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 ELECTRIC HOB, compared sugawa,vees, and others

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dreyvii
post Mar 30 2014, 10:24 AM

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QUOTE(Kevin Chan @ Jan 5 2014, 11:08 PM)
i heard charcoal and wood file is better taste than gas, you plan to switch back ?
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Lol I taste sarcasm.

But actually, just for arguments sake, charcoal and wood does give a more distinctive flavour to food. Just like how most forumers claim gas will give you enough 'wok Hei' which is difficult to achieve with induction/ceramic burners. Anyone with experience with cooking, can pls share your char kuey teow experience using ceramic burners? tongue.gif
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post Mar 30 2014, 10:51 AM

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Well samething i guess cooking in claypots vs steel pots. Former has better taste.


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post Apr 1 2014, 01:19 AM

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QUOTE(cstkl1 @ Mar 30 2014, 10:51 AM)
Well samething i guess cooking in claypots vs steel pots. Former has better taste.
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Clay pots have let over food taste and burned taste of course taste special smile.gif
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post Apr 1 2014, 09:06 AM

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QUOTE(cstkl1 @ Mar 30 2014, 10:51 AM)
Well samething i guess cooking in claypots vs steel pots. Former has better taste.
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I don't feel it much different. Accept need to achieve some burning rice taste for certain food.

I believe last time ppl using claypots is because it able to maintain the heat after cook. Keep longer hr from cool weather.

And claypots is the oldest cooking ware for ppl when steel pot not yet invent.

Claypot is not efficienct for cooking. It need more energy and time to penetrate inside. I avoid using claypot.
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post Apr 1 2014, 09:19 AM

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QUOTE(ozak @ Apr 1 2014, 09:06 AM)
I don't feel it much different. Accept need to achieve some burning rice taste for certain food.

I believe last time ppl using claypots is because it able to maintain the heat after cook. Keep longer hr from cool weather.

And claypots is the oldest cooking ware for ppl when steel pot not yet invent.

Claypot is not efficienct for cooking. It need more energy and time to penetrate inside. I avoid using claypot.
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It does taste different, and have different texture too.

High power Gas cooking will always give better "Wok Hei", and actually can cook vegi faster and look greener and won't turn yellowish. If you cook "YauMak", or "SangChoy" before you know it turn yellow very easy.

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post Apr 1 2014, 09:36 AM

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QUOTE(weikee @ Apr 1 2014, 09:19 AM)
It does taste different, and have different texture too.

High power Gas cooking will always give better "Wok Hei", and actually can cook vegi faster and look greener and won't turn yellowish. If you cook "YauMak", or "SangChoy" before you know it turn yellow very easy.
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I know it have different taste. It just me don't feel the taste.

But I can taste the hokkien mee if cook with the charcoal. Compare the gas.

I hate those vegi cook till turn yellowish. Of course to achieve greener, high heat with shorter time.

But I prefer just boil it in short time. I know mostly Chinese ppl don't like too fresh the taste of vegi. Taste like eating grass. tongue.gif
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post Apr 1 2014, 11:17 AM

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QUOTE(ozak @ Apr 1 2014, 09:36 AM)
I know it have different taste. It just me don't feel the taste.

But I can taste the hokkien mee if cook with the charcoal. Compare the gas.

I hate those vegi cook till turn yellowish. Of course to achieve greener, high heat with shorter time.

But I prefer just boil it in short time. I know mostly Chinese ppl don't like too fresh the taste of vegi. Taste like eating grass. tongue.gif
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Strong fire actually give some green taste and retain the color too. Cooking is in my family for so long smile.gif I have a trained very fussy tongue. The simplest food is the hardest to cook, I normally judge/test the cook with the fried rice they cook, is a simple dish hard to screw up, but is also a simple dish not easy to be master. High power + skill will create good fired rice.
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post May 18 2014, 05:18 PM

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Every things come with pros and cons......
CHARCOAL = BLACK, DIRTY OLD WAY
GAS = INHALING FUME WHILE COOKING
INDUCTION = STAINLESS STILL ONLY + RADIATION
CERAMIC = HIGH ELECTRIC CONSUMPTION......

SO..... EAT RAW THE BEST.... HAHA
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post May 20 2014, 07:34 PM

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QUOTE(CASSER @ May 18 2014, 05:18 PM)
Every things come with pros and cons......
CHARCOAL = BLACK, DIRTY OLD WAY
GAS = INHALING FUME WHILE COOKING
INDUCTION = STAINLESS STILL ONLY + RADIATION
CERAMIC = HIGH ELECTRIC CONSUMPTION......

