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yok70
post Mar 5 2013, 04:59 AM

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QUOTE(ShinG3e @ Mar 4 2013, 10:15 PM)
My friend from HekTar Reit ask me to look out for KLCC-Reit.

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What this mean? What's Hektar related to KLCCP? notworthy.gif
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post Mar 7 2013, 11:47 PM

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I received Hektar Annual Report today.
Wanna ask sifu to explain how Reit company pay their debt. notworthy.gif

It stated Debt Expiry Profile as at 31 December 2012 as:

FY2013 - RM150m
FY2014 - 0
FY2015 - RM15m
FY2016 - RM271m

Total debt - RM436m
Gearing Ratio - 40.89%
Weighted Cost of Debt - 4.58%
Interest Cover - 4.67%


Does it mean by 2013, Hektar must vomit out RM150m to pay the expiring debt?
Normally, how they pay the debt? As the 4.58%(or should I use 4.67%?) is just to pay for interest of their borrowing, not even paying any debt yet, right?
What will happen by end of FY2016? Does it mean Hektar's debt will be cleared? Or it doesn't mean much, just that every year or so, Hektar gotta re-structure their debt (getting new borrowings to cover old borrowings) in order to avoid debt expiring?
For instance this total of RM436m debt, how many years normally (or reasonably) do you think Hektar required to clear them all?

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post Mar 8 2013, 12:47 AM

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QUOTE(cherroy @ Mar 8 2013, 12:11 AM)
Yes.
But normally it is refinanced, instead of fork out cash on its own.
Reit generally has little money left after dividend/distribution payout (as they need to pay at least 90% of their earning) so it is almost impossible for any reit to pay back the debt one shot through cash they own, unless through the sale of properties they own.

Debt can be refinanced and roll over indefinitely.
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I see.
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post Apr 4 2013, 02:27 AM

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QUOTE(river.sand @ Apr 3 2013, 05:10 PM)
AXREIT drops 15 sen!
But still a bit expensive to add  unsure.gif
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I'd rather wait at 3.00 or below. biggrin.gif
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post Apr 9 2013, 03:11 AM

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QUOTE(river.sand @ Apr 8 2013, 12:17 PM)
Trailing DY is 5.17%, forward DY should be higher, as it is buying properties in Iskandar.

But my concern is office over-supply...
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not attractive anymore.
retail malls rental more safe and yield now getting closer.
i started selling down my axreit in past few days.
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post Apr 11 2013, 11:47 PM

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QUOTE(cwhong @ Apr 11 2013, 11:25 PM)
Just for sharing, no other purpose....... Regarding sungai wang plaza .....

http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/2769987
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post Apr 18 2013, 12:22 AM

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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Apr 17 2013, 07:06 PM)
so quiet for this reits thread... nobody buying/selling?

axis continues to move up, 3.68. who said no more capital gains? tongue.gif

low yield pavreit looks tanked at 1.57, possibly due to klccp reit coming soon. will b interesting to see if pavreit will go <1.50 to give a better yield at klccp listing.

sunreit - lots of chance to buy at 1.51-1.52 just 2 weeks ago, now 1.56, not bad.
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As axreit won't drop and continue to move up, i'd sold 70% of my holding already. Yield is too low now, don't like that.
KLCCP said 30 sen for current year, so net yield at current price 7.10 is only 4.2%*0.9(10% tax) = 3.78%. Wondering why people still chasing it. hmm.gif

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post Apr 18 2013, 11:16 PM

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QUOTE(aeiou228 @ Apr 18 2013, 07:13 PM)
Indeed No.
Your REIT appreciated and your yield is lower. You can't use the purchased price to calculate the current yield.
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same thought. icon_rolleyes.gif

to buy, or to hold, for me, are under the same criteria: undervalued. nod.gif

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post May 18 2013, 02:20 AM

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QUOTE(AVFAN @ May 18 2013, 12:04 AM)
at 4.00, yield is 4.5% only, among the lowest. time to sell? hmm.gif
http://mreit.reitdata.com/
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4.5% is gross or net? if gross, net is only 4.05%. So low. hmm.gif
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post Jun 1 2013, 12:17 AM

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QUOTE(hehe86 @ May 31 2013, 11:31 PM)
Guys, was checking at mreit.reitdata.com to identify the types of reits. Noticed some REITS' type are diversified. Any sifus here can kindly tell me what are these main type? (office, retail, industrial, hospitality, healthcare)

1.Starhill - hospitality?
2.Al-AQAR Healthcare - i thought is healthcare? instead of plantation?
3.Al-Hadharah
4.Sunway - retail?

thanks in advance!
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1.Starhill - hotel
2.Al-AQAR Healthcare - healthcare
3.Al-Hadharah - plantation
4.Sunway - mix. majority retail mall.
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post Jun 1 2013, 03:49 AM

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QUOTE(hehe86 @ Jun 1 2013, 02:01 AM)
hehe, thanks. hardworking as usual eh, good luck in ur oversea trades!
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post Jun 3 2013, 05:43 PM

