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 Demon Hunter V2, Patch 1.05 - More survivabilities!

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SUS2890
post Oct 26 2012, 04:13 PM

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QUOTE(wKkaY @ Oct 26 2012, 04:08 PM)
Yeah probably, as you can't get 62.5% cc on those gear even with perfect rolls. Helm 6%, rings 6+6%, ammy 10%, nats bonus 7%, gloves 10%, bracers 6%, pants 1%, quiver 10% = 62%.
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Yeah i figured. Don't think that skill is good cuz it requires u to stay still.

Oh btw, are u a legacy user??
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post Oct 26 2012, 04:50 PM

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QUOTE(wKkaY @ Oct 26 2012, 04:42 PM)
Yeah I'm a legacy nat user. Bait synergizes nicely in my build. They're cheap to cast and last a long time provided nothing steps over them (which is usually the case in uber matches). No casting animation too, so just lay one down any time. For key runs I use numbing traps passive, which is activated by bait caltrops. I have practically 100% bait uptime in uber, but for elites much less, depending how busy i am with the four disc spenders in my skill bar.
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Uber are not my main concern tbh. You see, i'm trying to ditch my legacy helm and ring for a mempo and a better ring. Let's face it, the nat mark is CRAP.

So i'll loose my disc regen and i was wondering anyways to cover it? I know u can use NS or Vengeance or MS but is it as efficient as legacy. People in the EU forums always mock legacy users cuz they wonder why do we need the disc regen as they never run out.

I have 40 Disc.
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post Oct 26 2012, 07:12 PM

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QUOTE(philip42 @ Oct 26 2012, 06:28 PM)
guys can i build a decent dh with 20-50m? what set to get? legacy or new set?
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The sad fact is you can't.
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post Oct 26 2012, 07:53 PM

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yeah slowly man.. rushing into it will only make u waste ur money. find out what parts u really need and go for it first. one part at a time.
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post Oct 26 2012, 08:27 PM

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QUOTE(yuhhaur @ Oct 26 2012, 08:15 PM)
how much is the dml right now? you can consider that
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100mil at least with disc on it.

entangling shots cheapest.

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post Oct 26 2012, 08:43 PM

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QUOTE(philip42 @ Oct 26 2012, 08:28 PM)
so which one to buy ? at least how many attack speed %?


Added on October 26, 2012, 8:35 pm
just bought this for 6m
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At least 19percent IAS. If u don't need disc on the DML that it will be cheap depending on the DH skill u want la. Generally, HA and EA are the most expensive ones followed by bola shot.
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post Oct 26 2012, 10:20 PM

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QUOTE(philip42 @ Oct 26 2012, 09:26 PM)
bought all my gears and my dps now is 100k with archery
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LOL. What the...

U buy gold?
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post Oct 26 2012, 10:49 PM

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QUOTE(shin6619 @ Oct 26 2012, 10:29 PM)
Using 2 hand xbow now, dps 110k without ss.
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/ShiN-6679/hero/955543
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I'm envious of that manticore. Better than mine! how much was it?
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post Oct 27 2012, 12:53 PM

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Any bola shot users out there?
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post Oct 27 2012, 01:03 PM

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QUOTE(d3dragonslayer @ Oct 25 2012, 06:06 PM)
jealous those who has legacy nats.... many disc spender and dont need preparation somemore...

how long does it take for you to farm the key one round?
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Legacy sets are indeed good and with them you get to mindlessly spam gloom all day. Coupled with a proper AR n HP pool, u can literally face tank lots of mobs and on lower MP levels, you can farm really fast. However, the downside to that set is boring and it hampers your DPS growth.

I'm half way through ditching my legacy set and went from a 200 AR 40K HP ex legacy to a 280 AR 56k HP half legacy user. I think by the time i have fully ditch them i'll have better survivability and even more DPS.

Besides that, my DPS on legacy was in the region of 150K with SA and Archery and now i have 210k DPS with SA and Archery. So, there's an alternative to legacy. Don't have to be jealous =DDDDDDD

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post Oct 27 2012, 02:30 PM

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Amazing, he's has the same damage as my friend who played for 900 hours. Crazy people. Respect.

