QUOTE(AVFAN @ Jun 1 2015, 10:45 AM)
yeah.... laugh all the way to bank to get my dividend Btw, last weekend go Orchard to walk walk see see...
there people is crowded ...... starreit another plan to invest.... but not now... the price is new high?
Singapore REITS, S-REITS
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Jun 2 2015, 09:41 AM
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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Jun 1 2015, 10:45 AM) yeah.... laugh all the way to bank to get my dividend Btw, last weekend go Orchard to walk walk see see... there people is crowded ...... starreit another plan to invest.... but not now... the price is new high? |
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Jun 2 2015, 10:08 AM
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today should be shopping day. SGX very red.
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Jun 2 2015, 10:12 AM
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QUOTE(Havoc Knightmare @ Jun 2 2015, 07:49 AM) Hi guys, yr experience with mreits is not isolated. Was not aware of this thread's existence til today. I've been lurking in HWZ all these years reading the SREIT threads there. How nice to find a similar community closer to home. I've been an income-oriented MREIT investor for years but I started diversifying into SREITs over the past two years. I was always attracted to SREITs but resisted from investing there in a big way due to unfamiliarity. Eventually as all the "blue chip" MREITs started to yield no better than Singapore's Parkway life, it made no sense to hold MREITs anymore. Plus the tax free and depreciating RM factors made the divergent returns a lot more obvious. I took the plunge, and converted my portfolio into SGD and started building an income portfolio there. I've been holding soilbuild, aims amp and viva sinceJan. Generated about 10% in price returns and 4% dividends so far. The price returns have been a lot higher than my expectations, but I'm not complaining. I'm looking to diversify my risk away from the industrial sector but I'm not quite comfortable with retail or hospitality at this point of time. I'm considering adding some "risk-free" parkway life. Just to clarify, I mean "risk-free" in terms of dividend certainty not market certainty. the diff i see is a lot more sgreits reports healthy increasing revenues->income->profits->dpu, not the case for most mreits. no need to dwell on the details as u already know. like elea88, i urge u to consider firstreit: .. healthcare/hospitals .. no only sg but indon, etc, revenues in sgd .. drip - so far, offered prices 5% below market .. price may be near all time high but yield is still healthy at 5.7%. .. read the website, u'll like what u read consider also starhillglobal. this one is very steady, yield 5.8% This post has been edited by AVFAN: Jun 2 2015, 10:12 AM |
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Jun 2 2015, 10:20 AM
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first 5 months of 2015... superstar is FIRSTREIT.
bottom - ireit and sabana (as expected). QUOTE Performance – May 2015 Posted on May 29, 2015 by KK STI +0.801% : 3392.11 (May-15) vs 3365.15 (2014) Rank – Capital Gains REIT May-15 Dec-14 Gain First REIT $ 1.470 $ 1.255 17.1% Mapletree GCC Tr $ 1.070 $ 0.950 12.6% FrasersCT $ 2.130 $ 1.895 12.4% Lippo Malls Tr $ 0.375 $ 0.340 10.3% MCT $ 1.555 $ 1.410 10.3% SB REIT $ 0.870 $ 0.790 10.1% FrasersComm $ 1.555 $ 1.415 9.9% StarhillGbl Reit $ 0.875 $ 0.800 9.4% Keppel DC REIT $ 1.050 $ 0.975 7.7% CapitaRChina $ 1.735 $ 1.615 7.4% MIT $ 1.595 $ 1.485 7.4% CapitaMall $ 2.170 $ 2.040 6.4% AIMSAMP Cap Reit $ 1.505 $ 1.415 6.4% OUE H-Trust $ 0.955 $ 0.905 5.5% A-HTrust $ 0.715 $ 0.680 5.1% VIT $ 0.835 $ 0.795 5.0% Cambridge $ 0.710 $ 0.680 4.4% Saizen REIT $ 0.885 $ 0.860 2.9% OUE C-REIT $ 0.825 $ 0.805 2.5% AscottREIT $ 1.285 $ 1.270 1.2% Ascendasreit $ 2.400 $ 2.380 0.8% Fortune Reit HK$ $ 7.770 $ 7.760 0.1% CLT $ 1.160 $ 1.160 0.0% SPHREIT $ 1.040 $ 1.0400.0% ParkwayLife Reit $ 2.350 $ 2.380 -1.3% CDL Htrust $ 1.715 $ 1.740 -1.4% MapletreeLog $ 1.165 $ 1.185 -1.7% FE-HTrust $ 0.800 $ 0.815 -1.8% K-REIT $ 1.195 $ 1.220 -2.0% Frasers Htrust $ 0.870 $ 0.890 -2.2% CapitaComm $ 1.615 $ 1.755 -8.0% SuntecReit $ 1.800 $ 1.960 -8.2% Sabana $ 0.860 $ 0.940 -8.5% IREIT Global $ 0.805$ 0.890-9.6% http://reitdata.com/ |
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Jun 2 2015, 10:30 AM
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Jun 2 2015, 11:17 AM
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Jun 2 2015, 11:25 AM
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QUOTE(elea88 @ Jun 2 2015, 10:08 AM) I took a small bite on SingTel today... Its price has been down from 4.4 2-3 weeks ago to now hovering around 4.0x. Current yield at around 4.2%-4.3% based on recent FY2015 dividend of 17.5 cents per annum...my first foray into non-reit in SGX ... wish me luck |