SO..... EAT RAW THE BEST.... HAHA
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EAT RAW stomach-ache smile.gif
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post May 24 2015, 03:28 PM

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I have an induction cooker 2 hob with power 1kW and 1.8kW each.
I used for few times and a big capacitor inside is burn (I believe is the EMI module).
I'm using 13A normal wall socket, may i know is this suitable?
The power should be enough for 240V/13A right?
i wonder is due to poor EMI module or it actually needs high current?
based on the user manual, error code E00 shows the current shouldn't over >15A.
Can any expert here to give advice and where can i get a better EMI module to replace the burn module.
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post May 24 2015, 03:48 PM

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QUOTE(lee1234 @ May 24 2015, 03:28 PM)
I have an induction cooker 2 hob with power 1kW and 1.8kW each.
I used for few times and a big capacitor inside is burn (I believe is the EMI module).
I'm using 13A normal wall socket, may i know is this suitable?
The power should be enough for 240V/13A right?
i wonder is due to poor EMI module or it actually needs high current?
based on the user manual, error code E00 shows the current shouldn't over >15A.
Can any expert here to give advice and where can i get a better EMI module to replace the burn module.
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2.8kw is between the 13a socket spec. But if you have long day cook, get a bigger capacity is more safer.

As long as your MCB didn't trip and your plug inside 13A fuse didn't burn, it is enough.

The problem look like more to the unit component quality. If you know that is a EMI thinky, guess you know where to find. Pasar road have choice. Look for TDK or tokin if you want better 1.
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post May 24 2015, 04:17 PM

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QUOTE(ozak @ May 24 2015, 03:48 PM)
2.8kw is between the 13a socket spec. But if you have long day cook, get a bigger capacity is more safer.

As long as your MCB didn't trip and your plug inside 13A fuse didn't burn, it is enough.

The problem look like more to the unit component quality. If you know that is a EMI thinky, guess you know where to find. Pasar road have choice. Look for TDK or tokin if you want better 1.
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Thanks for your reply.
Sorry for some mistake, i think tats should be RCL filter where the board consist of 2 big coil induction, each in serial with each power pin and a resistor and cap parallel with two power pin and the big cap is burn.


How should i fix it? changing a cap would help? or changing the whole filter module? any recommendation place to look for it?

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post May 24 2015, 04:43 PM

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QUOTE(lee1234 @ May 24 2015, 04:17 PM)
Thanks for your reply.
Sorry for some mistake, i think tats should be RCL filter where the board consist of 2 big coil induction, each in serial with each power pin and a resistor and cap parallel with two power pin and the big cap is burn.
How should i fix it? changing a cap would help? or changing the whole filter module? any recommendation place to look for it?
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Sorry, I never open it before. So no idea what it look like inside. If you know the cap value, than replace it.

The best is get back to the brand service center.
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post May 24 2015, 04:52 PM

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QUOTE(ozak @ May 24 2015, 04:43 PM)
Sorry, I never open it before. So no idea what it look like inside. If you know the cap value, than replace it.

The best is get back to the brand service center.
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Too bad the brand service center is closed @@ i cant find the cap value from the PCB board. Anyhow, thanks for your reply comment smile.gif
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post May 25 2015, 12:30 PM

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anyone used Livinox hoob and hob before?
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post Apr 25 2016, 01:36 PM

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QUOTE(zheilwane @ Aug 27 2012, 08:41 AM)
Vees and FOTILE's 1 electricity consumption is about the same, no such thing as save electricity. It does save electricity as the hob will automatically turn off when it reach certain temperature than turn back on by itself when temperature drop at cut in point. This is more to safety feature not energy saving which both FOTILE and Vees also have.

Induction is usually more energy saving, if u look at the catalogs, inductions usually require 13-15amp only. While ceramic hob 20amp.

If you are using gas and wanna switch to induction, you will notice that most of your pots/wok cant b used on induction, so you will need to get new one's. This is why most people hate to get induction and demand for it is low, so FOTILE discontinued their induction hob and replace with ceramic. However, induction is more efficient and energy saving.
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Hi Zheil
Fotile hob need only 20amp ? What is the brochure refering to when it says 25Amp?

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QUOTE(angerger @ Apr 25 2016, 01:36 PM)
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Hi Zheil
Fotile hob need only  20amp ?  What is  the brochure refering to when it says 25Amp?
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You can use the 20amp switch similar to air-con but wire make sure can take the load of 4000 watt. for the 25amp i think they recommend it for EEG 75201 (4500 watt)

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QUOTE(stevie8 @ Jan 5 2014, 12:51 AM)
A single burner is only USD21 or RM67 from china manufacturer. see pic. I have a hyundai like the pic for RM99, and a double burner from sugawa costs more than RM200k plus all the cheapo gifts my wife bought.

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http://www.alibaba.com/showroom/ceramic-cooker.html
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Start curious about electric usage cooker, and come into this threat.

my eye is like @_@ while found out tat the price from Alibaba at average USD 20 but those duo cooker is selling at RM2k average nowadays.

Everyone still using electric usage cooker or back to conventional already?
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My advise is, don't go for those tepi jalan punya brand like Sugawa. Those companies will try to sell their products using any sort of method and gimmick, after products are sold, once broken, u will know how hard to ask their technician to come and service, and I wonder if they only have 1 technician for the whole country versus a bunch of sales persons.
Just go for branded and reputable products.
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post Mar 6 2018, 06:28 PM

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Is senz or kitch hobs are good? Aiming 2 in 1. Have both ceramic and induction.

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