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post Nov 21 2012, 07:43 AM

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QUOTE(azraeil @ Nov 20 2012, 08:09 PM)
Completion usually falls under the Production Technology skill gorup but then again, different company puts it in Drilling (I know mine does) so it depends.


Added on November 20, 2012, 8:10 pm
Ringgit lah ....
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oo thx bro for the info.its one of the lines im eying for my career progressment.
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post Nov 21 2012, 07:45 AM

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For those with relevant working experience, the OnG market here in Aberdeen is currently booming again. Opportunities are aplenty if you fit the requirements. Pay wise, it is not too shabby as well. Visa is a pain but is doable if you have a sponsor.
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Hi guys, im new here. I have a degree in petroleum engineering and majoring in drilling n production operations. but my result were not too excellent (3rd class) Because of this i cant apply to big companies. I just graduated in sept and now searching for job. Really appreciate if anyone can help me on this. :-)

And my question is, how much is expected salary for technical assistant job in kl for oil and gas company?
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Guys? A little help pls?
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Anyone here getting job offer from Welltec?
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Some of my colleagues have returned to Malaysia and the salary they are getting are close in terms of gross salary as compared to the one they were getting in my company. The problem most of us have is the education assistance that the company gives for our children. Once you start using the assistance (for boarding school), then it is very hard to leave as no other company in Malaysia can match the amount. I know because I have rejected Petrofac and Shell due to this reason.

Once my kids go to college, then I will most likely return to Malaysia. A friend returned and his pay package from a Malaysian Operator was close to 700K annually which is what most company are willing to pay for some of us to return to Malaysia.

Insyaallah kalau panjang umur I will return.
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Hi bro, thks for your input here all these while, its REALLY helpful. Btw, i have some questions to enquire you as i really need answers before choosing my course of study, for OnG sector, especially for a field engineer, would chem engineering or mech ngineering be more useful/applicable in my workplace later on? smile.gif and if i were to say graduate from a uni lyk Monash, how shud i go bout it in quest for a job, dun mind if im not being able to start off my career at big MNC ie petronas, schlumberger,technip etc. Even firms lyk Sapura Kencana will do with me, but how do i strt? Jobstreet doesnt seem to be a very good place.

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post Nov 21 2012, 12:14 PM

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So, If you want to achieve expat salary...you have to expat first in other country and come back.

Hujan emas di negeri orang, hujan batu di negeri sendiri...you will always choose your origin at the end

Last time, I visited saudi aramco website, they need at least 10 years of experiences for expat. So after 10 years I can join them?
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Some of the new ex-Petronas hire is on 6-7 years experience smile.gif so not too long. When I joined, yes the 10 year cut-off is required but now since most of us Malaysians here canc arry our weight, the company has really lowered the requirement.


Added on November 21, 2012, 12:22 pm
QUOTE(acgerlok7 @ Nov 21 2012, 05:46 AM)
Hi bro, thks for your input here all these while, its REALLY helpful. Btw, i have some questions to enquire you as i really need answers before choosing my course of study, for OnG sector, especially for a field engineer, would chem engineering or mech ngineering be more useful/applicable in my workplace later on? smile.gif and if i were to say graduate from a uni lyk Monash, how shud i go bout it in quest for a job, dun mind if im not being able to start off my career at big MNC ie petronas, schlumberger,technip etc. Even firms lyk Sapura Kencana will do with me, but how do i strt? Jobstreet doesnt seem to be a very good place.
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Both fields are okay if you want to join but I would suppose that mechanical engineering will be a bit more relevant to the O&G industry especially the upstream side (where a lot of activities are going on). Chemical engineering is also good but then again, most people when they hear CHem E, then they immediately focused on placing you on the downstream side of the business like Penapisan/Refinery PetroChem etc. So if you are aiming for the Upstream side of the business, then ME is probably a better choice

BUT, if you do Chem E, there is a chance you can be a Reservoir Engineer because I have known a lot of Chem E grads who became Reservoirn Engineers because RE deals with a lot of Chemical Engineering work as well ..... some sort of overlap exists between the two.

As for starting from a fresh grad, well it's obviously tough so you need patience and also some bit of luck. Do not underestimate the importance of networking. If you know of a conference like PGC&E (Petroleum Geology Conference & Exhibition )etc etc, go as a student delegate and talk to the players manning the booth and probably drop a business card (make your own business card lah). If you hear of any SPE conference, drop by and do the same. Collect also their business cards and a semester before you graduate strat sending those CVs to the people you've collected their business cards from. Jangan malu malu because if you don't go for it, you'll never get it (same applies for trying to get woman of course .... but I'm digressing).

