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Soros007
post Jan 1 2013, 06:26 PM

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I invested a bit in cyber (many LYN forumers called us water fish hehe) hence did some studies n research before committed Ma. In fact we just share the info via forum. U buying cyber too bro?

QUOTE(kmfong @ Jan 1 2013, 06:23 PM)
bcos anything happen in cyber u also know especially in development , i though u r taikotai.am i right?
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post Jan 1 2013, 06:28 PM

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Wah lau eh... No taiko la. I m just a kacang Putih here only... Sharing info only la.
QUOTE(AMINT @ Jan 1 2013, 06:26 PM)
soros007 is a big time taiko. double agent some more. i open my eyes whenever he posts something
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post Jan 1 2013, 09:10 PM

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Bro, not going to repeat the same post again here.
All my personal opinions about cyber were recorded in this LYN (kindly use search function for all the posts that i made previously).
In summary, if you are a long term prop investor then YES especially the landed prop even though the pricing is already more than Rm1.0mil. If we compare the price with respect to DPC, there is still some big gap to be reached. For short term investment or flipper, you may want to stay away from cyber as most of us think cyber will be 'ong' in year 2017-2020 when most of the commercial activities are mature (skypark, pangaea, Perdana CBD 3, Promenade @8 waterfront shopping mall putrajaya, IOI resort city etc).

For me in summary,
1). F/H residential GnG with good concept is not much in klang valley.
2). Great accessibilities (20mins to KLCC via MEX, 15mins to IOI resort city mall via SKVE, 15 mins to puchong downtown via LDP, 20 mins to KLIA via ELITE). I know some KLCC professional, KLIA pilots and stewardess, IBM / Shell senior managers and Malaysian who works in Singapore bought SEG / SH.
3). Pricing is half of DPC, 30-40% lower than sime darby The Glades / MCT kingsley hills (15 mins drive away) - i did a pricing comparison for all landed prop in cyber previously.
4). Existing workforce in cyber (I.T industry) who will be the 1st batch potential users (yes, many still may not want to live in cyber now as no lifestyle as commented - but i think once commercial is mature this may change). however, if you read through this thread, you may find that alot of taikos here who is not working in cyber but just love the living environment.
5). Overall klang valley development is moving south which benefits cyber.
6). City is expanding outskirt no matter what due to increasing population (imagine that projects like setia eco hill in semenyih, kajang 2, bangi etc).

Just my 2 cents to share here and wish u good luck hunting.
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QUOTE(kmfong @ Jan 1 2013, 07:16 PM)
this Heriot watt uni malaysia campus got any positif impact to properties in cyber?


Added on January 1, 2013, 7:18 pmwhere r u our soros bro pls comment
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post Jan 1 2013, 11:17 PM

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I am just telling the truth ma....no hard sales here.....

QUOTE(xyyap @ Jan 1 2013, 10:03 PM)
U can be a top sales! Serious!

Most important, Soros007 is speaking the truth. Good to have long term investor like Soros007, noblebaby...
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post Jan 2 2013, 10:56 AM

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Wah lau eh... suddenly i feel very paiseh now....... share share cyber info and all of us HUAT together ma.

Disclaimer: I do not work for Setia Haruman to sell prop in Cyber smile.gif

QUOTE(chloelingeelin @ Jan 2 2013, 10:29 AM)
BIG rclxms.gif  rclxms.gif  rclxms.gif to you Soros007, you really know a lot about Cyberjaya, very informative thread and thanks for your effort  notworthy.gif
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post Jan 2 2013, 01:44 PM

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Cyber mosque? the one to be built next to Sepang city council? or part of the islamic royal univeristy area?

QUOTE(noblebaby @ Jan 2 2013, 01:02 PM)
I just found that the construction in Cyber is kinda slow... including the new Cyber Mosque...
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post Jan 2 2013, 02:12 PM

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That's what i saw in wikimapia.org too biggrin.gif

QUOTE(noblebaby @ Jan 2 2013, 02:06 PM)
Part of the Universiti Islam Di-Raja Malaysia, next to Majlis Perbandaran Sepang.
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post Jan 2 2013, 02:19 PM

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When the new prop pricing exceeds medium income work class affordability, the old prop with afforable price will be the next one to appreciate.... looking at Vista Komanwel currently...... F/H, MRT, good location, great accessibilities and still within general ppl affordability - RM 400K. worth to investigare further the subsale market? biggrin.gif

LAst point, so far, most of the residential project especially landed are mainly medium to high end type with G&G, facilities, etc ....so dont expect these to be cheap ...of course, I do hope that more affordable landed could be built but sometimes, the cost of buidling will force the develop to go highend landed or multi dwelling unit (Condo) to maximize the value .
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post Jan 2 2013, 09:08 PM

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Thanks bro noblebaby for the excellentt quality of cyberjaya master plan!

