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post Aug 22 2012, 12:37 AM, updated 14y ago

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Apa ada pada pangkat? Last2 masuk kubur kena soal jugak
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QUOTE(fertzpatrick @ Aug 22 2012, 12:39 AM)
Apa ada pada pangkat? Last2 masuk kubur kena soal jugak
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The name is not pangkat, but more or less family's inheritance ? hmm.gif hmm.gif

trust me, those who have the family name stated above would prefer to have a simple name rather than dont know how many characters for the first name sweat.gif
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QUOTE(Nama saya Amad @ Aug 21 2012, 04:37 PM)
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how about chinese name?  hmm.gif
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gelaran keturunan = heriditary title
chinese name = surname/family name
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post Aug 22 2012, 12:46 AM

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Wan ali bin abu

Abu tak boleh sesuka hati letak wan sebab dia bukan keturunan wan

Chinese is family name la, apa kaitan aku tak boleh otak
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post Aug 22 2012, 12:46 AM

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kawan saya namanya rasul
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post Aug 22 2012, 12:47 AM

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ada apa pada nama
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QUOTE(azarimy @ Aug 22 2012, 12:44 AM)
gelaran keturunan = heriditary title
chinese name = surname/family name
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well, title is in a different game altogehter. it's not a title, just another 'name' i must say nod.gif
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i got to know some people with the name, sultan, datu, tengku...etc...all hamsap punya orang...school exams pun tak pass..
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QUOTE(maxpudding @ Aug 22 2012, 12:46 AM)
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Wan ali bin abu

Abu tak boleh sesuka hati letak wan sebab dia bukan keturunan wan

Chinese is family name la, apa kaitan aku tak boleh otak
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Yup... At peninsular so many this Wan and Syed cases...

I hav a fren at sabah, his name is even cooler... Datu as inheritance name... His name is Datu Hikmal bin Datu xxxxxxx
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QUOTE(CeDhhVss @ Aug 22 2012, 12:49 AM)
i got to know some people with the name, sultan, datu, tengku...etc...all hamsap punya orang...school exams pun tak pass..
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Generalization is not always good mang
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they should define what is gelaran keturunan and how it's spelled. coz i know a number of variations on some of these title names that it confuses the hell outta me. for example:

the difference between: tengku, tunku, teuku, ku

or: said, syed, sayid, sayed

etc...
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how bout if i want to create my inheritances family name..
mean its start my my name or my son name
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Got Putera and Puteri too ..
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Awang hitam is also keturunan?
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Lol if she has the title sharifah then it will be understandable...but...lol
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QUOTE(salimbest83 @ Aug 21 2012, 04:52 PM)
how bout if i want to create my inheritances family name..
mean its start my my name or my son name
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start lah. family name is family name. this topic is talking about heriditary titles.
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honestly this name thingy is so ridiculous. why the need of championing the concept of socal strata class
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Tengku Adnan Mansor is doesn't even have royal blood. tongue.gif

Now there's a Tengku before his dad's name.

Tengku Adnan Tengku Mansor.

You don't inherit 'tengku-ness' from your wife.
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I tot muslim prefer to put 'mohd' compare to wan/tengku/etc
Isnt mohd the highest hereditary title compare to the rest of name?
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QUOTE(boyot @ Aug 21 2012, 05:07 PM)
I tot muslim prefer to put 'mohd' compare to wan/tengku/etc
Isnt mohd the highest hereditary title compare to the rest of name?
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thing is, mohd is not heriditary.
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QUOTE(maxpudding @ Aug 22 2012, 01:00 AM)
Lol if she has the title sharifah then it will be understandable...but...lol
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sharifah oso title kah?
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In sabah got certain people with the name of pangeran, which i have been told is given to someone with noble blood
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QUOTE(Nama saya Amad @ Aug 22 2012, 12:50 AM)
Generalization is not always good mang
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ok lah, my bad. to be specific, the people that i once knew, whose name is Sultan, Datu, Tengku, Rajah. (Note:bukan semua olang yang with that name) all hamsap..
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QUOTE(boyot @ Aug 22 2012, 01:07 AM)
I tot muslim prefer to put 'mohd' compare to wan/tengku/etc
Isnt mohd the highest hereditary title compare to the rest of name?
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Wan/syed/sayid/tuanku is Nabi Muhammad's bloodline...
For example, my fren is from al-idrus line, if u know their family tree u will understand..

