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Ramjade
post Apr 12 2017, 06:08 PM

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Soilbuild REIT 1Q DPU falls 4.4% to 1.489 cents
http://www.theedgemarkets.com.sg/article/s...s-44-1489-cents

Will aims fall also because of this? hmm.gif
Kasi chance please cry.gif

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post Apr 12 2017, 06:23 PM

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QUOTE(elea88 @ Apr 12 2017, 06:17 PM)
This month is REPORT CARD month... We hv to see if there is any surprise result...
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All my market all green. Some counters have even made 5% returns biggrin.gif Except Singtel, RedRevenge of the AU telcom operator. WIll try to queue at 3.8 and see can get or not.
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post Apr 13 2017, 10:49 AM

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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Apr 13 2017, 10:22 AM)
<5% yield...

reits, i see only parkway life and kdc.

u gonna sell them now?
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KDC said supposedly going to increase dpu. Don't know if they can do that or not.
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post Apr 13 2017, 01:16 PM

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QUOTE(Vector88 @ Apr 13 2017, 01:05 PM)
SGD shot up to 3.1764 this morning ... what happened?
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Because USD weaken after donald trump sais he don't like USD to be strong.

RM is essentially "pegged" to USD so if USD drop, we also drop. sad.gif

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post Apr 13 2017, 08:32 PM

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QUOTE(elea88 @ Apr 13 2017, 02:57 PM)
ya yesterday i saw was 3.155 money changer rate.. today i see 3.185...
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QUOTE(prince_mk @ Apr 13 2017, 08:29 PM)
really killing us here. earning RM and change SGD. haizz....
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3.2 coming at this rate we are going sad.gif doh.gif

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post Apr 13 2017, 09:41 PM

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QUOTE(elea88 @ Apr 13 2017, 09:20 PM)
yeap.. but if dun change to SGD.. our $$$ is getting smaller and smaller.

Now my kids overseas education idea maybe have to scrape at this rate....
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You can do like what my friend's father did. Convert all AUD500k tuition fees for 4 years study. No need to worry about currency appreciate/depreciate.

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post Apr 13 2017, 10:46 PM

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QUOTE(aspartame @ Apr 13 2017, 10:26 PM)
Convert RM500k into AUD u mean?
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Ya.
Ramjade
post Apr 14 2017, 09:29 AM

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QUOTE(prophetjul @ Apr 14 2017, 09:27 AM)
Rich man. But Rm500k do not pay for 4 years in Aus.
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Well that was then when RM was at 3.1 vs AUD. Then it drop. From what that friend told me, his father converted the entire tuition fees at one go.
That guy rich what. Can demolish and rebuild the house.
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post Apr 14 2017, 03:56 PM

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QUOTE(prince_mk @ Apr 14 2017, 03:48 PM)
Sorry side track abit. Anyone buy MReits ? What do u think MRCB Reits ?
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It's one of the good reits along with axis and igbreit (but igbreit too expensive. Last time price only RM1.3x. Now RM1.70)
Some stuff for you to read
http://fifthperson.com/11-malaysian-reits-...rom-their-ipos/
http://mreit.fifthperson.com/


Ramjade
post Apr 16 2017, 09:22 AM

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QUOTE(prince_mk @ Apr 16 2017, 09:13 AM)
Real Estate Investment Trusts (REITs) incorporated in Thailand had the highest average dividend yield in ASEAN in the first half of 2012, a new study by property broker CBRE Group shows.

According to the research, Thailand’s REITS returned an average of 7.6 per cent as opposed to Singapore REITs with an average of 6.4 per cent and Malaysian REITs with 5.9 per cent average yield before tax.

Thailand also had the largest number of listed REITs in entire East Asia, the study shows. Currently. 38 REITs are listed in Thailand, 26 in Singapore and 15 in Malaysia, CBRE says.
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There's no ready info for thailand stocks. sad.gif
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post Apr 16 2017, 02:11 PM

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QUOTE(prince_mk @ Apr 15 2017, 09:58 PM)
TQ Ramjade. I will consider on Axis Reits and MQ Reits. Just for fun only.

Elea, do you invest in Msia shares also ?

Bro Hansel, do you invest in Thai shares market ?
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See this topic before buying m-reits
https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...post&p=84336206
https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...post&p=84356440
A 5% return in Singapore will beat a 6% return in Malaysia overtime.

Regarding Thailand Reits, must see whether THB depreciate/appreciate against MYR overtime. No point buying Thailand Reits for it depreciate against MYR right? Yes. THB is stronger than MYR these past one year. But as xuzen said need min 3 years of data.

Also need to see whether Thailand have with holding tax or not.

Hansel returns of Aussie Reits vs S-reit which is higher after factoring the AU 30% tax?

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post Apr 17 2017, 08:46 AM

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QUOTE(prophetjul @ Apr 17 2017, 08:37 AM)
Are fees paid to REIT managers really the problem?
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Goola Warden
SINGAPORE (April 13): The extraordinary general meeting requisitioned by 66 disgruntled unitholders of Sabana Shari’ah Compliant Industrial Real Estate Investment Trust (Sabana REIT) that has been scheduled for April 28 could see a lively debate about the fees that the beleaguered REIT has been paying its manager.

