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 Why U buy Cyberjaya?

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Soros007
post Dec 18 2012, 10:53 AM

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I think cyber has lower crime rate especially snatch case is due to lesser illegal immigirants / foreigners / drug addicts and not by the CCTV.

QUOTE(1282009 @ Dec 18 2012, 10:29 AM)
Every street/corner comes with cctv .. this might explain why.
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post Dec 18 2012, 11:11 AM

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If i am buying condo in cyber - Mirage By The Lake will be my top pick!
Superb lake view and 1500ft2 is really a comfortable size for young couples.
Hopefully all cyber owners also 'HUAT' like your friends in future when cyber turns up to be a vibrant city in 2017-2020.
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QUOTE(chloelingeelin @ Dec 18 2012, 10:58 AM)
ya, dont know if it is worth the price or not for a 1500sf unit costs over a mil, but looking at property price in PJ or KL also increased crazily over past few years, so it's still reasonable lah(for me and husband). Most importantly we are actually looking at the location and environment in cyberjaya, peaceful and very conducive for own stay, we are terrified by the security issues in PJ or KL area, almost all friends kena snatched, some even few times kena already, i dont want to carry pepper spray whenever i go out ler, hihi.... 
ya, to my surprise, quote a lot of them bought houses in cyberjaya, my husband has been staying in cyberjaya for 10 years, he always get people's reaction as "huh? you stay in cyberjaya? aiyo... ghost town ler.." ya that was 10 years ago lah, nowadays whoever still think the same pls come to cyberjaya and have a look.
really? i don't know about this ler  rclxms.gif
not because of high income or whatsoever lah, houses/condo in PJ or KL area also expensive like hell, but we dont want to stay in a place that everyday have to deal with traffic jam, mak rempit or snatch thieves lah. This is also why we opted for condo instead of landed. One of my husband's friend who bought a piece of land in cyberjaya 10 years ago with the price of 700k, spent few more hundred K to build his own bungalow, now the house worth few millions, he got vision lah, now 'huat' lor....
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post Dec 18 2012, 11:14 AM

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Not sure about you i always feel like 25 years old.
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QUOTE(noblebaby @ Dec 18 2012, 11:13 AM)
yeah. all huat.

bro, by 2017-2020 we will be 40 already  mad.gif  cry.gif
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post Dec 18 2012, 11:30 AM

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Just kidding - baby = lesser hair??? biggrin.gif
true lor...start going into 40 yrs old liau by then.....
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QUOTE(noblebaby @ Dec 18 2012, 11:21 AM)
i am always 1, that's why i called myself baby  tongue.gif  rclxms.gif  icon_rolleyes.gif
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post Dec 18 2012, 11:39 AM

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Mainly Mana Ada System (MAS) and Air Asia pilots right? lol....hehehe

QUOTE(chloelingeelin @ Dec 18 2012, 11:35 AM)
nolah, my husband bought the current house 10 years ago and has been staying in the house until now, last year bought another one MBTL lor.. ya D'Melor got a lot pilot there, my husband wanted to buy D'Melor 10 years ago but the launching price that time for this condo is a bit too high lah, that time couldn't afford, hehe...
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post Dec 18 2012, 12:14 PM

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Hahaha.... Correct x3!!!

QUOTE(chloelingeelin @ Dec 18 2012, 11:48 AM)
yalah, Mana Ada System(MAS) or Mesti Ada Saudara(MAS), how people talk bad about MAS or regardless how they manage the company, being a pilot with them indeed has gotten us few houses in 10 years time lah, no complaints.
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post Dec 18 2012, 02:48 PM

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No problem bro - FOC for u biggrin.gif
Too be honest unless the shop lots in cyberjaya are selling at 30-40% cheaper than established area such as kuchai lama / seri Petaling/ puchong / sunway etc else existing shoplots at mature area will be a better investment biggrin.gif
slightly expensive also never mind wor.
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QUOTE(xyyap @ Dec 18 2012, 02:34 PM)
Soros007 buy shop houses, rent low low for me to open kopi-tiam chain. On?
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post Dec 18 2012, 03:02 PM

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Lol...wakakaka.... icon_idea.gif

QUOTE(xyyap @ Dec 18 2012, 02:51 PM)
Boay tahan. Haha.
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post Dec 18 2012, 03:11 PM

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Ooi bro.. 50 is a bit late la..... imagine that you are driving a convertible car but botak..mana ada fun???


QUOTE(xyyap @ Dec 18 2012, 03:04 PM)
Life starts from 50!!!
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post Dec 18 2012, 09:35 PM

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Like!!!
Wakakakaka......lol....
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QUOTE(xyyap @ Dec 18 2012, 09:32 PM)
Mid 30s lah...

