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TripleJ104
post Jan 29 2013, 10:06 PM

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QUOTE(yazneo @ Jan 29 2013, 02:52 PM)
Satria Neo CPS
YazYR solid white 9940
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Welcome..Please feel free to enjoy posting inside this thread.


If u dont mind where are your location?
TripleJ104
post Jan 29 2013, 10:10 PM

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QUOTE(Samurai X @ Jan 29 2013, 09:34 PM)
Last year rm80 in PESC Desa Tun Razak. Not sure if price increased already.
Maybe you can check G Car Care Facebook for their PADT scanning price.
Done with multi-tester. Not sure if I can just DIY with original fan or replace with high speed fan which is noisy and generate more vibration and air.
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Gcar care said they can reflash ECU. Maybe can check it out.

Is it easy or not to diy changing or upgrade fan? In jb now are hot...if upgrade fan dunno is necessary or not
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QUOTE(yazneo @ Jan 29 2013, 02:52 PM)
Satria Neo CPS
YazYR solid white 9940
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Welcome.
Make sure to post actively. We keep this thread alive thumbup.gif


QUOTE(TripleJ104 @ Jan 29 2013, 10:10 PM)
Gcar care said they can reflash ECU. Maybe can check it out.

Is it easy or not to diy changing or upgrade fan? In jb now are hot...if upgrade fan dunno is necessary or not
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G Car Care is charging 250 for Campro ECU reflash but I am not sure if its only for 32bit or 16bit ECU. Waja CPS is on 16bit, right?
I am planning to get my car done after basic mod complete.

DIY the fan is easy. I already installed on many peoples' car.
1. Unplug the power source
2. Open up 4 screw at each corner (prepare 8 & 10 size spanner. Can be bought at kedai 2 hengget laugh.gif )
3. Release or unhook the air-con hose from the holder
4. Pull up and bingo!
I find out sticking a think layer of sponge(5mmx3mm) along the 4 side of the radiator and inserting a piping rubber on the screw before
slotting it actually works well to absorb some vibration from high speed fan. Nothing can be done on the noisy sound la.

If too hot, can re-route the cool air-con air to the air intake. one after air filter but before the butterly, cool air more oxygen brows.gif
A friend DIY tebuk firewall at the air-con area and throttle body, connect both with 8mm silicone hose. Cool and cold.
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post Jan 30 2013, 08:32 AM

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QUOTE(yazneo @ Jan 29 2013, 02:52 PM)
Satria Neo CPS
YazYR solid white 9940
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Welcome bro.... rclxms.gif

QUOTE(Samurai X @ Jan 30 2013, 07:27 AM)
Welcome.
Make sure to post actively. We keep this thread alive  thumbup.gif
G Car Care is charging 250 for Campro ECU reflash but I am not sure if its only for 32bit or 16bit ECU. Waja CPS is on 16bit, right?
I am planning to get my car done after basic mod complete.

DIY the fan is easy. I already installed on many peoples' car.
1. Unplug the power source
2. Open up 4 screw at each corner (prepare 8 & 10 size spanner. Can be bought at kedai 2 hengget  laugh.gif )
3. Release or unhook the air-con hose from the holder
4. Pull up and bingo!
I find out sticking a think layer of sponge(5mmx3mm) along the 4 side of the radiator and inserting a piping rubber on the screw before
slotting it actually works well to absorb some vibration from high speed fan. Nothing can be done on the noisy sound la.

If too hot, can re-route the cool air-con air to the air intake. one after air filter but before the butterly, cool air more oxygen  brows.gif
A friend DIY tebuk firewall at the air-con area and throttle body, connect both with 8mm silicone hose. Cool and cold.
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what is the purpose of ecu reflash?
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post Jan 30 2013, 08:45 AM

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QUOTE(TripleJ104 @ Jan 29 2013, 10:06 PM)
Welcome..Please feel free to enjoy posting inside this thread.
If u dont mind where are your location?
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Kemaman, Terengganu.
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post Jan 30 2013, 08:48 AM

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yup G Car care
charge rm250
my planning maybe
change cam n crank pulley + ecu tuning.
IS it can see any perf increase?
how many horse pwr
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post Jan 30 2013, 09:05 AM

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QUOTE(Samurai X @ Jan 30 2013, 07:27 AM)
Welcome.
Make sure to post actively. We keep this thread alive  thumbup.gif
G Car Care is charging 250 for Campro ECU reflash but I am not sure if its only for 32bit or 16bit ECU. Waja CPS is on 16bit, right?
I am planning to get my car done after basic mod complete.