Extracted from the legend:
1). Perumahan kos rendah = 0.55%
2). Perumahan mampu milik = 2.44%
3). Perumahan kos tinggi = 14.25%
4). Perumahan bercampur = 3.2%
5). Perumahan telah dibangunkan (kos tinggi) = 1.05%
Jumlah kecil = 21.49%

As such, (1.05+14.25) / 21.49 x 100% = 71.19% of residential prop in cyber is HIGH END RESIDENTIAL!!!
Is this make sense why 1st phase of landed in most projects are asking > RM1.0mil+?
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QUOTE(noblebaby @ Jan 2 2013, 06:33 PM)
The area of the mosque is quite big as can be seen in the plan.

hope it will be another iconic structure in cyber.
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post Jan 2 2013, 09:28 PM

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99% of ppl who bought cyberjaya knows that it's not because of MSC status.
Foreign investment? think will be more suitable for local like PJ / Damansara.

QUOTE(Maknusia @ Jan 2 2013, 09:22 PM)
Hmmm, CBJ was build as a fort for MSC investments.

If the are is converted to residential area, do you think it will still prosper with foreign investments?

Apa pendapat anda?
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post Jan 2 2013, 09:46 PM

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Very true also bro!

[quote=xyyap,Jan 2 2013, 09:45 PM]
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the problem with Malaysia property is the poor maintenance....
>>> Agreed.

People who play low to medium cost properties are aware of this, even the yield is attractive but the price appreciation is capped.
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post Jan 3 2013, 08:39 AM

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Thanks bro for the info.
Passed by BJ couples times when using kesas.
So far havent visit Vista Komanwel yet hence no clue about the maintenance condition there.
Mainly students living there? From IMU only?

[quote=noblebaby,Jan 2 2013, 03:20 PM]
the problem with Malaysia property is the poor maintenance.... i visted Vista Komanwel last week, although there are some upgrading work going on but still look bad compared to 5-6 years ago. Student residences... dirty, and unsafe, many broke in.... asking 400k... the new development KM1 is selling at 800k.
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Added on January 3, 2013, 8:40 amNot a PR in Singapore. If buying a private condo Ah Gong charging 10% stamp duty for nothing - wtf! biggrin.gif

[quote=xyyap,Jan 2 2013, 10:04 PM]
This is why I think Malaysia rental yield not worth to play, u stand a high chance to face many lousy tenants.

Compare to Singapore, people here is kiasi, Ah Gong is everything & law is very strict, tenant dare not play dirty tricks with u.
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post Jan 3 2013, 08:57 AM

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Bro AMINT will be happy to hear that! biggrin.gif


[quote=noblebaby,Jan 3 2013, 08:48 AM]
Yes, many students, many mei mei too tongue.gif

Added on January 3, 2013, 8:40 amNot a PR in Singapore. If buying a private condo Ah Gong charging 10% stamp duty for nothing - wtf! biggrin.gif
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post Jan 3 2013, 11:57 AM

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In fact there is very little Chinese food in cyber.
Anybody knows where to get good quality western food?

QUOTE(jerry88 @ Jan 3 2013, 11:01 AM)
Is there any chinese food delivery in the area?
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post Jan 3 2013, 01:36 PM

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It's 3% rebate + london trip for the 2nd unit as told by SEG SA.
The rest i am not sure.

QUOTE(xyyap @ Jan 3 2013, 01:31 PM)
BBB!!!

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post Jan 3 2013, 02:01 PM

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unfortunately i need to spare some $$$ for wife to do shopping in London sad.gif
p/s: I got discount for Rm 50K+ and i knew it long time ago biggrin.gif

[quote=oreomambo,Jan 3 2013, 01:51 PM]Those are for left over units of Liu Li and Lepironia. From what i know, 3% rebate for buying 2nd unit for Lepironia , or 2% for Liu Li.

