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 [Official] Rig Suggestion Thread V1, Hardware Q&A RRG™

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post Sep 8 2012, 12:39 PM

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QUOTE(dlwl @ Sep 8 2012, 12:35 PM)
thanks guys for your replies, awesome man thumbup.gif
got a few questions to ask.

1. Core i7 3770 and Xeon E3-1230 - What's the difference between both the processors? Looking at the price, can I assume the performance of i7 3770 > Xeon E3-1230?
2. Is it better to include a third party CPU cooler in, or can stock fan do the job?
3. GTX550Ti vs GT640, which one is a better performing chip?
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Xeon E3-1230 V2 (make sure its v2, ivy bridge) = i7-2600
a stock hsf will do the work since u wont be ocing
the 640 would be better if confirmed its GDDR5 and not GDDR3


Added on September 8, 2012, 12:42 pm
QUOTE(AIAF @ Sep 8 2012, 12:36 PM)
Hi guys,

Need help in buying a new pc. Not sure if this is ok cause I don't see other people asking this question around here.  I'm not very pro in pc lingo (eg: overclocking?) but I'll try my best to give you guys more details.

What I intend to do with the PC: Graphics software (lightroom, photoshop, illustrator, occasional after effects and video editing), gaming (I play some first person shooter games but the graphics dont have to be at highest levels) + all usual stuff like internet, office etc etc

My budget: 2.5k, could be more or less depends on your suggestions. Also I don't need a monitor and speakers as I already have them.

Here's the vague part, would appreciate it if anyone could suggest a suitable specs for my requirements above and also tips on cooling, power supply, etc. Kinda frustrating when you get home with a new comp then after a few days you just realise there's a tonne of problems with it.

Also, where's the best place to get a desktop in KL? Still lowyat? IF it's possible I hope to get everything in one shop, or at least just 2 shops that are nearby.

If it's possible I want to get one within a few days, as I'm heading back to my uni and my desktop harddisk just crashed so I'm leaving that at home for repairs.

Any guidance would be much appreciated!
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dunno bout graphics software and stuffs but u can look for forumers like lingloong or idealtech, their stuffs are usually cheaper

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post Sep 8 2012, 01:15 PM

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QUOTE(dlwl @ Sep 8 2012, 01:05 PM)
ok, thanks smile.gif
checked viewnet's pricelist and what is listed is Xeon E3-1240 V2 RM849.
from what I googled, seems to be pretty close performance to i7 3770. So I go ahead with this one? biggrin.gif

and another thing, what I should be looking for in the GC specs now is the CUDA cores / shader units right? Besides the raw performance...since it's for MATLAB hmm.gif
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just get the 1230, 1240 is just 100mhz faster
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post Sep 8 2012, 01:30 PM

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QUOTE(AIAF @ Sep 8 2012, 01:26 PM)
Both are shops in lowyat?
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no they are not forumers that are trusted, btw idealtech have a few sellers so just look out for people with the logo
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QUOTE(AIAF @ Sep 8 2012, 02:31 PM)
Aa I get it now, thanks! But I think I would prefer buying in person.
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they do have shops, u just need to arrange the meetings with them


Added on September 8, 2012, 6:53 pm
QUOTE(quest_5692 @ Sep 8 2012, 02:29 PM)
hi, im on a DIY egpu project, I would like to ask for suitable portable psu.

i have
x1 PE4L 2.1b http://www.hwtools.net/adapter/PE4L-EC000A.html

now need
x1 GPU
x1 compatible PSU

because only fermi/kepler do PCI-E compression so my choice is one of those only. i saw garage sale someone selling 2nd hand gtx 560, 2nd hand gtx580, i want to ask what PSU should i buy to match that. (i was suggested to get a gtx 660ti + cx430 PSU)
i dont want a full ledge ATX PSU like corsair cx430, got something portable like this? i think he bought a small one that can fit inside that DIY box. i want to DIY a box that can fit my PSU n GPU also.
http://s4.noelshack.com/uploads/images/140...86581_egpu2.jpg
http://s4.noelshack.com/uploads/images/196...48434_egpu3.jpg
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i dont really know how EGPU gonna work but 660ti is overpriced, what is ur budget anyways?