DIY the fan is easy. I already installed on many peoples' car.
1. Unplug the power source
2. Open up 4 screw at each corner (prepare 8 & 10 size spanner. Can be bought at kedai 2 hengget  laugh.gif )
3. Release or unhook the air-con hose from the holder
4. Pull up and bingo!
I find out sticking a think layer of sponge(5mmx3mm) along the 4 side of the radiator and inserting a piping rubber on the screw before
slotting it actually works well to absorb some vibration from high speed fan. Nothing can be done on the noisy sound la.

If too hot, can re-route the cool air-con air to the air intake. one after air filter but before the butterly, cool air more oxygen  brows.gif
A friend DIY tebuk firewall at the air-con area and throttle body, connect both with 8mm silicone hose. Cool and cold.
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it's good to have cool air in air intake..as what i know, for combustion we need air that not to hot and to cold. there are range of air that will help to improve perfect combustion. said that you fren taking air from air con area, think it's not good to engine because water content..can effect engine in future..maybe for the 1st install good, improve respond.
- opinion just base on what i know. if you have better hope shall share.. smile.gif
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post Jan 30 2013, 09:53 AM

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QUOTE(yazneo @ Jan 30 2013, 08:45 AM)
Kemaman, Terengganu.
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Orang nganggu..mesti kete power.

QUOTE(Evil Oracle @ Jan 30 2013, 08:48 AM)
yup G Car care
charge rm250
my planning maybe
change cam n crank pulley + ecu tuning.
IS it can see any perf increase?
how many horse pwr
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Emmm u left out intake & exhaust upgrade..this 2 thing really improve your car a lot than ACP & LCP.

QUOTE(yazneo @ Jan 30 2013, 09:05 AM)
it's good to have cool air in air intake..as what i know, for combustion we need air that not to hot and to cold. there are range of air that will help to improve perfect combustion. said that you fren taking air from air con area, think it's not good to engine because water content..can effect engine in future..maybe for the 1st install good, improve respond.
- opinion just base on what i know. if you have better hope shall share.. smile.gif
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Ooooo...thanks for sharing.

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post Jan 30 2013, 09:58 AM

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QUOTE(TripleJ104 @ Jan 30 2013, 09:53 AM)
Orang nganggu..mesti kete power.
Emmm u left out intake & exhaust upgrade..this 2 thing really improve your car a lot than ACP & LCP.
Ooooo...thanks for sharing.
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ooo OK2
but
i dont want bising2 la can change the cat oni?
yazneo
post Jan 30 2013, 10:21 AM

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QUOTE(TripleJ104 @ Jan 30 2013, 09:53 AM)
Orang nganggu..mesti kete power.
Emmm u left out intake & exhaust upgrade..this 2 thing really improve your car a lot than ACP & LCP.
Ooooo...thanks for sharing.
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not power la bro..standard ori je..go and back to work only...plan to sell...
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post Jan 30 2013, 10:36 AM

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QUOTE(yazneo @ Jan 30 2013, 10:21 AM)
not power la bro..standard ori je..go and back to work only...plan to sell...
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haha..next upgrade?ambe bile lalu ctu set2 keta powa nih sokmo ajok main ekekeke...
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post Jan 30 2013, 10:43 AM