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QUOTE(pandah @ Aug 22 2012, 01:09 AM)
sharifah oso title kah?
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Yep, if the father is a syed
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QUOTE(boyot @ Aug 22 2012, 01:11 AM)
In sabah got certain people with the name of pangeran, which i have been told is given to someone with noble blood
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golongan pilaks and pendatangs punya gelaran...and they actually believe their king is Sultan Kiram III etc. sedangkan sultan tu datang ke sabah dan bekerja dgn sabah, I.E. this sultan is broke sultan...
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QUOTE(boyot @ Aug 22 2012, 01:11 AM)
In sabah got certain people with the name of pangeran, which i have been told is given to someone with noble blood
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Not always

If you are a normal citizen kawen with brunei royalty chic you will be given pangeran too
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actually got how many titles?

how they determine the title?

if the father's name got syed, daughter name can put sharifah? like this? son's name can put syed?


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sebaik baik prefix nama ada muhammad, abdul , ahmad etc . kenapa perlu guna hereditary title ? muhammad itu nama yang lebih hebat dari apa apa gelaran lain.



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QUOTE(CeDhhVss @ Aug 22 2012, 01:14 AM)
golongan pilaks and pendatangs punya gelaran...and they actually believe their king is Sultan Kiram III etc. sedangkan sultan tu datang ke sabah dan bekerja dgn sabah, I.E. this sultan is broke sultan...
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QUOTE(omara86 @ Aug 22 2012, 01:13 AM)
Wan/syed/sayid/tuanku is Nabi Muhammad's bloodline...
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Isnt that malays name? Syed, tuanku, sayid?
Since when nabi muhammad bloodline using malays name? And arent the prophet bloodline were an arab to begin with?
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QUOTE(omara86 @ Aug 22 2012, 01:13 AM)
Wan/syed/sayid/tuanku is Nabi Muhammad's bloodline...
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Speaking from my experience, among Syed/Sharifah friends that I know kind of proud of the titles. Some of them look down than other 'ordinary' muslims. Worst is their moms. Dads are still ok.

Kinda beat the purpose of having prophet's bloodline.
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QUOTE(omara86 @ Aug 22 2012, 01:13 AM)
Wan/syed/sayid/tuanku is Nabi Muhammad's bloodline...
For example, my fren is from al-idrus line, if u know their family tree u will understand..
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this one is super cool story
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QUOTE(pandah @ Aug 22 2012, 01:15 AM)
actually got how many titles?

how they determine the title?

if the father's name got syed, daughter name can put sharifah? like this? son's name can put syed?
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Son put syed, doter sharifah, syarifah etc
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QUOTE(boyot @ Aug 22 2012, 01:16 AM)
Isnt that malays name? Syed, tuanku, sayid?
Since when nabi muhammad bloodline using malays name? And arent the prophet bloodline were an arab to begin with?
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Pls refer my edited previous post...

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Wan/syed/sayid/tuanku is Nabi Muhammad's bloodline... For example, my fren is from al-idrus line, if u know their family tree u will understand..
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QUOTE(pandah @ Aug 22 2012, 01:15 AM)
actually got how many titles?

how they determine the title?

if the father's name got syed, daughter name can put sharifah? like this? son's name can put syed?
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If I'm not mistaken,

Syed (male) marries Sharifah (female) = Can name their children Syed or Sharifah.

Syed (male) marries Non-Sharifah (female) = Can name their children Syed or Sharifah.

Non-Syed (male) marries Sharifah (female) = Cannot name their children Syed or Sharifah.


