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chipotato
post Feb 3 2013, 10:26 PM

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its expensive cause he not only change spark plug but with genuine spark plug cable..
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post Feb 3 2013, 10:45 PM

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QUOTE(Samurai X @ Feb 3 2013, 10:05 PM)
ahpaul82
Thanks for sharing.
Wah! Proton ori spark plug is so expensive. I can buy brisk spark plug already.

You get your car done in PESC Desa Tun Razak?
Just curios, error code B1003-41 is a symptom of clock spring almost end of life span?
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i'm not sure, the technician there can't explain this to me also...
(look junior)

but according to HERE,

affected model only on Proton Gen.2 1.6 A/T with auto-cruise function and Satria Neo 1.6 A/T with auto-cruise function,
manufactured between April, 2004 to June, 2008. These models may possibly carry defective Clock Springs.

Mine Manual does not have Auto-Cruise function.

i got my car check at WORLD CAR CARE SERVICES SDN BHD

QUOTE(chipotato @ Feb 3 2013, 10:26 PM)
its expensive cause he not only change spark plug but with genuine spark plug cable..
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No,

the price showed is for genuine plug cable only,

i changed back to stock spark plugs where only used 17k-km.

anyhow, stock spark plug very cheap only, <RM10 per piece.
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post Feb 3 2013, 11:03 PM

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I got this reply from Proton :

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This post has been edited by ahpaul82: Feb 3 2013, 11:05 PM
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post Feb 3 2013, 11:16 PM

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QUOTE(ahpaul82 @ Feb 3 2013, 11:03 PM)
I got this reply from Proton :

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of course now fine you already repair the problem isnt. i still havent change my coil. already more than 160k. time to change? so far no prob. about the plug cable i think cps is very good cable for a standard cable. gcc listed changing plug cable as one of the mod. i dont think our cps needs that upgrade. i once tried r3 plug cable. no difference so just sold it and put back standard plug cable.
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QUOTE(fazron80 @ Feb 3 2013, 11:16 PM)
of course now fine you already repair the problem isnt. i still havent change my coil. already more than 160k. time to change? so far no prob. about the plug cable i think cps is very good cable for a standard cable. gcc listed changing plug cable as one of the mod. i dont think our cps needs that upgrade. i once tried r3 plug cable. no difference so just sold it and put back standard plug cable.
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Technician only clear the AirBag error code,

he can't explain to me why this error message is in History,

and i do not wish to see this error message or indicator lights up in future ! laugh.gif

your ignition coil why need change if no problem?
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post Feb 4 2013, 11:53 AM

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QUOTE(ahpaul82 @ Feb 1 2013, 04:55 PM)
Hey guys,

anyone interested to bulk purchase below item?

[Oxygen sensor] Lambda Sensor (PW811631) 

Waja CPS/Gen2 CPS same use.

Price i can get is RM180/pc,

Genuine Proton Spare Parts.

I'm going to replace mine soon.
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QUOTE(ahpaul82 @ Feb 3 2013, 02:05 PM)
My car having symptoms of a failing oxygen sensor includes:
Sensor Light on dash indicates problem
Increased fuel consumption
Hesitation on acceleration

First time Engine Check Light turn on during Sept2012 when i'm going Cameron Highlands,
that time mileage around 98k+ km.
after that the ECL suka suka lights up until now.
i believe the O2 Sensor is the culprit.
this one:
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QUOTE(ahpaul82 @ Feb 3 2013, 03:50 PM)
Hey guys,

some story to share, I guess some of you notice my car break down a week+ ago in Taman Connaught around 11pm when i was on my way to my girl house.

symptoms of failure:

- engine suddenly lost power.
- engine making boor boor boor sound when acceleration.
- car jerking like hell at low RPM.

Manage to pull my car at roadside,
(die die drive it out of the main Connaught Highway)

seeking advice from a friend and he suspect is the spark plugs failure after listen my description.

call my girl and wanted she come fetch me back home take tools because i wanted to remove spark plugs by myself and so late night all workshop closed. 

After get the tools and spare stock spark plugs,

first and second spark plugs remove successfully,
(very very tight)

when i try to remove the third plug cable,

bad thing happened, the plug cable front portion broken !
(first, second and fourth remove easily)

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Suspected the inconsistent voltage supply cause spark plug cable broken.
(die die drive back to safe place)

due to i don't have long nose pliers, i have to leave my car overnight there..........
since one of the Spark Plug cable broken, it must replace,

got price quoted from a friend who selling Genuine Proton Spare Parts,

Kindly take note the standard Campro Spark Plug Cable is different compare with Campro CPS Spark Plug,

if same use why Proton come out two different part number at the first place, right? 