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QUOTE(R.Y.D.E.C.K @ Jan 30 2013, 10:36 AM)
haha..next upgrade?ambe bile lalu ctu set2 keta powa nih sokmo ajok main ekekeke...
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itu sume bdak br knal kete bro.tkar ezos saje pun dh rasa power..skarang rmai yg skolah ag dh pkai kete, siap bleh modified..kite kerja pkir 2,3 kali..
goind to upgrade only 2nd car but higher performance..he3...
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QUOTE(yazneo @ Jan 30 2013, 10:43 AM)
itu sume bdak br knal kete bro.tkar ezos saje pun dh rasa power..skarang rmai yg skolah ag dh pkai kete, siap bleh modified..kite kerja pkir 2,3 kali..
goind to upgrade only 2nd car but higher performance..he3...
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kids? doh.gif ......... 2nd car?nice thumbup.gif
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" ................Hi all. My brother's car (Gen-2 1.6 MT year 2004) got overheated because of thermostat failure. After he changed the thermostat(original proton) the engine goes well for about 2 months then it got overheated again also because of thermostat failure. He changed the thermostat(ori proton) and do the top overhaul but the engine got overheated during the test by the mechanic. The mechanic expected the engine head got warped. He said usually Campro head cannot be skimmed but he knows a machine shop who can skim the Campro head perfectly and he claimed he has done 3 similar cases before without any further issues. After the engine got skimmed, the mechanic also cleans the radiator and change the water pump. After the engine head been reinstalled the mechanic found out the RPM got crazy(went up and down crazily). He went for compression ratio check and did the retuning but still got the RPM problem. Later he took out the thermostat and the RPM problem settled. Later got new problem, the Check Engine light will start to turn on once the the engine reaching 3500rpm. My brother went back to the mechanic for few times but still no change. He also tried to bring his car to other mechanics but still got the problem. The temperature is fine, never exceeding 90 degree celsius, but during driving it went lower than usual. But my brother cannot drive his car calmly as the Check Engine light still turned on once the RPM went 3500. Any opinion sifus?
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2. "..............The diagnostic(as well as the tuning) has being done at proton SC after the first time Check Engine light turned on(the mechanic brought it there since he didn't have the diagnostic tool) and it detected the sensor failure(or something like that, I can't recall) but when the sensor being replaced, nothing changed so the car went back to the Proton SC for diagnostic and again it detected sensor error. This happened few times(and back to Proton SC for diagnostic). Finally we changed all the suspected sensor but still the Check Engine light turned on. My brother try to ask an opinion from another mechanic(other workshop) and the mechanic said as for the sensor it might be the Knock Sensor failure since he said from his experience, sometimes after the top overhaul(during dismantle and reassemble) the sensor might being damaged.
I've done my own research on the internet(2carpros.com) and I found out that they claimed "When a thermostat malfunctions it can stick in the closed position not allowing the coolant to circulate, causing the engine to overheat. This will cause the vehicle to overheat in a very short amount of time (about 5 minutes). Or the thermostat could stick open causing the engine to run too cold. In this case the service or check engine soon light could illuminate, followed by a trouble code."
Also in the internet, another mechanic also stated the same but he said it not happens in all cases and that's why I think they(both mechanics) stated could/might be illuminate instead of will illuminate. I think the situation where the thermostat stick open is same with the situation where my brother is not using the thermostat now isn't it? I've ask the Proton SC technician(during the diagnostic) either by not using the thermostat could causing the Trouble Code or not, but he wasn't sure. This morning my brother came to my house and he found out little oil(seems like the hot oil vaporized from the head gasket) came out from the head gasket. Is this leak can cause to Check Engine light turn on?............."

and the possibly is third brake light??tht simple? sweat.gif sweat.gif need to dig more....

and yeah true...when i start my journey everythings ok..no engine light On during my holiday break....but when i reach dungun...lotsa car and need fast high shift..i time i revv 6k rpm..the engine light turn On until i stop at kemaman for diner...and yeah.. every time hard revv the light will On..pening2...average speed is 120kmj most is 160kmj....high revv after bentong toll to gombak toll....and yes,the temperature down to the coolest...RESULTING all light On...but the engine no smell or weird behave...this happen only after "the incident" tht took place ( i will not tell here nor to anybody ) yawn.gif



http://www.zerotohundred.com/newforums/car...e-light-on.html

This post has been edited by R.Y.D.E.C.K: Jan 30 2013, 11:17 AM
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post Jan 30 2013, 11:34 AM

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"the incident" hehe spooky..
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post Jan 30 2013, 11:40 AM

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Hey guys,

thanks for all the inputs,

RM80 vs RM250 really big different... sweat.gif

in fact the G Car Care shop is just few streets away from my house laugh.gif



Regarding the R.Y.D.E.C.K's post up story,

usually i can hear a 'tak' sound from engine bay when the blue light turn off,

i guess is the thermostat valve opens to let coolant flow through...

