : SG GE coming. Nomination Day is today. Poling Day is on Sep 11.

There would be better bargains later,... but,....of course, if you have the bullets to average down when the bargains become better, there is no harm to go in. You can never time the mkt, but you can bet on the overall worldwide trends.
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post Sep 1 2015, 10:23 AM

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JUst gotten a call from my pretty RM in DBS Wealth Banking : DBS is doing the Malaysia REmittances free-of-charge too. Free for how long ?? She needs to find out.

DBS is challenging Maybank SG.

Looks like there could be many acct-holders in SG repatriating funds back to Msia and DBS wants to earn from the exchange rate too.
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post Sep 1 2015, 10:29 AM

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One more update : for those who have pure hard SGD cash, if you have an acct in DBS, you can buy a type of Singapore Gov't Securirties called the Singapore Savings Bonds via Intenet Banking.

The above is starting from Sept 2015.

It is not too difficult to go down to Sgp to open an account, bring your passports along. Be safe, diversify, do not be greedy.
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post Sep 1 2015, 10:34 AM

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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Sep 1 2015, 10:31 AM)
what yields are these sgs?
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Sory, my friend,... have not checked. But off the top of my head,... the last I saw was that for 1-yr and above, it was below 1%. Sorry, quite low, huh ??? Singapore Savings Bonds - no idea al all.

Olam bonds have a high yield now. But they are constantly being haunted by accounting issues raised by a firm called Muddy Waters.
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post Sep 1 2015, 10:48 AM

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QUOTE(prophetjul @ Sep 1 2015, 10:40 AM)
SG bonds will be very low.

Olam has recovered somewhat
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But look at the past events for Olam,... off and on, Muddy Waters will just put up a news challenging some accounting reports and 'irregularities'. Temasek had to support the ctr too sometime back. This is volatility.

No fixed pattern to see, not even TA can decide to a certain percentage of accuracy.
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post Sep 8 2015, 11:00 AM

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QUOTE(prophetjul @ Sep 8 2015, 10:50 AM)
Caught between the hard rock and big blue............do you die, DOn'T DIE    biggrin.gif
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Good morning.

Well, our BNM is experiencing a similar problem with raising our Overnight Policy Rate (OPR) on the coming Friday mtg

1) Raise - they run a chance of protecting further capital outflows and being able to match the FOMC ambition. But rakyet will suffer Direct inflationary pressures.

2) Don't Raise - they run a risk of further depreciation of the RM, causing further Indirect inflationary pressures.

Let's watch closely for the MPS press statement on the coming Friday evening.

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