Good Luck.


Added on November 21, 2012, 12:24 pm
QUOTE(blo0dLuSt @ Nov 21 2012, 05:25 AM)
Guys? A little help pls?
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So what if your result is not good? Why do you say that you cannot apply to big companies. Try and become a mudlogger first and after 1-2 years that experience is a s good as gettign a Masters.

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post Nov 21 2012, 12:39 PM

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Some of the new ex-Petronas hire is on 6-7 years experience smile.gif so not too long. When I joined, yes the 10 year cut-off is required but now since most of us Malaysians here canc arry our weight, the company has really lowered the requirement.


Added on November 21, 2012, 12:22 pm

Both fields are okay if you want to join but I would suppose that mechanical engineering will be a bit more relevant to the O&G industry especially the upstream side (where a lot of activities are going on). Chemical engineering is also good but then again, most people when they hear CHem E, then they immediately focused on placing you on the downstream side of the business like Penapisan/Refinery PetroChem etc. So if you are aiming for the Upstream side of the business, then ME is probably a better choice

BUT, if you do Chem E, there is a chance you can be a Reservoir Engineer because I have known a lot of Chem E grads who became Reservoirn Engineers because RE deals with a lot of Chemical Engineering work as well ..... some sort of overlap exists between the two.

As for starting from a fresh grad, well it's obviously tough so you need patience and also some bit of luck. Do not underestimate the importance of networking. If you know of a conference like PGC&E (Petroleum Geology Conference & Exhibition )etc etc, go as a student delegate and talk to the players manning the booth and probably drop a business card (make your own business card lah). If you hear of any SPE conference, drop by and do the same. Collect also their business cards and a semester before you graduate strat sending those CVs to the people you've collected their business cards from. Jangan malu malu because if you don't go for it, you'll never get it (same applies for trying to get woman of course .... but I'm digressing).

Good Luck.


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So what if your result is not good? Why do you say that you cannot apply to big companies. Try and become a mudlogger first and after 1-2 years that experience is a s good as gettign a Masters.
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i said so bcause everytime i send them my cv and their reply was "we re looking for first class degree holder only" or they didnt bother to reply at all.

About mudloggers, just apply or what? They didnt need higher class degree? Sorry bout asking so many question. Newbie to this industry. :-) btw thanks for your reply
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SLB or Halliburton should have positions for mudloggers or some of the service companies. yes, just send your resume to those company with a good cover letter with your intention of becoming a mudlogger.

Good Luck.
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QUOTE(azraeil @ Nov 21 2012, 12:55 PM)
SLB or Halliburton should have positions for mudloggers or some of the service companies. yes, just send your resume to those company with a good cover letter with your intention of becoming a mudlogger.

Good Luck.
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Thanks again :-) i will do as u advised me.
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post Nov 21 2012, 03:50 PM

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I'm not from HR Dept, so don't ask about salary.. biggrin.gif

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I'm not from HR Dept, so don't ask about salary..  biggrin.gif
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wah , can mk the picture bigger ar? hw to see ? LOL
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post Nov 21 2012, 04:40 PM

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QUOTE(azraeil @ Nov 21 2012, 12:14 PM)
Some of the new ex-Petronas hire is on 6-7 years experience smile.gif so not too long. When I joined, yes the 10 year cut-off is required but now since most of us Malaysians here canc arry our weight, the company has really lowered the requirement.


Added on November 21, 2012, 12:22 pm

Both fields are okay if you want to join but I would suppose that mechanical engineering will be a bit more relevant to the O&G industry especially the upstream side (where a lot of activities are going on). Chemical engineering is also good but then again, most people when they hear CHem E, then they immediately focused on placing you on the downstream side of the business like Penapisan/Refinery PetroChem etc. So if you are aiming for the Upstream side of the business, then ME is probably a better choice

BUT, if you do Chem E, there is a chance you can be a Reservoir Engineer because I have known a lot of Chem E grads who became Reservoirn Engineers because RE deals with a lot of Chemical Engineering work as well ..... some sort of overlap exists between the two.

As for starting from a fresh grad, well it's obviously tough so you need patience and also some bit of luck. Do not underestimate the importance of networking. If you know of a conference like PGC&E (Petroleum Geology Conference & Exhibition )etc etc, go as a student delegate and talk to the players manning the booth and probably drop a business card (make your own business card lah). If you hear of any SPE conference, drop by and do the same. Collect also their business cards and a semester before you graduate strat sending those CVs to the people you've collected their business cards from. Jangan malu malu because if you don't go for it, you'll never get it (same applies for trying to get woman of course .... but I'm digressing).