This post has been edited by ahpaul82: Jan 30 2013, 11:42 AM
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post Jan 30 2013, 11:50 AM

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QUOTE(ahpaul82 @ Jan 30 2013, 11:40 AM)
Hey guys,

thanks for all the inputs,

RM80 vs RM250 really big different...  sweat.gif

in fact the G Car Care shop is just few streets away from my house  laugh.gif
Regarding the R.Y.D.E.C.K's post up story,

usually i can hear a 'tak' sound from engine bay when the blue light turn off,

i guess is the thermostat valve opens to let coolant flow through...
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yeap..thet TAKK sound appears after the cps light off.....thts normal.... paul wut ur car problems?
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QUOTE(R.Y.D.E.C.K @ Jan 30 2013, 11:50 AM)
yeap..thet TAKK sound appears after the cps light off.....thts normal.... paul wut ur car problems?
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Going to share here soon. biggrin.gif
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post Jan 30 2013, 01:06 PM

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Interesting case..same like u bro rydeck. So other than change all sensor still haven't solve the probs?
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QUOTE(R.Y.D.E.C.K @ Jan 30 2013, 11:13 AM)
case study :

1.
" ................Hi all. My brother's car (Gen-2 1.6 MT year 2004) got overheated because of thermostat failure. After he changed the thermostat(original proton) the engine goes well for about 2 months then it got overheated again also because of thermostat failure. He changed the thermostat(ori proton) and do the top overhaul but the engine got overheated during the test by the mechanic. The mechanic expected the engine head got warped. He said usually Campro head cannot be skimmed but he knows a machine shop who can skim the Campro head perfectly and he claimed he has done 3 similar cases before without any further issues. After the engine got skimmed, the mechanic also cleans the radiator and change the water pump. After the engine head been reinstalled the mechanic found out the RPM got crazy(went up and down crazily). He went for compression ratio check and did the retuning but still got the RPM problem. Later he took out the thermostat and the RPM problem settled. Later got new problem, the Check Engine light will start to turn on once the the engine reaching 3500rpm. My brother went back to the mechanic for few times but still no change. He also tried to bring his car to other mechanics but still got the problem. The temperature is fine, never exceeding 90 degree celsius, but during driving it went lower than usual. But my brother cannot drive his car calmly as the Check Engine light still turned on once the RPM went 3500. Any opinion sifus?
.............................."
2. "..............The diagnostic(as well as the tuning) has being done at proton SC after the first time Check Engine light turned on(the mechanic brought it there since he didn't have the diagnostic tool) and it detected the sensor failure(or something like that, I can't recall) but when the sensor being replaced, nothing changed so the car went back to the Proton SC for diagnostic and again it detected sensor error. This happened few times(and back to Proton SC for diagnostic). Finally we changed all the suspected sensor but still the Check Engine light turned on. My brother try to ask an opinion from another mechanic(other workshop) and the mechanic said as for the sensor it might be the Knock Sensor failure since he said from his experience, sometimes after the top overhaul(during dismantle and reassemble) the sensor might being damaged.
I've done my own research on the internet(2carpros.com) and I found out that they claimed "When a thermostat malfunctions it can stick in the closed position not allowing the coolant to circulate, causing the engine to overheat. This will cause the vehicle to overheat in a very short amount of time (about 5 minutes). Or the thermostat could stick open causing the engine to run too cold. In this case the service or check engine soon light could illuminate, followed by a trouble code."
Also in the internet, another mechanic also stated the same but he said it not happens in all cases and that's why I think they(both mechanics) stated could/might be illuminate instead of will illuminate. I think the situation where the thermostat stick open is same with the situation where my brother is not using the thermostat now isn't it? I've ask the Proton SC technician(during the diagnostic) either by not using the thermostat could causing the Trouble Code or not, but he wasn't sure. This morning my brother came to my house and he found out little oil(seems like the hot oil vaporized from the head gasket) came out from the head gasket. Is this leak can cause to Check Engine light turn on?............."

and the possibly is third brake light??tht simple? sweat.gif  sweat.gif need to dig more....

and yeah true...when i start my journey everythings ok..no engine light On during my holiday break....but when i reach dungun...lotsa car and need fast high shift..i time i revv 6k rpm..the engine light turn On until i stop at kemaman for diner...and yeah.. every time hard revv the light will On..pening2...average speed is 120kmj most is 160kmj....high revv after bentong toll to gombak toll....and yes,the temperature down to the coolest...RESULTING all light On...but the engine no smell or weird behave...this happen only after "the incident" tht took place ( i will not tell here nor to anybody )  yawn.gif
http://www.zerotohundred.com/newforums/car...e-light-on.html
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applicable to gen2 only or all proton cars using campro?

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