ryan giggs posted that on his facebook earlier, that troll!

de gea!
why no kagawa?

then y did SAF start Welbeck?

Watched the replay, and I thought the same. Miscommunication or no communication at all? Simple mistakes like that could cost us the league title. Then again, it is the first game. Everton is a hard team to beat, especially at home. Hopefully we will get the whole squad back soon, especially Rio. He is the former captain, and he is very vocal, and I am sure he would organized the defence during the set pieces.

Not an ideal start, but it wasn't that bad. Just that Everton played very well defensively.

They tried to play through the middle in the first half, but it was too disjointed, too congested. Which lead to my remark that we are lacking width to spread their defenses a bit in the first half. Doesn't help that most corners doesn't beat the first man/no one attacking the post.

Some of the intricate passes are just behind the intended player, some are a bit overhit, a few first touches are just a bit heavy that their defenders can press instantly. Seems like they are trying to feel each other out. Hence, it is still early on.

gip chance i guess?

hopefully evans will be back nex weekend...at least a proper centreback pairing to start a game

even if our defense blows,attack is also the best defense.attack should make up for the defense flaw.

I understand the frustration. But your suggestion is easier said than done.

We're talking about playing a young, inexperienced centerback against a well drilled and organized team like Everton. They'll just get raped. That just doesn't make sense no matter how you look at it. Carrick has experience and will always be the better choice. I agree with SAF completely here.

Everton are simply fearsome in set pieces even without Tim Cahill.

Actually I thought the team did try to play through the middle. Unfortunately Everton were simply too good in defence and did a damn good job crowding out the middle, forcing United to push the ball out wide. where United were simply ineffective with their crosses.

RVP too new to the team, Welbeck has a "bit" of form, and he's a bit biased to a locally-raised striker. (Welbeck is United born-and-bred).

I am thinking he is intending for Chicha to be the OGS in his comparision of the '99 strikeforce.

This post has been edited by mistabean: Aug 21 2012, 05:53 AM

-liked Kagawa's game today, noticed scholesy doesnt like passing to him
-scholesy, cleverly, kagawa quite similar styles
- Rooney is struggling as target man. he should be shadow striker
- Evra needs wake up call
- we are starting to take De Gea for granted
- Nani still lack decision making skill
- Vidic looked alot thinner!

dunno i hope its not stated in the contract that hemust start.lol.

RVP was only signed few days back right? expecting him to start straightaway???

lets face it, in this so called modern era of football, defense is the priority, arguably only the current Barcelona can get away with the attacking style, even Real Madrid rely on defense first to win titles

SAF should buy a new centre back
Rio cannot play in every game because of injury
and jones and smalling r always injured
it's not fun if we don't play our best eleven

well i was replying to another poster who called welbeck a sissy, so if he's indeed a sissy and lousy as claimed by said poster, why SAF keeps on trusting him?

it's quite obvious some fans underestimated everton

anyway full credit to them, deserving win...not gonna pull out some shit like ref was crap/bias like the fans of the other merseyside team

This post has been edited by SGSuser: Aug 21 2012, 06:01 AM

not to mention trained by RVN...well kinda....in that video lah

means he is level up already!

to be honest nowadays whenever an opponent shoots on target i am just expecting him to somehow palm it away, not really bothered by him anymore lol

I've been thinking about this for some time and unless someone can come up with a better explanation, I can only come to the conclusion that this was a mistake made by one of the players, normally the full back. There can simply be no excuse to not guard your posts during a corner against a team of Everton's calibre.

That's what I think as well. They tried playing through the middle but Everton defended very well and did a good job congesting the middle. There was simply not enough fluency (maybe because the team wasn't used to playing like this) to break Everton's rock solid defence.

Actually United did have width in the form of Evra and Valencia. The problem was like what you said, the crossing was too poor and often couldn't beat the first man. And you highlighted another good point. No one attacked the posts. I think this was because the team was simply too disorganized and unfamiliar with the new playing style which is a mix of pass through middle and crossing from sides.

That's easier said than done.

I agree. RVP was simply too new to the team. I cannot understand why people are questioning this decision. He only joined days ago. How the hell is he supposed to suddenly bed into the team who are themselves playing an unfamiliar style of football against a rock solid team like Everton?

SAF went with the safe choice and I agree with that decision. It would've been a draw if not for that silly goal that the team conceded from not guarding their near post in a corner.

This post has been edited by +Newbie+: Aug 21 2012, 06:09 AM

because for fans: world class player+big transfer fees+huge wages=must perform immediately even though you'd barely had any pre season