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Jun 2 2015, 11:32 AM
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QUOTE(Vector88 @ Jun 2 2015, 11:25 AM) I took a small bite on SingTel today... Its price has been down from 4.4 2-3 weeks ago to now hovering around 4.0x. Current yield at around 4.2%-4.3% based on recent FY2015 dividend of 17.5 cents per annum... hohoo...my first foray into non-reit in SGX ... wish me luck i had been staring at it for last 2 hrs, may join u! |
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Jun 2 2015, 11:34 AM
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Jun 2 2015, 11:39 AM
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Jun 2 2015, 11:40 AM
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http://mystocksinvesting.com/singapore-rei...le-1-june-2015/
■Most overvalue REIT is FIRST REIT (Price/NAV = 1.44), followed by Parkway Life (Price/NAV = 1.40). Both Healthcare REIT, Defensive in nature. u think can divest FIRST REIT? Our capital appre is good already.... |
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Jun 2 2015, 11:45 AM
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Jun 2 2015, 11:46 AM
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QUOTE(elea88 @ Jun 2 2015, 11:39 AM) Telco in SG fear 4th telco player. Yeah, check out the comprehensive report by UBS here...SingTel likely to be least impacted by the 4th telco in SG, due to its diversification..However Singtel hv investment overseas, so far its the last telco to drop.... http://singaporestockmarketnews.blogspot.c...fect-storm.html |
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Jun 2 2015, 11:47 AM
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QUOTE(Vector88 @ Jun 2 2015, 11:34 AM) seems like there is a resistence at 4 dollars... yep, bought some at 4.03.if it breaks that level, probably can accumulate more ... wait n see what happens next. QUOTE(elea88 @ Jun 2 2015, 11:40 AM) http://mystocksinvesting.com/singapore-rei...le-1-june-2015/ it is toppish, no doubt.■Most overvalue REIT is FIRST REIT (Price/NAV = 1.44), followed by Parkway Life (Price/NAV = 1.40). Both Healthcare REIT, Defensive in nature. u think can divest FIRST REIT? Our capital appre is good already.... thing is if u sell, what do u buy to get same yield that is strong n stable? i keep since yield still good. i stick to my only rule - any one of them goes <5% yield, no matter what acquisition price, i sell. of course, there are those that lose >5% in price, sell faster! This post has been edited by AVFAN: Jun 2 2015, 11:48 AM |
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Jun 2 2015, 11:53 AM
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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Jun 2 2015, 11:47 AM) yep, bought some at 4.03. sell now and buy back cheaper? what are the chances?wait n see what happens next. it is toppish, no doubt. thing is if u sell, what do u buy to get same yield that is strong n stable? i keep since yield still good. i stick to my only rule - any one of them goes <5% yield, no matter what acquisition price, i sell. of course, there are those that lose >5% in price, sell faster! |
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Jun 2 2015, 12:03 PM
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QUOTE(elea88 @ Jun 2 2015, 11:53 AM) see, that way i look at it...if a reit can go down, cheap enough to buy back after transactions costs, it means something's gone bad, investors dumping. unlikely it can bounce back so easily as the factors usually have longer term effects - tenants, leases, mgmt trouble, int rate hike. reits aren't speculative stocks although it is possible for 5% range. 5%... worth the risk n trouble? not for me... |
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Jun 2 2015, 01:00 PM
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Jun 3 2015, 07:31 AM
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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Jun 2 2015, 11:47 AM) yep, bought some at 4.03. Singtel.. I nibble some at 4.00 and it close lower 3.98...wait n see what happens next. it is toppish, no doubt. thing is if u sell, what do u buy to get same yield that is strong n stable? i keep since yield still good. i stick to my only rule - any one of them goes <5% yield, no matter what acquisition price, i sell. of course, there are those that lose >5% in price, sell faster! today will continue the downturn as break 4.00 already.... |
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Jun 3 2015, 09:10 AM
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singtel.. dropping further today
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Jun 3 2015, 09:22 AM
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