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QUOTE(boyot @ Aug 22 2012, 01:16 AM)
Isnt that malays name? Syed, tuanku, sayid?
Since when nabi muhammad bloodline using malays name? And arent the prophet bloodline were an arab to begin with?
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Nope they are arabic
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QUOTE(jimbet1337 @ Aug 22 2012, 01:17 AM)
Speaking from my experience, among Syed/Sharifah friends that I know kind of proud of the titles. Some of them look down than other 'ordinary' muslims. Worst is their moms. Dads are still ok.

Kinda beat the purpose of having prophet's bloodline.
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Got a lot of issues to get married too. My late cousin have to face a lot of issues just because he doesn't have a syed in front of his name in order to married sharifah sweat.gif sweat.gif sweat.gif
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QUOTE(omara86 @ Aug 22 2012, 01:13 AM)
Wan/syed/sayid/tuanku is Nabi Muhammad's bloodline...
For example, my fren is from al-idrus line, if u know their family tree u will understand..
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wakluuuu legend mana ko dgr nih? shocking.gif shocking.gif
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QUOTE(jimbet1337 @ Aug 22 2012, 01:19 AM)
If I'm not mistaken,

Syed (male) marries Sharifah (female) = Can name their children Syed or Sharifah.

Syed (male) marries Non-Sharifah (female) = Can name their children Syed or Sharifah.

Non-Syed (male) marries Sharifah (female) = Cannot name their children Syed or Sharifah.
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Dulu dulu non syed that marries sharifah their children put Wan
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QUOTE(Irzani @ Aug 22 2012, 01:19 AM)
Got a lot of issues to get married too. My late cousin have to face a lot of issues just because he doesn't have a syed in front of his name in order to married sharifah  sweat.gif  sweat.gif  sweat.gif
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Not to mention, problem after marriage too.
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so many regulations, they should come out with a chart or something so that ppl can understand easier.

mana tau later ppl think this name sounds nice just put, nanti kena reject 99 pulak.
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QUOTE(maxpudding @ Aug 22 2012, 01:20 AM)
Dulu dulu non syed that marries sharifah their children put Wan
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Ok. This one is new to me. lol tongue.gif
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QUOTE(Nama saya Amad @ Aug 22 2012, 01:20 AM)
wakluuuu legend mana ko dgr nih? shocking.gif  shocking.gif
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It is not a legend la, you can trace the bloodline
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Chef wan also bloodline? No wonder he can cook
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QUOTE(boyot @ Aug 21 2012, 05:16 PM)
Isnt that malays name? Syed, tuanku, sayid?
Since when nabi muhammad bloodline using malays name? And arent the prophet bloodline were an arab to begin with?
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syed title is arabic (spelling varies). when the arab muslim traders came to melaka in 15th century, they married locals, hence their children and grand children carries the heriditary title.
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QUOTE(Nama saya Amad @ Aug 21 2012, 05:20 PM)
wakluuuu legend mana ko dgr nih? shocking.gif  shocking.gif
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wikipedia ada sayang:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sayyid
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My grandfather bloodlines have a syed, but he prefer not to passing the name to his son and daughter .. feel proud of it .. wub.gif wub.gif wub.gif
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QUOTE(Nama saya Amad @ Aug 22 2012, 01:20 AM)
wakluuuu legend mana ko dgr nih? shocking.gif  shocking.gif
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Wakluu back... Thats general knowledge... Some r Wan pretentious, but u can easily caught them if u can ask for their family tree... They called it as "clan".. For example my fren's al-idrus is 1 of the clan...
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QUOTE(Irzani @ Aug 21 2012, 05:24 PM)
My grandfather bloodlines have a syed, but he prefer not to passing the name to his son and daughter .. feel proud of it .. wub.gif  wub.gif  wub.gif
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my ex-classmate is one of the younger son of syed kadir (owner/founder of syed chain of restaurants), but somehow he didnt carry the syed name. but his two older brothers does.

he also dunno why.
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QUOTE(omara86 @ Aug 22 2012, 01:18 AM)
Pls refer my edited previous post...

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Wan/syed/sayid/tuanku is Nabi Muhammad's bloodline... For example, my fren is from al-idrus line, if u know their family tree u will understand..
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Yea man. A lot.