Just a suggestion, i think the witching hour is better than inna's belt cuz u get to boost IAS and Crit Dmg. You went from 1.77 to 1.89 and with witching u'll probably get 1.98.
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post Oct 27 2012, 09:25 PM

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QUOTE(wKkaY @ Oct 27 2012, 09:01 PM)
Ha ha, let's see how we fare on our journey in trying other builds. I just bought a SOJ to replace my nat's mark as an experiment. +5% poison dmg, 10 disc, 26% bonus vs elites, 7% bonus bola dmg. I didn't lose much dps against normal monsters (which demonstrates how pathetic my mark is), but I have a big gain against elites.
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Hey, you know what i was just about to buy a SoJ with bola in it and saw the huge DPS drop buy was lazy to do the math to figure the real DPS. THanks!

It seems that u gain an extra 88k DPS with SoJ on elites and 8k on mobs. Boy, that mark must suck real hard. THe thing with me is that i loose 25k DPS if i use SoJ so i'm not sure whether does it actually benefit me.

But the figures on Bolas are amazing. Close to 300k.

Are you a legacy user? If you are, DROP IT and u can thank me later.
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post Oct 27 2012, 10:52 PM

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QUOTE(shin6619 @ Oct 27 2012, 10:38 PM)
Crazy build!!!


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Y drop legacy?
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Cuz i get wayyyyyyyyyy much more survivability and DPS by dropping them. Besides, it only benefits the DH at low MP levels. I'm half way there tho. Dropped my helm and ring already but i'm keeping them. Sentimental values. =)

Besides, the best helm for a DH imo is Mempo of Twilight, INSANE HP boost. So, made the change and running MP7 with 210k DPS. Will get even more after i replace the legacy cloak and boots with the new ones.

Shin, u're a gloom heavy user so i guess legacy is the way to go but if u ever want to make the switch u just need to figure out ur disc management and u'll rock man cuz i know u have high AR.
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post Oct 28 2012, 03:56 AM

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Anyone doing MP8 and above in co-op? What is ur disc pool? What skills are you using?
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post Oct 28 2012, 06:36 PM

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QUOTE(wlcling @ Oct 28 2012, 06:26 PM)
pro-s... anything worth upgrade with 60mill for more dps?

http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/BlacK-6389/
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Your pants can go. 60mil should be enough to get a inna temperance with VIT maybe in it. But with no vit, definitely enough. Would give u a big DPS boost i believe.

OR

DML with bola shot skill boost in it. The downside here to this upgrade is u might loose the DEX and VIT roll u have to the 190 region. A 20 IAS DML with no DISC should be within your budget.

OR

The shoes with higher dex roll should be within your budget as well.

I think the pants should go first.

p.s: Mempo FTW !!
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post Oct 28 2012, 08:02 PM

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QUOTE(wlcling @ Oct 28 2012, 07:21 PM)
thanks bro... Yah thinking of imnas temperance too... then either lacuni prowlers or natalya footprints can go since will be 3 gears that has +12% walk speed. however the shoes are giving me +7 cc as its part of a 2 set natalyas.

but like that lose 40 mf... lol
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I think max MS is 25 percent.

You can try this combination to maintain 25 percent MS.

1. Inna + good bracers with 5 crit c and NAT shoes.
2. Lacuni + Depth Diggers + NAT shoes.
3. Lacuni + Inna + Ice Climbers.

I don't think u should drop the the NAT cuz of the 7 percent CC.
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post Oct 28 2012, 10:27 PM

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how much AR u have?

yeah good for ubers but bad for runs.
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post Oct 28 2012, 10:46 PM

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MAn, i want those NAT boots and cloak as well. I think the boots going to cost a bomb.

I have 300 AR and 57k HP and i think is enough. U should drop the ruby and use amethyst instead.
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post Oct 29 2012, 01:04 AM

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QUOTE(ALeUNe @ Oct 29 2012, 12:21 AM)
Only 300 AR? I think it's a bit low.
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Haha, hopefully 320 when I get the boots. But I came a long way. Last time 20k HP 170 AR. Well DH so what to do, is hard to get survivability and DPS without selling a kidney.


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QUOTE(stalkerrox @ Oct 29 2012, 01:01 AM)
more than enough.. my AR only 200 this patch armor is more important than AR
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Nah u r wrong here. Armor and AR go together.

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post Oct 29 2012, 01:10 AM

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QUOTE(ALeUNe @ Oct 29 2012, 01:05 AM)
With such AR you are like 2-3 hits KOed.
i.e. A2 keywarden.
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Well if u play DH and allow the mobs to hit u thrice consecutively, u really need to improve. I think we stack HP as AR to allow us to make mistakes not to stand still n out last the mobs like legacy users, monks or barbs.

Besides, non legacy DH requires the greatest skill to play.

This post has been edited by 2890: Oct 29 2012, 01:11 AM

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