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post Sep 8 2012, 11:13 PM

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QUOTE(budak nakal @ Sep 8 2012, 11:07 PM)
Hi,

I need your help regarding below:

[Budget] 6k

[Purpose] 3d design, graphic image, HD video processing

This rig also will be used to host 4 VM for my brother company SAP playground box (training purpose) as he just started a consultation company for SAP

This VM will need minimum 8gb dedicated ram on it to run normally without lag.

The design or video processing will be use on demand only as that is my part time but the video that I'll be process can up to 300fps.

[Hardware that will be reuse from old rig] 2 X 24inch monitor, keyboard, mouse

[Monitor resolution] 1920 x 1280

[Game or software that use frequently]

1. Adobe Photoshop, Premier, and Illustrator.(Can say most of the adobe products)
2. Sony Vegas and Pinnacle Studio HD
3. as for music i'll use fruity loops for the beginning
4. Autodesk Maya
5. Cinema 4D
6. SAP product

[Personal Preference Brand] None

Thanks

p/s: btw, is there any intel socket 1155 mobo that have more than 4 ram slot?
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cant quote u, sleeping soon tongue.gif probably can throw in an i7 3960X
anways theres no 8slot 1155 mobo

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post Sep 9 2012, 08:46 PM

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QUOTE(awh85 @ Sep 9 2012, 08:15 PM)
gf's rig

[Budget]
RM1800 for CPU, RM400 for LCD

[Purpose]
Compiling with eclipse, running vm, install android sdk, visual studio 2010.

[Hardware that will be reuse from old rig]
none

[Monitor resolution]
1920x1080, 23" or 24"

[Game or software that use frequently]
see purpose above.

[Personal Preference Brand]
none.

prefer to save on GPU, want built in graphics, dont need high end psu, hsf, etc. if possible, want a cpu that is not too hot as no air-conditioning in the room. idling temps of 20-30+ degrees possible with today's cpus?
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Intel i7-3770 RM909
MSI B75MA-P45 RM224
Kingston Value Ram 4GB x2 RM128
WD Blue 500GB RM190
Gigabyte Powerock 420W power supply RM89
Lite-On 22x DVD-RW RM59
Gigabyte GZ Series RM59
Dell UltraSharp U2312HM RM589

Total: RM2247

Hope can spend abit more on that monitor, satisfaction guaranteed sweat.gif

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post Sep 10 2012, 01:11 AM

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QUOTE(awh85 @ Sep 9 2012, 10:10 PM)
for app development yet.. thought the i7 would be an overkill.. even myself never had a RM900+ processor before, still a few generations behind with an x4 9550.
ok cincai.
ya.. no gaming.. not even watching movies.

if can cut down on the proc, then can save about 400. the budget dont have to maximize it lol..
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idk what ur gf is gonna do but if u want to run vm and do  some multitasking, vm can eat up to 2 cores, if u dun wanna spend more on proc the just get i5

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QUOTE(zerohunter @ Sep 10 2012, 01:17 AM)
I suggest take the Xeon one better , same quad core with HT , i5 no HT

@Asstoast , are u sleepy again ? Hehe
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lying on bed, looking at phone tongue.gif
btw get xeon need get graphics card whistling.gif

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QUOTE(cloud8992 @ Sep 10 2012, 01:26 AM)
hi to all sifu here i am cracking my head about my new rig i dont know what to chose from but i got a quotation from CyntrixTech but still a little confuse PLS help

i5 3570K - RM 6xx
Asrock extreme 4- RM 4xx OR (msi z77a-gd65)
8GB G.Skill Ripjaws X 1600 CL9 - RM 1xx
Intel SSD 330 60GB - RM 2xx (is this SSD good ?)
Palit GTX 670 Reference - RM 11xx (thinking about 680)<< how much reference
Dell U2312HM, Color calibrated - RM 5xx
Bitfenix Alchemy Blue Sleeved cables - 24,8,pcie - RM 129
Want to play WC in future (no budget right now )
XSPC D5 EX240 kit - RM 879 (D5 EX280 kit available as well)
XSPC Razor GTX 670 FC block - RM 3xx
XSPC Razor GTX 670 Backplate - RM 8x
Sleeve kit - RM
2 x XSPC Compression fittings - RM 30 (for GPU)
RM 4798
and casing what full tower casing is good CyntrixTech advice me to take nzxt switch 810
AND THANKS FOR HELPING
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can just get normal value ram if ur not going for looks
Intel ssd are good
reference gtx680 is about rm1500, opt for msi gtx 670 power edition instead rm1399 from zerohunter brows.gif
duno about wc but maybe 400r for casing?