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after bought spark plug cable back to my car,

hands was so tired yesterday eventually seeking help from a workshop nearby,

paying a workmanship service to remove and re-install stock spark plugs and cable. 

at last car back to vroom vroom mode! 
on the way back home my car suffering low RPM (1.8k rpm - 2.8k rpm) jerking badly !

at first i thought is the stock plugs issue, after back home do one round internet research,

it could be a possible Ignition Coil faulty !

As understand our car ignition coil is under brand Bosch,

a quick search in mudah.my,

got one seller selling wrongly bought ignition coil,

with no further hesitate i drive to Kg Keramat and COD with him at the same day, deal with great price.

A short discuss with that guy he also driving a Gen2,

but his problem is on the plug cable but bought the ignition coil as standby unit in case his car ignition coil rosak also.

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Chit Chat finished fast fast back home DIY,

took me two hours to replace the ignition coil,

start engine and a short drive nearby,

Viola ! no more jerking at low RPM !!!

personal feeling is that the car feel more solid in whole rpm range with less vibration.

Total cost to replace both items:
Genuine Proton Spark Plug Cable = RM270
Workmanship = RM10
Bosch Ignition Coil = RM100
Total = RM380.

the stock spark plugs would be temporary usage, will get it change back to Iridium Spark Plugs soon. 

Notice the faulty spark plug?
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Terminal damaged...

Ignition System consist below three items:
- Spark Plug
- Spark Plug Cable
- Ignition Coil

got it all check if you feel abnormal on your car.
After replaced all the parts,

i guess is necessary to pay a visit to Service Center for Proton Advance Diagnostic Tool (PADT) checking,

the guy plug in the PADT tool into ODBII Port,

using WiFi to connect with his laptop.

the guy help me clear all the errors detected in off engine status.

re-check again in Engine Cranked. 

below are the error screenshots i capture:

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O2 Sensor giving Engine Check Light turn on intermittently,

it could be in no so good condition already. 

The Technician mention if this indicate light up again is time to replace the sensor.

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the ABS indicator light up after last time Dyno due to front wheel rolling only when Dyno-ing, not a big issue i guess.

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this error, no idea what is that..

but i never see this indicator lights up before. 

charges for checking is RM60.
Apologize for long winded,

just sharing and Thanks for watching.  laugh.gif
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hummm...paul, i just change my spark plug...vvery new...the O2 sensor ya?i think i wanna bulk too....then my thermostat osso probably almost die...drive fast on highway at night the temperature level goes to the coolest... doh.gif ...i dont facing any jerking or similar...just,if i whack more 4.8k rpm the engine check will On..hummm....
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CPS really need to whack? Last time I always rev '99' engine feels very light. Now I drive mostly below 100km/h.
When I try to push over 4k rpm, car feel sluggish. Maybe ECU become lazy. Just service with 10w-40 Eneos some more sweat.gif

I just DIY installing oil catch tank connecting the PCV. During idle, car got hissing sound. Idle rpm also 920. Is this normal idle
rpm for CPS?
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post Feb 5 2013, 12:28 AM

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broahpaul thanks for the info. Like doing case study. Request to put it on front page.

Bro samurai x my idle was set around 1k rpm ++ a bit. But I think 920rpm couldn't harm anything.

Btw bro wat if the function for OCT? Said it recommend to always hi revving engine. Got shop in jb selling rm60 but not including install. Is it easy to install?

Now I like to do diy or "pomen" my car whenever I got free time..it make me feel sastisfied when the project is working & can get to know more about cars.

Thanks
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broahpaul thanks for the info. Like doing case study. Request to put it on front page.

Bro samurai x my idle was set around 1k rpm ++ a bit. But I think 920rpm couldn't harm anything.

Btw bro wat if the function for OCT? Said it recommend to always hi revving engine. Got shop in jb selling rm60 but not including install. Is it easy to install?

Now I like to do diy or "pomen" my car whenever I got free time..it make me feel sastisfied when the project is working & can get to know more about cars.

Thanks
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post Feb 5 2013, 07:55 AM

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During high rev, OCT help to catch the excessive engine oil which come out from the pcv valve to manifold. This will keep the intake manifold clean.
If you stand in front of the car, PCV hose is located at the left side of the engine head. The right side with bigger hose is breather which go back into
air intake. I am planning to install 2 oil catch tank and see how is it laugh.gif
Will post the picture soon as I am still learning the Campro CPS engine.