Al-Attas
Al-Sagoff
Al-Idrus
Al-Habshi
Al-Jefri
Al-Jamalullail
Al-Yahya
Al-Junaid
Al-Zawawi
Al-Munawwar
Al-Bhamadaj

To name a few... and the bond among families in each bloodline is quite strong.
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Nowadays those sharifahs that merrid non syed put their childrens name putera or puteri lol
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QUOTE(azarimy @ Aug 22 2012, 01:27 AM)
my ex-classmate is one of the younger son of syed kadir (owner/founder of syed chain of restaurants), but somehow he didnt carry the syed name. but his two older brothers does.

he also dunno why.
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not true son?
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QUOTE(pandah @ Aug 22 2012, 01:29 AM)
not true son?
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QUOTE(azarimy @ Aug 22 2012, 01:27 AM)
my ex-classmate is one of the younger son of syed kadir (owner/founder of syed chain of restaurants), but somehow he didnt carry the syed name. but his two older brothers does.

he also dunno why.
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Thats common for org2 lama... They hav their own reason.. For example, im from Abang family group but when rosli dhobi killed the british in sibu, my granpa hav to drop his title and runaway to indonesia to hide bcoz british was hunting the families... My granpa is his nephew... After 2 years held as PATI at indon prison then he and otherfamily members released and moved to kuching, to be exact, gedong... YB Abdul rahman & YB nordin is from d same family...

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QUOTE(azarimy @ Aug 22 2012, 01:02 AM)
start lah. family name is family name. this topic is talking about heriditary titles.
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i mean actually how ppl start have heriditary titles?
need certain duration like from zaman jepun or zaman before 1st WWW or zaman hang tuah or?

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QUOTE(maxpudding @ Aug 22 2012, 01:22 AM)
It is not a legend la, you can trace the bloodline
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mind helping me tracing the bloodline for wan, nik, tuanku, tengku? i'm more like an evil rather than an angel though blush.gif blush.gif

QUOTE(azarimy @ Aug 22 2012, 01:24 AM)
that's only syed (eventhough the sources from wiki doh.gif ) where's wan, tengku, tuanku, nik and etc..as far as I know, that's not even arabic word

QUOTE(omara86 @ Aug 22 2012, 01:25 AM)
Wakluu back... Thats general knowledge... Some r Wan pretentious, but u can easily caught them if u can ask for their family tree... They called it as "clan".. For example my fren's al-idrus is 1 of the clan...
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My family is from wan's 'clan'. my 2nd cousin is from Nik's clan. We never heard such thing as ourbloodline from Nabi Muhammad etc. It's kinda weird right when there's no other places that use wan and nik except Malaysia rolleyes.gif

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lol at delusional people who thinks name and bloodline will bring any special privilege and abilities to them

no. you're just human with 46 chromosomes, deal with it.
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QUOTE(ImanAzlan @ Aug 22 2012, 08:29 AM)
lol at delusional people who thinks name and bloodline will bring any special privilege and abilities to them

no. you're just human with 46 chromosomes, deal with it.
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watch your mouth. have you ever heard the name sasuke? he has what you do not have  tongue.gif
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mind helping me tracing the bloodline for wan, nik, tuanku, tengku? i'm more like an evil rather than an angel though blush.gif  blush.gif
that's only syed (eventhough the sources from wiki  doh.gif ) where's wan, tengku, tuanku, nik and etc..as far as I know, that's not even arabic word
My family is from wan's 'clan'. my 2nd cousin is from Nik's clan. We never heard such thing as ourbloodline from Nabi Muhammad etc. It's kinda weird right when there's no other places that use wan and nik except Malaysia  rolleyes.gif