Good Luck.
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Bro Azraeli, Thank you so much for the helpful reply, if you dun mind me asking, did you studied locally here in msia unis or overc in USA/UK unis before starting off your wonderful adventure in OnG ? biggrin.gif
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Bro Azraeli, Thank you so much for the helpful reply, if you dun mind me asking, did you studied locally here in msia unis or overc in USA/UK unis before starting off your wonderful adventure in OnG ? biggrin.gif
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I did my degree in th US.
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oh wow... biggrin.gif


Added on November 21, 2012, 5:49 pmI find that it is quite hard to seek for opportunities here... most of the contractor/vendors/clients has cut down on recruiting on site from uni. sad.gif
even i get to know from my friend, petronas has stopped participating in job fairs in monash uni, previously they do.

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oh wow... biggrin.gif


Added on November 21, 2012, 5:49 pmI find that it is quite hard to seek for opportunities here... most of the contractor/vendors/clients has cut down on recruiting on site from uni. sad.gif
even i get to know from my friend, petronas has stopped participating in job fairs in monash uni, previously they do.
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if im not mistaken only last week there was one job fair at mmu cyberjaya.most big companies in ong was there.a friend of mine got selected for an interview with halliburton.
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as i read from v1 to v3,you all guys are rarely discuss about corrosion. is it not lucrative field as subsea or drilling field?
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as i read from v1 to v3,you all guys are rarely discuss about corrosion. is it not lucrative field as subsea or drilling field?
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Welding also
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maybe coz m'sia have enough skill worker and professional engineer for welding job
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as i read from v1 to v3,you all guys are rarely discuss about corrosion. is it not lucrative field as subsea or drilling field?
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QUOTE(blo0dLuSt @ Nov 21 2012, 10:25 AM)
Guys? A little help pls?
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Let me share some of experiences of getting job. I admit, it is hard to get into oil n gas industry but it is not impossible. If you try hard enough you will get it eventually. Have you heard of pareto law, law of 80-20. This law is quite applicable to most situation where out 100 applications you apply, only 20 applications respond back to you and so on for later stage (interview). So you have to keep applying and also keep track of what you have applied. Make a list and update it from time to time. When I was unemployed, I read the Star almost everyday to find employment.

Until one day, my efforts were paid off when I was offered to work as trainee mudlogger with Geoservices (not a tambi company). The pay was low but with offshore allowances it is not so bad comparing with land job. Do not compare with other offshore jobs like cementer, wireline, completion , mwd, mud engineer, geologist, directional driller and etc. It will demotivate you. Working in mudlogging is a good place to learn about operation especially drilling. You will learn to monitor every single drilling parameter and it is your responsibility to report any changes. So it is easy for people to blame you if you miss something. For example if the mud loss during drilling and you missed it. There is high changes to be run off from the rig.

After few months becoming a trainee mudlogger, I was promoted to mudlogger. During that period, I only did was collecting drilling samples. When not drilling, I used that time to learn how to monitor the operation. Depending on the sampling interval and rate of penetration, you will collect certain amount of samples in an hour. It is tiring when you have to take more than two samples per hour for 12 hours shift. I was lucky, I had to do this for 4 hitches before becoming mudlogger. When you are mudlogger, you don't have to do sampling anymore. Sampling is done by sample catcher or trainee mudlogger.

This job may not look lucrative as other job, but you learn a lot about operation. Many people work here as stepping stone for other job. There are many ex-mudloggers are now working somewhere else as completion, mwd engineer, wellsite geologist, drilling engineer and many more. So it opens to many other opportunities but you have to keep your eye open and build your own networking. Don't worry, on the rig, you will meet many kind of people. That's the change to network.

Set your target, how long you want to work as mudlogger and work for it. My 2 cent advice, don't stay there for too long (1-2 years is ok), or else you are stuck. Once you stuck, it is very hard to move. That is the case for most people in mudlogging. Everybody want to quit. Learn, get promoted and leave quickly. Now I am no longer with Geoservices, currently working with the custodian of petroleum resources in m'sia. Many of my friends in mudlogging are leaving for better opportunities.

Good luck!


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QUOTE(azraeil @ Nov 21 2012, 05:01 PM)
I did my degree in th US.
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