Life starts from 50!!! When we have done the most important investment, our kids!
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post Dec 19 2012, 06:46 AM

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The phrase of the day - LIKE!!!

QUOTE(AMINT @ Dec 18 2012, 11:15 PM)
That sounds like a v.iagra ad =" Life starts at 50 but not your manhood.Use v.iagra"
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Added on December 19, 2012, 6:48 amMe too - purposely drive From KLCC to cyber for coffee also...... Relax n comfortable feeling in starbucks.
If there is "tong-Sui" shop on cyber then it is really ichiban lar biggrin.gif
QUOTE(fkfk @ Dec 18 2012, 11:23 PM)
u r super baby tongue.gif


Added on December 18, 2012, 11:37 pmnowadays i purposely  drive to cyber for a cup of coffee,.....
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Added on December 19, 2012, 6:54 amBro noblebably is already a millionaire at 30 lor so this doesn't apply to him! biggrin.gif
Actually 40 is not that old ler if u are a regular gym visitor.
Bro n sister here mind to share at what age you made ur first million (Rm)?

QUOTE(chloelingeelin @ Dec 19 2012, 12:27 AM)
nolah, 50 too old, 40 just nice, for men rclxms.gif for women, life should start at 30! cos 20 years old too young to enjoy life, plus no money, 40 years got money but already old and ugly, husband starts looking for young mistress outside, haha..
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Added on December 19, 2012, 6:55 amTrue also la very very long term investment = min 5 yrs lor.


QUOTE(legendaryborned @ Dec 19 2012, 01:53 AM)
I believe if you foresee the future.

Cyberjaya would be a good options.

But, probably a very very long term investment.
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post Dec 19 2012, 07:15 AM

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Absolutely agreed! biggrin.gif

QUOTE(noblebaby @ Dec 19 2012, 07:12 AM)
Haha. Bro soros. Actually millionaire with more than US1mil net worth is quite common especially in singapore.  U r also one of them tongue.gif

I think cyber need another 7 to 8 years before its life begins.

40 or 50 is ok as long as stay healthy.
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Added on December 19, 2012, 11:01 amBro XYYAP / Noblebaby,

Can we actually use singapore bank (singapore interest) to pay the mortgage in M'sia?

thanks


QUOTE(Soros007 @ Dec 19 2012, 07:15 AM)
Absolutely agreed! biggrin.gif
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post Dec 19 2012, 02:18 PM

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tong-pak-fu s*cks la especially 1000 times dislike their ambassador - soh XX.
we suggest the honeymoon dessert to be opened in cyber la.....
Classy dessert for classy living ernvironment ma biggrin.gif
ichiban then!!! kekekeke

QUOTE(xyyap @ Dec 19 2012, 02:05 PM)
U open one tong-pak-fu, we will go & support.
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post Dec 19 2012, 02:21 PM

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According to Tong-Pak-Fu ambassador - our malaysian food s*cks.
So setting up this bz in cyber wont attract the patriotic Malaysians to taste biggrin.gif

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oYDP-9xERqw


QUOTE(fkfk @ Dec 19 2012, 02:06 PM)
Yes.we bought it because of our beloved family,G&G and good environment


Added on December 19, 2012, 2:11 pm
Yes,I also will come to support brother Soros007
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Added on December 19, 2012, 2:25 pmJust found out that SGP can offer bank loan (2%) for Aus Prop (6%)...suddenly lots of my Aus prop installments turns up to be postive ++ wipee!!!
2012 is a good year hahaha.


QUOTE(xyyap @ Dec 19 2012, 02:19 PM)
No way. Even Singapore banks do offer the loan, they will charge u like Malaysia's interest.

Believe properties loan is following central bank rule & interest. Anyone can clarify?
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post Dec 19 2012, 02:57 PM

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I will say at the mmoment AUD is too high.
Best to wait AUD / USD ~ 0.90 then converting all of them into SGD at one go ....then it makes money from exchange rate + interest rate!

QUOTE(xyyap @ Dec 19 2012, 02:40 PM)
Australia savings & mortgage is at record high, the risk is very high for normal people like me.

Believe u are rich & smart enough to play this game:

http://www.expatsingapore.com/forum/index.php?topic=65999.0
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post Dec 19 2012, 03:33 PM

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Attached Image 1). Example of interest rate savings:-
Loan in Aus is 5.79% now but if u refinance in SGP then it's 4.00% (AUD with no risks) or 2.00% (SGD with currency exchange risks).
so u save (5.79-4.00) = 1.79% (AUD) with no currency risks OR
(5.79% - 2.00%) = 3.79% with SGD currency risks.

