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Ramjade
post Apr 3 2017, 11:01 PM

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QUOTE(bearbear @ Apr 3 2017, 10:49 PM)
trump talk got effect meh?

now this market up up up only
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Market brushed it off. Even malaysia also not affected despite it was mentioned by that Malaysia trades with the US is not fair.

Countries mentioned:
China (obviously)
Japan, Germany, Mexico, Ireland, Vietnam, Italy, South Korea, Malaysia, India, Thailand, France, Switzerland, Taiwan, Indonesia and Canada.

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post Apr 3 2017, 11:16 PM

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QUOTE(Hansel @ Apr 3 2017, 11:04 PM)
SG MAS Monetary Policy Meeting on April 14,.. but press reports said MAS will not tighten,..
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Good. SGD will drop. Time to change then drool.gif Anytime SGD drop is a good time. Must not waste the opportunity.
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post Apr 4 2017, 10:13 AM

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QUOTE(elea88 @ Apr 4 2017, 10:06 AM)
i still hv my own spread sheet... which is something like what SGX CAFE has.
but then.. sgxcafe.. is really good. however worried since its a free thing.. anytime can be shut down.
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Actually can donate to them. Wish their asking price is lower.
Ramjade
post Apr 4 2017, 02:33 PM

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Haiz. Everything running away
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post Apr 4 2017, 03:08 PM

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QUOTE(gark @ Apr 4 2017, 02:57 PM)
Not good meh?.. your holdings sure gained equivalent a few years of divvy already..  rclxms.gif

The currency now performing better than SGD is INR..  whistling.gif
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Want to buy also think twice. sad.gif Want to change RM also SGD so high sad.gif

What does this mean "holdings sure gained equivalent a few years of divvy already"?

Er you mean IDR right or you indian rupee?

Now waiting for frasers commercial to exceed my buying price then sell it at profit. Then wait for them to confirm that they will lose HP as tenant then buy back again thumbup.gif Hopefully boleh jadi thumbup.gif sad.gif

Btw, does singtel at 3.90 seems ok to you?
Ramjade
post Apr 4 2017, 04:01 PM

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QUOTE(Showtime747 @ Apr 4 2017, 03:54 PM)
Ram's problem is he queued to buy at 0.98 instead of buying outright at 0.99. Should he bought at 0.99 without queueing, he would have made $0.11 + dividend

His account opened in Jan when STI was 28xx-29xx. Now 3182. He should have poured everything in on the first day he can trade

Of course, on hindsight, everything is 20-20  biggrin.gif
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Bro people just habis bullet last round. People not rich like you what with unlimited bullets what whistling.gif Besides I learnt my lesson. Never pour everything inside.
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post Apr 4 2017, 04:19 PM

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QUOTE(elea88 @ Apr 4 2017, 04:17 PM)
erm.. i also normally do not buy outright. I will Q to buy.
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Leave it la. He likes to pick on me as I don't like to buy at market price.
Besides cannot compare what. He got unlimited bullets unlike us (free money from Brexit whistling.gif)
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post Apr 4 2017, 04:44 PM

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I was wondering can trade reits or not... Get some additional ammo. hmm.gif

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post Apr 4 2017, 04:46 PM

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QUOTE(elea88 @ Apr 4 2017, 04:43 PM)
how can it turn red leh?  All of us here waiting to buy...
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When bull run happen, all counters green even reits
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post Apr 4 2017, 08:34 PM

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QUOTE(Showtime747 @ Apr 4 2017, 08:26 PM)
Habis bullet how to queue ?  biggrin.gif
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7 figure boleh habis? blink.gif shocking.gif

QUOTE(Showtime747 @ Apr 4 2017, 08:28 PM)
But he Q at 0.89, then after that change his Q to 0.885 and eventually bought nothing  biggrin.gif
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Change target because Trump said Japan also cheating on trade with US. Thought it can bring down the price slightly what...
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post Apr 4 2017, 08:50 PM

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QUOTE(Showtime747 @ Apr 4 2017, 08:45 PM)
Was referring to you....if you can Q, means you still have bullets  biggrin.gif

Ok, to prove a point, have you made a calculation how much is $0.005 affect the dividend yield ?

Say,
Assumption - long term investment (not trading)

Price $1.00
Dividend yield = $0.07 or 7%

If you manage to buy at 0.995, your dividend yield will increase to 7.04%. The difference is only 0.04%

For 0.04%, you run the risk of being not able to add the stock to your portfolio
However, if your aim is trading, then yes, you should be mindful for even $0.005 as that will affect your trading profit as your turnover will be very big
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Last round habis what. Just restock. Yes calculated. The effect of 0.005 makes my the dividend not so good looking. sad.gif
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post Apr 5 2017, 12:24 AM

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QUOTE(TSOM @ Apr 4 2017, 11:46 PM)
I'm interested in S-REITs. Do most of you open a trading + bank account in Singapore or just trade using malaysian trading accounts (like Maybank etc) with access to foreign stock market?
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I think most of us use a SG bank account + SG broker.
Only exception is AVFAN. I think he uses Cimb iTrade from Malaysia. Kena charge I think maintenance fees.