Added on September 10, 2012, 1:53 amthe msi mobo if going for blue color theme biggrin.gif
even the msi gtx670 is blue drool.gif

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QUOTE(cloud8992 @ Sep 10 2012, 11:57 AM)
ok to make things straight  my budget is above 3k maybe 4k and casing psu and hdd is not required
things need is
processor,GPU ,mobo ,ram,ssd,monitor
monitor is fixed dell u2312hm
if you count the item i listed is still under 4k but of coz with out the cpu cooler but that want only rm1++ nvm
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so in the end is

OC: YES
WC: YES

U HAVE:
HDD
PSU

U WANT:
PROC
MOBO
GPU
RAM
SSD
MONITOR
CASING

Budget: RM3k-4k for the things u want?

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QUOTE(ikan_semilang @ Sep 10 2012, 01:30 PM)
Recommend setup intel to me...need proc,mobo....
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Intel Core i3-2100 RM339
MSI H61M-P31 B3 RM149

Total: RM488
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QUOTE(ikan_semilang @ Sep 10 2012, 01:56 PM)
TQ guys..just for my bro little gaming only...his using old 9800GT..so i think this item enough right? Can beat AMD FX 4100?
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Can beat FX4100 by alot


Added on September 10, 2012, 2:06 pm
QUOTE(Lucassss @ Sep 10 2012, 01:44 PM)
[Budget] Not the issue.

[Purpose] Home server, VM, decoding and has to be as quiet as possible.

[Monitor resolution] I have my own.

[Personal Preference Brand] Looking for a dual E5 setup, Corsair and Asus.
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can take a look at anandtech's latest build

http://www.anandtech.com/show/6241/buildin...oho-nas-testbed

quite similar, got Asus, got dual E5 thumbup.gif

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QUOTE(cloud8992 @ Sep 10 2012, 02:08 PM)
ok make it simple i want water cooling set in the future but not now until i research enough ok(means want space for upgrade )so i need a better casing which this dont bother 1st) ?
so mobo
i am choosing between asrock extreme 4 or msi z77a-gd65
than i think i go with a 670 reference design
and i5 3570k and a pair of ram that all need
just need advice is this setup ok ?? because i want my rig to last as long as possible .
i already got hdd , psu and casing if sold my i buy new if not stick with it clear ?and yes i am not sure what i need.
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Mid tower is perfectly okay for WC, take zero's case for example
Why get so expensive motherboard when u dun wanna SLI
if u not going for looks, no nid performance ram

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QUOTE(chocobo7779 @ Sep 10 2012, 07:04 PM)
If you want an ASUS board.... Consider this one...
P8B75M LX for the same price.
Are you really sure the HD7870 is only RM750? shocking.gif
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probably put wrong, should be 7850 whistling.gif


Added on September 10, 2012, 7:27 pmor RM850


Added on September 10, 2012, 7:31 pm
QUOTE(selikatwo @ Sep 10 2012, 06:59 PM)
my friends want to buy a gaming rig, budget less rm2k
can some one recommend me a motherboard (i prefer ASUS)from this rm2k rig suggestion because i don't like to recommend MSI motherboard to my friend.

RM2k
» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «
-Better mobo for USB 3.0 support
-Better, cooler graphics card

Intel I3-2100 RM339
MSI B75MA-P45 RM224 <<<<<<<<<<<< recommend me ASUS mobo
Sapphire HD7870 Ghz edition RM 750
Kingston Value Ram 4GB RM64
WD Blue 1TB HDD RM254
FSP Hexa 500W RM149
Xigmatek Asgard Pro/CM Elite 311+/Strike One Advance [casing] RM170
Any DVD rom/writer RM60

Total: RM 2010
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any reason u dont like MSI? one of the best mobo out there

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QUOTE(selikatwo @ Sep 10 2012, 07:52 PM)
motherboard colour
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should ask ur fren which one he likes, or ask him ok anot the MSI, coz Asus RMA can take very long
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QUOTE(noobgeek @ Sep 10 2012, 10:01 PM)
hi.. so str8 to the point..
[Budget] 2.5k

[Purpose] Gaming/Movie/Internet

[Hardware that will be reuse from old rig]
1) chasis = Aerocool Sycylone
2) all hardisk/speaker/mouse and keyboard

[Monitor resolution] 1080

[Game or software that use frequently] Dota 2/HoN (daily).. and all other game actually..