3% for Lepironia is almost a 50k rebate and taken off from the 10% dp. Provided if you are buying the 2nd unit. Incentive only targeting a very narrow group of soros class individuals.

Bro Soros, did u miss the boat?
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Added on January 3, 2013, 2:02 pmExterior - Tak boleh la..... smile.gif

quote=yrh0413,Jan 3 2013, 01:55 PM]
just curious... Setia Eco Glades units are individual title or strata? Renovation of building exterior allowed?
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Added on January 3, 2013, 2:04 pmIf Setia Eco Hills (Semenyih) is hot.....then Cyber (Sibeh-far-jaya) tak ada issue la.....
Future plan - MEX extended to Dengkil > ELITE > KLIA.
Klang valley development is moving south :0

[quote=xyyap,Jan 3 2013, 01:56 PM]
KL > PJ > Cyberjaya > Semenyih > Seremban...
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post Jan 3 2013, 02:23 PM

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Dont think can la.....if can ar..... relative + friends + myself = 7 units ler.... kekeke

QUOTE(xyyap @ Jan 3 2013, 02:11 PM)
If relative & friend buy entitle?
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post Jan 3 2013, 03:16 PM

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For Lepironia Garden, last update till X'mas.
Ludwigia -
Unit #1 to #4 (too close to guardhouse), ~6 units that is same row with club house (the back facing main roads / MCT lakefront), units #31- 34 (too close to the condo / roundabout).

The rest of Grasilis layout - semua habis smile.gif

QUOTE(oreomambo @ Jan 3 2013, 03:00 PM)
Hmm, as of mid nov, there were only about 4 more Liu Li left which i was contacted by SA.

2 x You Mei
2 x Huan Xi

All of them next to the road. Could be lesser now.

As for Lepironia, there were about 15 units left back then. Quite a number actually. None on the middle units, everything next to the road.

Anyone wanna let go island, let me know smile.gif . I wanna be Robinson Crusoe..
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Added on January 3, 2013, 4:15 pm10% might as well buy Aus prop.
Every 8 years the prop price in Aus is double up somemore rental is guarantee!
Most importantly - too many ppl migrating to Kangaroo land and housing is always shortage biggrin.gif

QUOTE(xyyap @ Jan 3 2013, 02:06 PM)
We PR Ah Gong also charge 3%. !@#$%^&*()
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post Jan 3 2013, 04:29 PM

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hehehe.... Yalor...i am sure that after Bro noblebaby shopping in pavillion then driving from MEX hwy > Lingkaran Putrajaya > Persiaran Bestari > Symphony Hills in less than 25 mins biggrin.gif
Dont think the internal road will serve SEG residence only la.
Facing guardhouse has no privacy la. Facing main road is noisy but has extra 80' orchard garden (can plant durian n campaing) + sounds barrier wall..ok gua?



QUOTE(oreomambo @ Jan 3 2013, 04:20 PM)
Yeah, somehow quite a lot of SP units in SEG are bordering the road, and they are not internal roads. Mostly are trunk roads like Persiaran Semarak Api, linkaran putrajaya. Even the road inside SEG might even get heavier traffic if folks are using it to shortcut from Semarak Api to Mex...unless the internal SEG road is only for residence.

With given the limited choices, those Ludwigia next to guardhouse might be the least risk to traffic noise as they serve vehicle only for the internal precinct.

Even those island units near the internal road separated by a small lakeside/longkang isn't spared by traffic noise.

Somehow high end residence usually have those high powered cars that comes with irritating decibels....
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post Jan 3 2013, 05:13 PM

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Bear for a little while bro since u r moving to cyber soon biggrin.gif

QUOTE(oreomambo @ Jan 3 2013, 04:58 PM)
My current residence is facing a trunk road at the rear. Definitely having more than 80 feet of greens now. Doesn't help alot with the noise. The wall might work a bit. Had to revamp the windows with sound absorption. Won't clear the sound fully. Those noise from revving trucks (low frequency), Ferrari and rempits still get into the bedroom from ceiling and hallow brick walls. Maybe i should move to space.
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