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QUOTE(toughgshock @ Jun 3 2013, 05:01 PM)
How does property appreciation benefit REIT holder? I was told that if REIT appreciate, they will issue and sell more units. It does not benefit existing unit holder...true?
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I think only if they sell the property and make a profit, then only can benefit unit holder in the form of more yield (since REIT must at least distribute 90% income to unit holder) or re-invest those cash to increase future income. If not selling the properties, the "profit" is only "paper profit". Paper profit can disappear if in future properties price drop. hmm.gif
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QUOTE(river.sand @ Jun 1 2013, 09:05 AM)
If it actually runs the hotels, then the income would depend on guest arrivals, which is not consistent...
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The income from the 3 newly acquired hotels in Australia depends on guest arrivals.
However, the local hotels has fixed rental rate, so steady income stream for many more years(10? 15 years? forgot) until if they re-valuate the contract.
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post Jun 5 2013, 10:56 PM

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QUOTE(river.sand @ Jun 5 2013, 05:08 PM)
AXREIT drops to 3.91!
But still too expensive to buy...
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3.50 or below. Even at 3.50, gross yield only 5.4%, not as attractive as over 6% before.
at 3.91, yield is only same as large-cap retail malls. i'd rather buy top retail mall reit for more defensive purpose.
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post Jun 10 2013, 10:13 PM

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QUOTE(faroukalhadad @ Jun 10 2013, 06:26 PM)
Guys, even the big sovereign wealth fund is ditching Malaysian REIT. Does anyone have any info on what are the considerations when they let go off good yield units like these.

REITSWEEK.COM : Government of Singapore ditches more units of Capitamalls Malaysia

I do not believe that a fund such as the government of Singapore would be so short sighted as to dispose reits that give good yield.
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many funds play up and down to profit from capital gain too.
consider June 2012, Government of Singapore has a stake of 5.67% vs today's 5.73. So the stake has actually increased as compare with a year ago.
now lets see EPF. A year ago holds 9.55% vs Today's 9.34%. Decrease a bit.
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post Jun 10 2013, 10:17 PM

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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Jun 10 2013, 06:35 PM)
i'm not vested in this counter...

sg wang, mines... at that yield, hard to get excited. and these 2 look kinda "yesterday" to me. tongue.gif

there had been sporadic reports that an increasinlgy no. of sg wang lots are vacant, no takers, too expensive.

and for foreign investors, the rm stregthened in a flash after ge13 and now going down, good time to cash out?
why not u share with us wat u think?
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I do have some worry regarding Sungai Wang too. I can see the lower 3 floors have good crowd, but the upper floors are not. I think we need more human traffic into KL in order to maintain that crowd. Although KL traffic jam heavily, but shopping malls are just overcapacity.
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post Jun 12 2013, 01:09 PM

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QUOTE(pisces88 @ Jun 12 2013, 01:40 AM)
reits still one of the best investment,  although the return nt as attractive anymore..

although reit buyers are usually in for the dividend, you'll still get some good capital gains.. all my reits except amfirst got + capital gain from last year.
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not easy ahead as yield has been compressed since last 2 years.
probably looking at 3-8% pa capital gain is already good enough, cannot reach above 20% like past 2 years anymore.
anyway, if buy at the right time on dips, may gain another 5% or so. laugh.gif
but the risk is, when interest rate raise, reit may even suffer capital loss. sweat.gif

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post Jun 14 2013, 01:14 PM

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QUOTE(mopster @ Jun 14 2013, 12:52 PM)
hmm stareit gearing up for more acquisitions ??
earlier they delayed payment period.. now placement and borrowing limit..
60% of NAV ?? that's quite high, isnt it ?
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I also feeling lost on this company. I remember before acquisition of the 3 Australia Marriott Hotels, it was holding large cash? Then the acquisition still need to increase gearing a lot on that acquisition I think. Don't know why. Now once again large placement + up gearing? I can't even sure what's the yield for FY14. Now I am really rclxub.gif
Cherroy got Stareit? Can share with us what's going on?
I wish some IB write research paper on this company, but so far can't find any. cry.gif

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post Jun 14 2013, 03:10 PM

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QUOTE(davinz18 @ Jun 14 2013, 02:39 PM)
Starhill REIT

Total borrowing 

RM 1,581,800,000 (before) 
RM  793,800,000 (after)

Gearing Ratio

50.63% (before)
25.41% (after)

http://announcements.bursamalaysia.com/EDM...%28Final%29.pdf
After reading, I could conclude that Stareit could be looking to buy more asset using loans (thus increasing borrowing limit to 60%).  Placement of New units is to partly pay the Marriott Hotels Acquisition loans. Expected NAV is at RM1.10
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post Jun 14 2013, 03:42 PM

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QUOTE(river.sand @ Jun 14 2013, 03:37 PM)
STARHILL REIT

In order to facilitate the issuance of the Placement Units, the Manager is proposing to increase the approved fund size of Starhill REIT from 1,324,388,889 units by such number of units to be issued pursuant to the Proposed Placement up to a maximum of 2,125,000,000 units.

Units increase by almost twofold. What is the projected earning of STAREIT?
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high dilution. shakehead.gif

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