2). Example of currency exchange:-
AUD/USD spot exchange rate now is 1.05 (way too high and over-value in my opinion).
Say, u wait until USD strengthen against AUD.
u have AUD 1 mil mortgage and u change all ur AUD to USD at 0.90 > (Mortgage = USD 900K).
6 mths later AUD/USD becomes 1.05 OR USD / AUD = 0.9524 then u can change USD 900K to AUD = AUD 857K.
So, in 6 mths time your mortgage reduced from AUD 1mil to AUD 857K = AUD 143K savings.
Refer to the graph that attached - possible to do few rounds in 1-2 yrs and you can see how much you can save!

total benefits = AUD 143K + interest savings from (1) + currency risks fluctuation risks.
Note - Buy at AUD/USD 0.90+ and sell at AUD/USD 1.07+ is possible however just a friendly reminder - FX speculation is a very high risks thing and may not suitable for everyone.

QUOTE(noblebaby @ Dec 19 2012, 03:02 PM)
how much to convert in order to see meaningful gain?
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Added on December 19, 2012, 3:37 pmThey buy the exchange rate from bank which is usually spot market + 20-30 pips then selling you with additional min 200pips.
So, 200 pips = 2 cents x amount exchanged = profits.

QUOTE(noblebaby @ Dec 19 2012, 03:03 PM)
bro soros, do you know how the small indian money changer make $?
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post Dec 19 2012, 04:00 PM

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Bro Noblebaby,
Just to share. Recently i just closed a contract (personal trade).
Bought AUD at 0.97+ (Jun) and sold at 1.04 (Aug) = (1.04-0.97) x USD 2mil = USD140K profits + carry trade (gross of 3.25%-0.25%) = 3.0% x USD 2 mil x 2.5 mths = USD 12K+ as interest gained only biggrin.gif
p/s; Leverage of 1 to 10.

If we have patient in FX and treat it as long term investment, can make some fairly good money too however it's not suitable for everyone la.
Just my 2 cents la.... thumbup.gif

QUOTE(noblebaby @ Dec 19 2012, 03:42 PM)
yes, FX is high risk ler... not easy buy 0.90 and sell 1.07  tongue.gif
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Added on December 19, 2012, 4:07 pm
QUOTE(Soros007 @ Dec 19 2012, 04:00 PM)
Bro Noblebaby,
Just to share. Recently i just closed a contract (personal trade).
Bought AUD at 0.97+ (Jun) and sold at 1.04 (Aug) = (1.04-0.97) x USD 2mil = USD140K profits + carry trade (gross of 3.25%-0.25%) = 3.0% x USD 2 mil x 2.5 mths = USD 12K+ as interest gained only biggrin.gif
p/s; Leverage of 1 to 10.
 
If we have patient in FX and treat it as long term investment, can make some fairly good money too however it's not suitable for everyone la.
Just my 2 cents la....  thumbup.gif
Btw, I am waiting AUD/USD hit 1.06 and short it..... hehehe...


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post Dec 19 2012, 04:14 PM

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I am using Warren Buffett theory in FX - Buy at under value and sell at over value + long term holding power - same principle that we invested cyberjaya real estate. AUD/USD is favoured with SHORT now (over value) however still best to wait for a while first........ 1.06-1.07 yeah!

QUOTE(noblebaby @ Dec 19 2012, 04:09 PM)
huiyuh! u rich!

My expertise is in stock trading. only can use margin account with smaller leveraging compared to FX.

Long term is one thing, luck and timing is another thing. we knew it.  tongue.gif

i saw ur chart, no diff from stock. but buy at 0.90 really need to wait long long  tongue.gif  rclxms.gif
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post Dec 19 2012, 04:40 PM

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arhh.... not going to hijack bro XYYAP thread by teaching FX here.
Many methods to justify 'over value' and it's far more complicated than equity especially it involved one country's central bank policies such as interest rate etc. However one of the simpliest thing isu sing McDonalds as a bench mark.
One happy meal in US with respect to happy meal in Aus after the currency conversion.
Interest rate related to hot money is also one of the key factors in FX.
I am still a learner in FX anyway. notworthy.gif notworthy.gif notworthy.gif

QUOTE(noblebaby @ Dec 19 2012, 04:26 PM)
how to see the currency is under value? Stock we can look at NAV, PE, PB, Yield, bla bla bla.
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post Dec 19 2012, 09:42 PM

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Wakakaka.... Sorry sorry out of topic bro xYYAP please forgive ya hehehe.... biggrin.gif


QUOTE(xyyap @ Dec 19 2012, 09:13 PM)
Nah nah nah, Eco Hill people laugh at us liao. Hehe.

Just to share:
I have a Singapore friend who do Forex trade too, his trade profit or loss per month, can buy or loss few bungalow lot @ Eco Hill.

He shared quite a lot knowledge with us. But I am not sharing here. High risk, not for working employee like me.
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