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post Feb 4 2006, 03:18 PM, updated 18y ago

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Established: 1993 by Peter Sauber
First Grand Prix: 1993, South African Grand Prix

BMW Sauber F1, Wildbachstr 9, CH 8340, Hinwil, Switzerland.
Tel: +41 19379000
Fax: +41 19379001

Website: www.bmw-sauber-f1.com



Drivers
Nick Heidfeld
Robert Kubica


Key Personnel

Team Principal and CEO: Mario Theissen
Technical Director: Willy Rampf
Head of Vehicle Engineering: Jacky Eeckelaert
Head of Aerodynamics: Seamus Mullarkey
Team Manager: Beat Zehnder
Chief Mechanic: Urs Kuratle
Race engineer for Villeneuve: Giampaolo Dall'Ara
Race engineer for Heidfeld: Mike Krack


TECHNICAL SPECIFICATION BMW Sauber F1.08

Chassis: carbon-fibre monocoque

Suspension: upper and lower wishbones (front and rear), inboard springs and dampers, actuated by pushrods (Sachs Race Engineering)

Brakes: six-piston brake callipers (Brembo), carbon pads and discs (Brembo, Carbone Industrie)

Transmission: 7-speed quick shift gearbox, longitudinally mounted, carbon-fibre clutch (AP)

Chassis electronics: MES Steering wheel: BMW Sauber F1 Team

Tyres: Bridgestone Potenza

Wheels: OZ

Dimensions:

length 4,600 mm

width 1,800 mm

height 1,000 mm

track width, front 1,470 mm

track width, rear 1,410 mm

wheelbase 3,130 mm

Weight: 605 kg (incl. driver, tank empty)

BMW P86/8 - technical data. Type: normally aspirated V8

Bank angle: 90 degrees

Displacement: 2,400 cc

Valves: four per cylinder

Valve train: pneumatic

Engine block: aluminium

Cylinder head: aluminium Crankshaft: steel

Oil system: dry sump lubrication

Engine management: standard ECU (MES) Spark plugs: NGK

Pistons: aluminium

Connecting rods: titanium

Dimensions:

length: 518 mm
width: 555 mm
height: 595 mm (overall)

Weight: 95 kg

Maximum engine speed: 19,000 rpm

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2005 In June, Peter Sauber announces he is to step down as team principal after negotatiating takeover by BMW for 2006.

2004 Major wind tunnel investment pays off handsomely with impressively consistent season. Score points in 12 races to finish a lonely sixth in the constructors' table. Sign former champion Jacques Villeneuve for 2005.

2003 Difficult season, scoring points at only five races, usually in wet conditions. Best result at Indianapolis, with Heinz-Harald Frentzen third and Nick Heidfeld fifth. US race also sees team lead a Grand Prix for the first time. Both drivers dropped for 2004. Finish sixth in constructors' championship.

2002 11 points is enough to give Sauber fifth place in the Constructors' Championship. The best result of the season is fourth and fifth in the Spanish Grand Prix.

2001 The team's best ever season with fourth place in the Constructors' Championship.

2000 Sauber finishes eighth in the Constructors' Championship with only six points. The highest finishes were two fifth places in Germany and Monaco. Both cars are withdrawn from the Brazilian Grand Prix after spectacular rear wing failures.

1997 The team's best performance of the season is Herbert's third in the Hungarian Grand Prix.

1996 Johnny Herbert finishes third for the team at the Monaco Grand Prix, team mate Frentzen taking fourth place. The team finishes seventh in the Constructors' Championship.

1995 The team achieves its first podium as Heinz-Harald Frentzen finishes third at Monza.

1993 The Sauber team manages a scoring finish in its first Grand Prix with J. J. Lehto taking fifth in South Africa. The team end the season sixth in the Constructors' Championship with 12 points.