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QUOTE(kucinggemok @ Aug 22 2012, 09:10 AM)
Kau ni salah bace ape orang tulis kat atas tu.
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Syed is not include..gg
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i dun want to brag, but im one of the prophet bloodline
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haih. again with malay and their obsession with titles. like it carry any weight in their grave. /facepalm
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QUOTE(boyot @ Aug 22 2012, 09:24 AM)
i dun want to brag, but im one of the prophet bloodline
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QUOTE(azarimy @ Aug 22 2012, 12:44 AM)
gelaran keturunan = heriditary title
chinese name = surname/family name
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my surname is tun. my name is tun ah kao.
i got a friend name rajakumal.
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have you guys heard the 7th descendant of famous Mahsuri?
what happen to her now?
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have you guys heard the 7th descendant of famous Mahsuri?
what happen to her now?
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QUOTE(Nama saya Amad @ Aug 22 2012, 01:16 AM)
yeke? ape yang salah  shocking.gif
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Kau salah baca.

Orang cakap, keturunan syed asal dari rasullullah.

Tapi takde sapa pun cakap tengku, raja and all that pun keturunan rasullullah. Itu heriditary titles kat msia aje. Syed is international.
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Tengku Djan?
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QUOTE(Danang @ Aug 22 2012, 12:46 AM)
kawan saya namanya rasul
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mana satu? yang perempuan tu?

no wonder mahsuri kena bunuh.
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i do hope that man is not the descendant of that person who accuse mahsuri for adultery back then
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bagus la.. dah la gene pool tak berkembang, nama pun sama.. tu yang otak pun lembab je tak improve
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i do hope that man is not the descendant of that person who accuse mahsuri for adultery back then
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already merrid sad.gif
i do hope that man is not the descendant of that person who accuse mahsuri for adultery back then
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QUOTE(Nama saya Amad @ Aug 22 2012, 12:37 AM)
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Najis Tun ??
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imam mahdi akan bernama Muhammad bin Abdullah
rilek je dia tak pakai said/sayid/syed/pepet ape haram jadah tah
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as if the name will give you special power
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QUOTE(jimbet1337 @ Aug 22 2012, 01:19 AM)
If I'm not mistaken,

Syed (male) marries Sharifah (female) = Can name their children Syed or Sharifah.

Syed (male) marries Non-Sharifah (female) = Can name their children Syed or Sharifah.

Non-Syed (male) marries Sharifah (female) = Cannot name their children Syed or Sharifah.
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Dulu dulu non syed that marries sharifah their children put Wan
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QUOTE(jimbet1337 @ Aug 22 2012, 01:28 AM)
Yea man. A lot.

Al-Attas
Al-Sagoff
Al-Idrus
Al-Habshi
Al-Jefri
Al-Jamalullail
Al-Yahya
Al-Junaid
Al-Zawawi
Al-Munawwar
Al-Bhamadaj

To name a few... and the bond among families in each bloodline is quite strong.
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QUOTE(nazrul90 @ Aug 22 2012, 02:13 AM)
lol

as if the name will give you special power
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Actually, it does.

Having tengku or raja means get out of jail free, easier to get projects and so on.
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QUOTE(azarimy @ Aug 22 2012, 10:57 AM)
Actually, it does.

Having tengku or raja means get out of jail free, easier to get projects and so on.
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that one really useless power
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QUOTE(zimhibikie @ Aug 22 2012, 10:35 AM)
This one applies to me..
My family...
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so?

what's the use of having the Syed or Sharifah name, when in reality .. drink beer, makan rasuah, main perempuan, kongkeng sana kongkenk sini.. lagi mau angkuh..

sudah2 la korang... jangan malukan islam...

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QUOTE(zimhibikie @ Aug 22 2012, 10:35 AM)
This one applies to me..
My family...
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Just curious. Do rivalry exists among bloodlines?
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nama nama ni bagi power ke macam power ranger? apasal negara-negara maju dan bertamadun, citizen dorang pakai nama biase je?
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QUOTE(azarimy @ Aug 22 2012, 10:57 AM)
Actually, it does.

Having tengku or raja means get out of jail free, easier to get projects and so on.
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not really, but it does give you a bit of an advantage when people are selecting your name from a list.
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QUOTE(omara86 @ Aug 22 2012, 01:18 AM)
Pls refer my edited previous post...