Jerry Low Chin Yee, the de facto leader of the dissident unitholders, says his main gripe is that Sabana REIT’s distributions per unit (DPUs) have dropped from 9.38 cents in 2013 to 5.01 cents in 2016. During this period, however, fees paid to Sabana REIT’s manager remained largely intact.

Sabana REIT’s manager has defended the fees payable by the REIT, stating in the EGM circular to unitholders that they are “within the range of all the fees charged by other property managers of Singapore-focused industrial and logistics REITs with [assets under management (AUM)] of between $1 billion and $2 billion”.

It specifically compared Sabana REIT’s fee structure to those of AIMS AMP Capital Industrial REIT (AA REIT), Cache Logistics Trust, Soilbuild Business Space REIT and Viva Industrial Trust (VIT).

Yet, this misses the point. REITs that have comparable fee structures do not necessarily deliver similar results. And, there are other avenues for REIT managers to boost their overall fees besides driving operational performance.

In the case of Sabana REIT, the dissatisfaction among unitholders stems not just from the fees that the manager has been collecting, but from the fact that it has been doing so even as unitholders have been losing money.

Unitholders paid fees of $8.51 million in 2013, $9.68 million in 2014, $9.29 million in 2015 and $8.63 million in 2016.

For all the criticism that Sabana REIT’s manager has faced, analysts say fees are not the first thing they consider when sizing up a REIT.

What else do analysts look for, and how have standards shifted for REITs over the years? Find out how the unitholder revolt at Sabana REIT could catalyse further changes in Singapore’s REIT sector in this week’s cover story for The Edge Singapore, (Issue 775, week of April 17), available at newsstands today.
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Of course fee is one part of the equation.
- Rising fees but falling DPU? (Keppel reit)
- Issuing rights and paying more than other reits that's problematic = less efficient (Sabana)
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post Apr 17 2017, 09:17 AM

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QUOTE(prophetjul @ Apr 17 2017, 09:00 AM)
Good thing I hedged my assets in gold.
It is MYR5800 per oz today! 
Stoopid MYR is back above 4.4 to the USD!
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Real gold/paper gold/gold etf?
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post Apr 17 2017, 10:18 AM

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Just curious, if say FCL intend to dispose this property to it's reit, which reit will take this up seeing that they don't have EU specific reit?
http://www.theedgemarkets.com.sg/article/f...ompany-4716-mil
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post Apr 17 2017, 10:42 AM

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QUOTE(Hansel @ Apr 17 2017, 10:39 AM)
Bro,... this Sabana event is the first of its kind where unitholders revolted against her,.. an event that will set the precedence for governance for many years to come,..

I think it's worth to go for this AGM,... what do you think ? It's worth fight in this battle to learn to evaluate REITs.
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Well I think I have learnt is I think SGreans are very protective of their money. If the manager is no good, they won't hesitate to fire the manager. But then again as gark said, sabana is being bought over by e-Shang Redwood so this EGM is mor elike eye wash.
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post Apr 17 2017, 10:47 AM

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QUOTE(Hansel @ Apr 17 2017, 10:44 AM)
Bro,... there's no confirmation yet,... there could still be many steps to go before e-Shang can takeover officially !

Would you be keen to go ?? We don't get to see something like this everyday,...
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I told you what. No times for AGMs/EGMs in the future in my line of work. Of course if they have recorded video broadcast, would like to watch it.
But on the other hand, would like to see how SGreans revolt against the management.

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post Apr 17 2017, 02:21 PM

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QUOTE(prince_mk @ Apr 17 2017, 02:17 PM)
Can name so Malaysia shares to keep for long term ?
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Nestle, Public Bank, Maybank, Tenaga. If Nestle delist and decide to relist in SG, I will buy it straight away at market price. No queuing.

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post Apr 17 2017, 07:18 PM

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QUOTE(prince_mk @ Apr 17 2017, 06:58 PM)
Elea,

u made loss by buying public bank or Nestle shares ?
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I think what happen was she sold off public bank to follow other people's advise to buy other counter. In doing so public bank continue slow steady climb up but the other counter maybe crash.

Keep in mind, public bank is old fashion. You don't see them investing in fintech (which I believe will bite them in the future). They may have the best CETI among Malaysian and SGean banks, most kiamsap bank but if you don't invest in technologies, you will be left out. You cannot depend on old people sentiment foreever. This is something you need to take note if you really want to hold this counter. Maybank, Cimb, DBS, OCBC, UOB all investing in fintech.

More details about public bank
Public Bank AGM 2017
9 things I learned from Public Bank’s 2017 AGM

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post Apr 17 2017, 08:56 PM

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Any possibilities that aims will drop after ex date or should I queue at 1.38?
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QUOTE(elea88 @ Apr 17 2017, 08:57 PM)
I would normally buy before the ex date.. in the hope that after exdate price will go up.

But if keeping yield long term dun think will be any difference the few cents...
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Gark said he always do his shopping after ex date as price usually drop after ex date. May not always be true. Haiz... Limited bullets, so much things to buy

My reit shopping list (still left to buy when have the money and when the price drop) laugh.gif
- Aims
- MGCCT
- First Reit
- Lippo malls

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