[Personal Preference Brand] none
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Intel i5-3470 RM579
MSI B75MA-P45 RM224
Leadtek GTX670 RM1129 Lingloong @ garage sales
Kingston Value Ram 4GB x2 RM128
FSP Hexa 500W RM149
Any DVD rom/writer RM60

Total: RM2269

Can consider a few new cases:
Xigmatek Asgard Pro RM170 (good cable management & side window)
CM Elite 311+ RM140
Strike One Advance RM140
Comes with USB 3.0
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QUOTE(gruntz99 @ Sep 11 2012, 03:35 PM)
wau u dont like it because the colour or what?


Added on September 11, 2012, 3:35 pm
wau u dont like it because the colour or what?


Added on September 11, 2012, 3:37 pm
ah, I'll take this one.
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anyways TS the Xigmatek can get for RM159 at jayacom
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QUOTE(amxpayne67 @ Sep 11 2012, 06:05 PM)
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Thanks for the suggestion, i forgot to write that i already have the casing sweat.gif .Only need the system and monitor.


Added on September 11, 2012, 6:06 pm

All the cpu does come with their stock cooler (HSF). IMHO if no overclocking there's no need for aftermarket cooler.
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any reason u wanna get the mobo ? if cut down cost can get HD7870


Added on September 11, 2012, 6:31 pmso if minus casing

Intel Core i3 3220 3.3GHz RM389
Asrock H77 Pro4/MVP RM299
Kingston 1333 DDR3 4GB RM64
SAPPHIRE HD 7850 2GB RM695
Gigabyte Powerock 500W PSU RM150
WD Caviar Blue 1TB HDD RM240
Lite-On 22x DVDRW RM59
LG IPS2240T 21.5" Monitor RM439

Total: RM2335

If chg mobo

Intel Core i3 3220 3.3GHz RM389
MSI B75MA-P45 RM224
Kingston 1333 DDR3 4GB RM64
SAPPHIRE HD 7870 GHz Edition 2GB RM839
Gigabyte Powerock 500W PSU RM150
WD Caviar Blue 1TB HDD RM240
Lite-On 22x DVDRW RM59
LG IPS2240T 21.5" Monitor RM439

Total: RM2404

Can also get WD Caviar Blue 500GB RM190 then add in another stick of ram

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QUOTE(noobfc @ Sep 11 2012, 07:12 PM)
Hello, asking on behalf of my friend

So a friend of mine is getting a new pc, but he want a pc that cost around 2k mainly to play Dota 2

So he was quoted these specs

i5 3470
Asus P8H77 - MLE
RAM
750 GB HDD
Leadtek GT630 2GB
500 watts PSU
DVD reader
Casing
Win 7HP OEM

i did some calculation its around RM 2.2k

So i'm wondering whether these specs do justice for the price mainly the processor and GPU and what modifications are needed to get the best value for the price. Thanks

(No brand preference, and no other accessories to be included)
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Well if u dint post it here, u fren might have got cheated,
GT630 is not for gaming, no brand for HDD, PSU, Casing? he might put it in some cheap stuffs and make it look like its good, with RM2000 u could get a pc that can play battlefield 3 without problem at Ultra

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QUOTE(noobfc @ Sep 11 2012, 07:24 PM)
any suggestion to save him  icon_idea.gif
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Intel Core i3 3220 3.3GHz RM389
MSI B75MA-P45 RM224
Kingston Value Ram 4GB x2 RM128
SAPPHIRE HD 7850 2GB RM695 Lingloong / Zhen^Wei @ Garage Sales
WD Caviar Blue 500GB RM190
FSP Hexa 500W RM149
CM Elite 311+/Strike One Advance RM140
Lite-On 22x DVDRW RM59
Windows Home Basic OEM RM229

Total: RM2000 FLAT brows.gif
Home Basic is enough laugh.gif
If ur fren plan to play new games coming out in the future, can get
SAPPHIRE HD 7870 GHz Edition 2GB RM839 thumbup.gif

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