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Wan/syed/sayid/tuanku is Nabi Muhammad's bloodline... For example, my fren is from al-idrus line, if u know their family tree u will understand..
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QUOTE(mysa_strato @ Aug 22 2012, 12:04 PM)
lol anyone can put syed in front of their son's name
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nope.JPN wont allow..plus if you put it for fun, it will embarrass the person itself, making himself as a joke trying to be syed's
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nope.JPN wont allow..plus if you put it for fun, it will embarrass the person itself, making himself as a joke trying to be syed's
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really? i thought is just a name... its some kinda title or wat???
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lol anyone can put syed in front of their son's name
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its not about can or not, even if i wanna name my son bill gates also can... its about the pride of being in the family line.. nama syed tapi muka macam rempit indon, apa kelas...
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QUOTE(EP4Man @ Aug 22 2012, 11:24 AM)
so?

what's the use of having the Syed or Sharifah name, when in reality .. drink beer, makan rasuah, main perempuan, kongkeng sana kongkenk sini.. lagi mau angkuh..

sudah2 la korang... jangan malukan islam...
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jangan la generalize bro...ni baru je abis berpuasa, lu mau fitnah aku...ada ke angkuh, aku kasitau kenyataan je..nanti tak apsal2 ko susah nak mati..
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tengku adnan tengku mansor how? he claimed himself 1 of sultan melaka descendant
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Ali, Fatimah, Hassan and Hussien dont have syed and syarifah, why this group suka2 claim they from prophets bloodline? those arabs in saudi, yaman, egypt direct descendant from quraisy tribe pun keep cool je.

not to mention most syed syarifah in malaysia are syiah onli. ptuik!
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maybe she's from yada yada keturunan? for instance, if the mother is Raja and the husband tak ada nama keturunan, the anak will be Megat.
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QUOTE(retroRT @ Aug 22 2012, 01:48 PM)
Ali, Fatimah, Hassan and Hussien dont have syed and syarifah, why this group suka2 claim they from prophets bloodline? those arabs in saudi, yaman, egypt direct descendant from quraisy tribe pun keep cool je.

not to mention most syed syarifah in malaysia are syiah onli. ptuik!
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Ada orang memang angkuh, kalau respond 'Mak yg kasi nama' ok jugak. Ada yg melebih plak..
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huhu descendent from the prophet then i descendent from adam.

in b4 syed & sharifah must married each other
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hah. nah claim la sangat direct descendent from prophet muhammad. u guys are a disgrace to islam
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QUOTE(maxpudding @ Aug 22 2012, 01:20 AM)
Dulu dulu non syed that marries sharifah their children put Wan
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so, non sharifah marries syed, put Dowan?

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also, wan doesnt denote a descendent from the prophet's bloodline. you can get wan from east coast nobility, or if you are an issue of a tengku mother and commoner father.
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QUOTE(zimhibikie @ Aug 22 2012, 02:28 PM)
jangan la generalize bro...ni baru je abis berpuasa, lu mau fitnah aku...ada ke angkuh, aku kasitau kenyataan je..nanti tak apsal2 ko susah nak mati..
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keturunan raja
Raja Petra bin Raja Kamarudin LOL


Added on August 22, 2012, 3:06 pmwan & nik is KELANTAN

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my mom's has wan..married my dad who has no wan.

so my name dont carry wan..

my child also wont have wan since i dont carry it
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semua keturunan Adam & Hawa....
apasal nak beza2 kan sangat taraf di duniawi...
sistem2 ala kasta ni patut dicampak buang je...
masuk kubur tak boleh bawak...disoal jugak...
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Nama kawan saya Raja Agong true story.
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hahaha kejellian melampau pabila diperkatakan keturunan nabi

tak habes habes lagi nak debat sapa paling "tinggi"

dorang yang ada syed, syarifah tapi perangai macam shaiton tu dorang punya pasal lah, bring disgrace or whatsoever itu hal dia dengan Allah.

kesian commoners
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Whatever pangkat on your name you still have to work to earn $$ to put food on table right?

I got a fren whose name is Mohd Sultan and he is now a mamat angkut gas to houses...
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Ikut agama aku, semua descendent from adam and eve.