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QUOTE(R.Y.D.E.C.K @ Feb 4 2013, 11:53 AM)
hummm...paul, i just change my spark plug...vvery new...the O2 sensor ya?i think i wanna bulk too....then my thermostat osso probably almost die...drive fast on highway at night the temperature level goes to the coolest... doh.gif ...i dont facing any jerking or similar...just,if i whack more 4.8k rpm the engine check will  On..hummm....
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hmm...i thought you just serviced your throttle body recently right?

Does Service Center people inform you what is the error code cause Engine Check Light On also?


QUOTE(Samurai X @ Feb 4 2013, 08:24 PM)
CPS really need to whack? Last time I always rev '99' engine feels very light. Now I drive mostly below 100km/h.
When I try to push over 4k rpm, car feel sluggish. Maybe ECU become lazy. Just service with 10w-40 Eneos some more  sweat.gif

I just DIY installing oil catch tank connecting the PCV. During idle, car got hissing sound. Idle rpm also 920. Is this normal idle
rpm for CPS?
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photo, photo. tongue.gif

QUOTE(TripleJ104 @ Feb 5 2013, 12:35 AM)
broahpaul thanks for the info. Like doing case study. Request to put it on front page.

Bro samurai x my idle was set around 1k rpm ++ a bit. But I think 920rpm couldn't harm anything.

Btw bro wat if the function for OCT? Said it recommend to always hi revving engine. Got shop in jb selling rm60 but not including install. Is it easy to install?

Now I like to do diy or "pomen" my car whenever I got free time..it make me feel sastisfied when the project is working & can get to know more about cars.

Thanks
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Sharing is Caring mah laugh.gif

my neighbour park beside me see me always do something with my car,

Praise me I'm sure is a car enthusiast laugh.gif
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For Gen2 CPS owner,

anyone willing to share the cost of getting the Gen2 CPS WorkShop Manual?

Attached File  sample_Engine_Overhaul_CPS.pdf ( 495.49k ) Number of downloads: 360


the more peoples share, the less money we pay for each person.


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QUOTE(ahpaul82 @ Feb 5 2013, 09:24 AM)
For Gen2 CPS owner,

anyone willing to share the cost of getting the Gen2 CPS WorkShop Manual?

Attached File  sample_Engine_Overhaul_CPS.pdf ( 495.49k ) Number of downloads: 360


the more peoples share, the less money we pay for each person.
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err whats a workshop manual? same manual like we get when buy car or something else.
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QUOTE(ahpaul82 @ Feb 5 2013, 09:24 AM)
For Gen2 CPS owner,

anyone willing to share the cost of getting the Gen2 CPS WorkShop Manual?

Attached File  sample_Engine_Overhaul_CPS.pdf ( 495.49k ) Number of downloads: 360


the more peoples share, the less money we pay for each person.
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nice workshop manual..
can get neo cps workshop manual also? rolleyes.gif
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QUOTE(fazron80 @ Feb 5 2013, 09:50 AM)
err whats a workshop manual? same manual like we get when buy car or something else.
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thats user manual.

this 1 very details manual.. thats y its call workshop manual.. u can find how to disassemble, reassemble, diagnostic, tools to use (sst), detail measuring, n alot more..
every element about the car can be found. usually got 3 segment: chassis, engine, wiring.

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QUOTE(fazron80 @ Feb 5 2013, 09:50 AM)
err whats a workshop manual? same manual like we get when buy car or something else.
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Nope, what Max explained is correct.

QUOTE(Max @ Feb 5 2013, 09:54 AM)
nice workshop manual..
can get neo cps workshop manual also?  rolleyes.gif
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Yup, Satria Neo CPS available as well,
You need look for other member to share with you to purchase it as the cost of owning that workshop manual alone is not cheap..
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QUOTE(ahpaul82 @ Feb 5 2013, 10:53 AM)
Nope, what Max explained is correct.
Yup, Satria Neo CPS available as well,
You need look for other member to share with you to purchase it as the cost of owning that workshop manual alone is not cheap..
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izzit hardcopy or softcopy/PDF?
how much? pls PM me. tq.
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QUOTE(Max @ Feb 5 2013, 10:57 AM)
izzit hardcopy or softcopy/PDF?
how much? pls PM me. tq.
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Is a software copy/PDF version,
Will PM you the details later. smile.gif
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QUOTE(ahpaul82 @ Feb 5 2013, 11:06 AM)
Is a software copy/PDF version,
Will PM you the details later. smile.gif
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count me in for bulk. but if price to high i need to rethink.
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PM sent !

come come guys.. biggrin.gif


P/S: I'm not sure whether have Waja CPS or not...


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