QUOTE(Hansel @ Apr 5 2017, 12:20 AM)
To Bros Showtime and Ram,... great exchange there,.. truly brightened up my hard day earlier,...

TQ.

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post Apr 5 2017, 12:31 AM

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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Apr 5 2017, 12:26 AM)
what maintenance fee r u talking about?
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I know there are extra fees from Malaysian side for buying foreign stocks right?
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post Apr 5 2017, 12:37 AM

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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Apr 5 2017, 12:35 AM)
tired of exaplaining.

thought u did all yr homework, clear to the last sen on all options? tongue.gif
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I don't research this doh.gif sweat.gif
Trying to help another person here.

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post Apr 5 2017, 01:01 AM

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QUOTE(TSOM @ Apr 4 2017, 11:46 PM)
I'm interested in S-REITs. Do most of you open a trading + bank account in Singapore or just trade using malaysian trading accounts (like Maybank etc) with access to foreign stock market?
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This was what I managed to dig dry.gif rolleyes.gif Hope it help you icon_rolleyes.gif
QUOTE(AVFAN @ Nov 12 2013, 04:20 PM)
just noticed no one answered u...

if not too late:

1. what are the fees involved compared to buying BURSA stocks?
<rm100k, 0.42%, >rm100k, 0.275%. plus  some other misc charges.
2. when selling, is the FOREX rate good or bad compared to normal KL bank rates? I presume selling singapore equities will convert the funds back to RM before depositing into trust account?
forex is normal bank prevailing rate on the day of settlement.
3. How are singapore stock dividends come back? In cheque or credit to trust account?
div in sgd is kept in sgd in the zero interest trust acc unlike rm trust acc. u can use them to buy more sg stocks. only when you make arrangement with them will they convert to rm.
money is deposited into yr designated cimb acc. not sure if u can ask them to deposit in other bank acc.


note... to trade sg, hk, usa with itrade, u need to sign some papers with the banker first.
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post Apr 5 2017, 01:23 AM

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QUOTE(TSOM @ Apr 5 2017, 01:16 AM)
wah.... from 2013??? Thank you!!!!!!  notworthy.gif  notworthy.gif
have to really give you a LIKE!!

I'm familiar with the fee structures in Singapore as I've read that up ages ago, it's just that I wasn't familiar with trades from the malaysian side. Thanks!
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Btw, I remember he said he got maintenance fees. That's why he keep his S-reits only to 5. Best to ask cimb and see. icon_rolleyes.gif
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post Apr 5 2017, 08:32 AM

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QUOTE(Showtime747 @ Apr 5 2017, 07:36 AM)
I notice when I put up some numbers, Ramjade would stop responding. Happens a few times already

He is good at arguments with words, but stops when face with numbers....
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Well I am bad with numbers. Maths wasn't my best subject. Simple +, -,.x, / can la. laugh.gif
I am not taikor who do business overseas what whistling.gif
Just trying to earn decent return to outrun malaysian depreciation.

QUOTE(Showtime747 @ Apr 5 2017, 07:41 AM)
You should compare how much you would have saved with local platform. Do those who ask like TSOM a favor.

There must be a threshold when it is more economical and worth the hassle to open a Singapore accounts. My guess is the amount you save is not worth your effort to go down to Singapore and open bank accounts and trading account
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Your guess is as good as mine hmm.gif Well I have my reasons for doing it. Long term outlook + long term cost makes it worth to make a an annual/semi annual trip. Cost eats up over time you know.
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QUOTE(Hansel @ Apr 5 2017, 11:41 AM)
Bro,.. not necessary to pay that amt, even if yr divvies reach into the thousands per qtr. Try to open SG brokerage accounts,... but, wait a minute, there's a problem,... you can't transfer yr shares over to yr SG brokerage, can you ??

You may need to sell and buy again, in which case, you can't buy at the good prices at which you bought earlier,...
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Can.

QUOTE(gark @ Apr 5 2017, 11:54 AM)
Not directly only ETF.. US shares dividend kena 30% tax..  sweat.gif
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That's why I am not sure want to go the AU route or HK route. AU 30% tax. HK 0% tax. Gark, elea88, Leslie told me to use margin for Reits. Told me prefunded not suitable doh.gif ranting.gif rolleyes.gif

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post Apr 5 2017, 12:33 PM

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QUOTE(gark @ Apr 5 2017, 12:26 PM)
Using margin, you can get much higher yields, but at higher risks.

There are people advocating using margin for reits, the calculation works out very nicely.  drool.gif

But I too chicken to try.  laugh.gif
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Me no money and heart for margin tongue.gif Some more 3.16x our currency. No joke with margins. shakehead.gif

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post Apr 5 2017, 12:35 PM

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Wah. Must be my lucky day.
Croesus was at 0.91. Was thinking whether to queue at 0.905 but decide to try luck with 0.9 and was furfilled. This one queue for so many days already tak dapat apa-apa.

Now must try mapletree china at SGD1 and see can get or not drool.gif icon_rolleyes.gif

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