Btw, syed ngan sharifah ni kat malaysia and singapork je pakai. Berangan lebih.

See this link of hadrami people, from hadramaut, yemen. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hadhrami_people

All over the world, kat malaysia ngan singapore je ade this syed and sharifah.

Berangan lebih. Pfft!

Inb4 bin Laden family pun tak pakai syed & sharifah.
Inb4 superior sangat ke?

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all those tenku shit wan ect yg BLAGAK HEBAT tp ghey, mabuk, 3gp can go dai.

to me that is just a name. we are what we are. having shit tengku raja ect deosn make u superior. your personality, your deed, your iman matters the most.
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referring to last paragraph..missed out bcz dunno my doter oso can use the gelaran..so how?can rename?
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QUOTE(khalpowers @ Aug 22 2012, 03:54 PM)
bro..gua keturunan alhabsyie....hang geng syed mana..? biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(djlake @ Aug 22 2012, 04:55 PM)
Ikut agama aku, semua descendent from adam and eve.

Btw, syed ngan sharifah ni kat malaysia and singapork je pakai. Berangan lebih.

See this link of hadrami people, from hadramaut, yemen. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hadhrami_people

All over the world, kat malaysia ngan singapore je ade this syed and sharifah.

Berangan lebih. Pfft!

Inb4 bin Laden family pun tak pakai syed & sharifah.
Inb4 superior sangat ke?
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nope, a lot of sayyid descendants from yemeni in malaysia still have contacts with sayyids from yemen, and they are still using syeds and syariffahs

it's a hereditary title, one that can be abused and bring either fortune or disgrace to the family

bukan berangan, tapi these families have their own strict rules for them to follow

but for some families, the rules are not followed anymore
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What happen if we register the kid's name outside of malaysia since they were born there, but with gelaran.
Later balik malaysia kena tukar nama ka?
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i got the Wan title. now wheres my money?
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What happen if we register the kid's name outside of malaysia since they were born there, but with gelaran.
Later balik malaysia kena tukar nama ka?
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I'm not sure, but I dont think they can force you anyways

Because clearly in your birth cert your name has a gelaran, registered and stamped by the local registrar over the sea
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i got the Wan title. now wheres my money?
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QUOTE(maxpudding @ Aug 22 2012, 04:53 PM)
ramainya butthurttt...

hahaha kejellian melampau pabila diperkatakan keturunan nabi

tak habes habes lagi nak debat sapa paling "tinggi"

dorang yang ada syed, syarifah tapi perangai macam shaiton tu dorang punya pasal lah, bring disgrace or whatsoever itu hal dia dengan Allah.

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if they do nvm la
if poor pipu must potong tangan lokap saman etc.
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if they do nvm la
if poor pipu must potong tangan lokap saman etc.
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QUOTE(dv8syun @ Aug 22 2012, 05:17 PM)
exactly
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that one does not only entitled to someone with any gelaran also can what

why bias? heuheuheu
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QUOTE(maxpudding @ Aug 22 2012, 05:22 PM)
that one does not only entitled to someone with any gelaran also can what

why bias? heuheuheu
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exactly
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post Aug 22 2012, 05:24 PM

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megat how ?

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QUOTE(maxpudding @ Aug 22 2012, 05:07 PM)
nope, a lot of sayyid descendants from yemeni in malaysia still have contacts with sayyids from yemen, and they are still using syeds and syariffahs

it's a hereditary title, one that can be abused and bring either fortune or disgrace to the family

bukan berangan, tapi these families have their own strict rules for them to follow

but for some families, the rules are not followed anymore
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Thank god my grandpa did not follow the strict rules and cut off all ties.

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QUOTE(djlake @ Aug 22 2012, 05:25 PM)
Thank god my grandpa did not follow the strict rules and cut off all ties.

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QUOTE(maxpudding @ Aug 22 2012, 04:53 PM)
ramainya butthurttt...

hahaha kejellian melampau pabila diperkatakan keturunan nabi

tak habes habes lagi nak debat sapa paling "tinggi"

dorang yang ada syed, syarifah tapi perangai macam shaiton tu dorang punya pasal lah, bring disgrace or whatsoever itu hal dia dengan Allah.

