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Pogostik
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Sep 9 2012, 05:51 PM
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QUOTE(ken_twh @ Sep 7 2012, 08:05 PM) sorry i have to use google translation to chinese then now i think i understand what you mean. my english really ... broken. sorry again. then merz and bmw is japan of europe? Then what about VW and Audi? Europe of Europe?
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SKYjack
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Sep 11 2012, 11:23 AM
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QUOTE(rcracer @ Sep 1 2012, 11:17 PM) Just don't kid yourself you're buying a 'premium' car, it's definitely not one in Europe that's the domain of German makes. Then you'll be ok. Peugeot is far far from being a big premium market player, they are the Koreans of Europe Peugeot is and was, never intended a premium car. If you think the Greman marques are trouble free,then you're in for a shocking surprise!
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rcracer
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Sep 11 2012, 12:59 PM
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QUOTE(Pogostik @ Sep 9 2012, 05:51 PM) Then what about VW and Audi? Europe of Europe?  Audi yes, their products are top quality, the staff are expected to lick the floor clean after each day. VW is slightly above peugeot but still not the domain of audi
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mav3rick
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Sep 11 2012, 02:59 PM
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QUOTE(rcracer @ Sep 11 2012, 12:59 PM) Audi yes, their products are top quality, the staff are expected to lick the floor clean after each day. VW is slightly above peugeot but still not the domain of audi you do know that VW ownes Audi right? And Audi are the luxury marque while VW targets the more mainstream market? comparing VW to Audi is like comparing Toyota to Lexus or Nissan with Infiniti This post has been edited by mav3rick: Sep 11 2012, 03:06 PM
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BuFung
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Sep 11 2012, 03:08 PM
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wat mean by not so domain? different segment of car...
VW brand itself worth much more than Audi itself.. anyway.. all under VW group...
just like Lexus... the turn over are much smaller compare to Toyota brand itself...
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stix
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Sep 11 2012, 03:43 PM
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QUOTE(BuFung @ Sep 11 2012, 03:08 PM) wat mean by not so domain? different segment of car... VW brand itself worth much more than Audi itself.. anyway.. all under VW group... just like Lexus... the turn over are much smaller compare to Toyota brand itself... i believe he is talking about brand perception, like how Lexus is the superior of Toyota and how Toyota & Honda is the superior of Proton. you get the drift right? This post has been edited by stix: Sep 11 2012, 03:43 PM
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ar188
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Sep 14 2012, 11:06 PM
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QUOTE(replymela @ Aug 29 2012, 02:20 PM) At first I thought I have no choice but to buy from these cronies and let them earn.. I was wrong .. They want to earn even in their sub standard after sale service  oh you bought a local frenchie..  Added on September 14, 2012, 11:09 pmQUOTE(pg84 @ Aug 29 2012, 03:19 PM) That day my 407 jacked up for oil change , after looking at the suspension front n back I realize how much effort the french put in to car . yeah my ex 407 got very solid front double wishbone suspension.. just make sure dun have anything spoil... last time they changed the shocks under warranty due to leaking, FOC, but i recon labor would cost a bomb if it's out of warranty cos need to open up the complex suspension just to change shocks.. This post has been edited by ar188: Sep 14 2012, 11:09 PM
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replymela
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Sep 16 2012, 12:50 AM
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QUOTE(ar188 @ Sep 14 2012, 11:06 PM) oh you bought a local frenchie..  Added on September 14, 2012, 11:09 pmyeah my ex 407 got very solid front double wishbone suspension.. just make sure dun have anything spoil... last time they changed the shocks under warranty due to leaking, FOC, but i recon labor would cost a bomb if it's out of warranty cos need to open up the complex suspension just to change shocks.. are there any non-local frenchie? most franchises are owned by cronies no?..
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IluvProton
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Sep 16 2012, 02:07 PM
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QUOTE(replymela @ Sep 15 2012, 07:50 PM) are there any non-local frenchie? most franchises are owned by cronies no?.. nope. is ALL brand car seller also owned by cronies
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TSrnans
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Sep 30 2012, 10:53 AM
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QUOTE(SKYjack @ Sep 9 2012, 05:10 PM) Koreans already makan the Japs la bro! If they already makan the Japs why does Kia's "K" made to look like an "L" prabably some owners think the will be mistaken for Lexus HAHA Food for thought Bro.........Actually Japan no more relies on car sales as a main source of their national income they are moving more into Robotics, supercomputers and a bunch of other stuff so you are right in saying they ( the Koreans) probably will put their best effort into their cars for example look at the shapes of the new Sonata and Kia saloon space age design concepts dont you think, compared to the drab looks of the camries and the accords....
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