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ye betul, punya pasal derang dengan tuhan. tapi berlagak keturunan nabi, perangai cam syaiton, merosakkan nama islam. tunjuk perangai macam syaiton depan non-muslim. tonggang arak kat hard rock cafe kalah mr. mutusamy. macam mana la non-muslim nak respect islam. macam mana la non-muslim tak keliru dgn apa itu islam yg sebenar. bila dah main pasal islam. itu dah jadi tugas semua muslim, umat muhammad macam aku tegakkan. paham. tak paham. pergi sekolah, tanya ustaz balik. ini semua nak cakap, hal depa hal depa la.

panggil bodoh marah. tapi otak yg Allah bagi tak guna. nak berlagak pulak tu.

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Yang membezakan kita di sisi allah adalah iman dan taqwa.

hehehehe

Ustaz amad has spoken
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QUOTE(jimbet1337 @ Aug 22 2012, 01:28 AM)
Yea man. A lot.

Al-Attas
Al-Sagoff
Al-Idrus
Al-Habshi
Al-Jefri
Al-Jamalullail
Al-Yahya
Al-Junaid
Al-Zawawi
Al-Munawwar
Al-Bhamadaj

To name a few... and the bond among families in each bloodline is quite strong.
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some mamak also put syed or sharifah if they were born on malam jumaat.

best example? syed mokhtar al bukhary.

the place called bukhara isn't even on the arab peninsula, lagi mau tipu kononnya berasal dari tanah arab....

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QUOTE(Faidzal @ Aug 23 2012, 02:16 PM)
some mamak also put syed or sharifah if they were born on malam jumaat.

best example? syed mokhtar al bukhary.

the place called bukhara isn't even on the arab peninsula, lagi mau tipu kononnya berasal dari tanah arab....
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nasi briyani bukhara??.. nom..nom..nom biggrin.gif
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in sabah i know 1 guy named datu salleh with brother name panglima awang, a bugis descendent now work as bus conductor biggrin.gif

mebbe when they have kids can gt datu panglima
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megat also cannot?
I tot megat is normal name?
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megat sounds like a pahlawan name liou
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how bout meggi?

can or not
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QUOTE(mrg220t @ Aug 23 2012, 01:50 PM)
megat also cannot?
I tot megat is normal name?
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cannot. If the mother Raja, the father biasa, the anak will become Megat.
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tumpang tanya kalau ada gelaran 'Tunku, Tengku, Raja, Wan dan Megat '
boleh bawa masuk kubur tak ?

Setahu hamba bila di padang Mahsyar apa yang membedakan umat ialah pahala amalanya bukan harta ataupun gelaran

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inb4 butthurt gtfo
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post Aug 23 2012, 07:50 PM

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who want to have a child named Megat or Puteri can pm me. we can make one together.
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Some families prefer not to put their descendants with those gelaran "Syed", "Wan" thingy. One of those reasons coz it is related to their past history...example some of the clans had been associated with bad traits (e.g. panas baran) in the past.

But really their salasilah thingy very confusing liao to trace, not to mention have their own pantang larang as well. Although I believe current generations not giving a fark about it lol.
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QUOTE(sickx @ Aug 23 2012, 07:50 PM)
who want to have a child named Megat or Puteri can pm me. we can make one together.
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I want .. can I pm you?
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sickx ko Megat ke? asal Perak?
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QUOTE(Irzani @ Aug 23 2012, 08:53 PM)
I want .. can I pm you?
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i dun wan gay pipu

QUOTE(nazq @ Aug 23 2012, 08:55 PM)
sickx ko Megat ke? asal Perak?
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yes, captain obvious! here's a rock:

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QUOTE(sickx @ Aug 23 2012, 09:35 PM)
yes, captain obvious! here's a rock:

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Bro, lect aku tgh cari susur galur keturunan dia. Megat dr Perak juga weh. Ko berminat?

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