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QUOTE(no name @ Feb 4 2006, 03:25 PM)
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cool...yeah good for Petronas..hehe sponsored by Intel thumbup.gif
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petronas lost their corporate colors
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mclaren mercedez -mobil
ferrari -shell
bmw sauber - petronas
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QUOTE(Lurker @ Feb 4 2006, 03:35 PM)
petronas lost their corporate colors
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ya la......no green colour....but at least GOT PETRONAS LOGOS ALL OVER THE CAR....
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QUOTE(Lurker @ Feb 4 2006, 03:35 PM)
petronas lost their corporate colors
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AL THE COLOUR MATCH..WHITE BLUE AND READ..BUT SUDDENTLY HAS GREEN COLOUR AT THE NOSE OF THE CAR
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I hate J Villeneuve.
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QUOTE(kb2005 @ Feb 4 2006, 03:46 PM)
I hate J Villeneuve.
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why????ok what 1997 winner
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Formula 1 Career Record:
Starts: 97
Wins: 1
Pole Positions: 0
Fastest Laps: 0
Points: 56
Career Highlights:
1994 - German Formula Ford Series, Champion
1995 - German Formula Ford Series, 2nd
1996 - German F3 Championship, 3rd
1997 - German F3 Champion
1998 - F3000 Championship, 2nd
1999 - F3000 Champion
2000 - F1 with Prost Peugeot, 0 Pts. 20th
2001 - F1 with Sauber Petronas, 12 Pts. 8th
2002 - F1 with Sauber Petronas, 7 Pts. 10th
2003 - F1 with Sauber Petronas, 6 Pts. 14th
2004 - F1 with Jordan Ford, 3 Pts. 18th
2005 - F1 with Williams BMW
2006 - F1 with BMW Sauber F1

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QUOTE(exxelyx @ Feb 4 2006, 03:49 PM)
why????ok what 1997 winner
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thats 9 yrs ago...
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Formula 1 Career Record:
Starts: 149
Wins: 11
Pole Positions: 13
Fastest Laps: 9
Points: 228
Career Highlights:
1991 - Italian F3 Championship
1992 - Japanese F3 Championship, 2nd
1993 - Formula Atlantic with Team Forsythe Green, 2nd
1994 - CART Series, 6th, 1 Win, Rookie of the year
1995 - CART Series Champion, 4 wins
1996 - F1 with Williams Renault, 78 Pts. 2nd, 4 Wins
1997 - F1 World Champion with Williams Renault, 81 Pts. 7 Wins
1998 - F1 with Williams Mecachrome, 21 Pts. 5th
1999 - F1 with British American Racing, 0 Pts. 22nd
2000 - F1 with British American Racing, 17 Pts. 7th
2001 - F1 with British American Racing, 12 Pts. 7th
2002 - F1 with British American Racing, 4 Pts, 12th
2003 - F1 with B.A.R, 6 Pts. 16th
2004 - F1 with Renault (3 races)
2005 - F1 with Sauber Petronas, 9 Pts, 14th
2006 - F1 with BMW Sauber F1

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thanks exxelyx for new info...
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QUOTE(exxelyx @ Feb 4 2006, 03:49 PM)
why????ok what 1997 winner
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He used to complain a lot on M Schumacher. That's why i hate him.
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Right on. shakehead.gif

No name, need to write in such big fonts ka? laugh.gif
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My support goes to the BMW Sauber team when the season starts. Its because Heidfeld is there. I hope to see what he can do with the new car. To me he's a very solid driver and can deliver the results if the car is competitive.
As for Villenueve, hope he doesn't take out his team mate again during over taking manouvers tongue.gif
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used to be Souber fan... till BMW takes over.... and FYI its not only the words that count, but the colours too.... i didn noticed the word Petronas at first look... coz of the deep blue colour...

summore the teams colour suks.... i know BMW corporate colour is blue... but make it nicer lerr doh.gif like Toyota did.... BTW, Jack is such a lousy driver.... not a single race last year he missed without making mistakes... not small mistakes... but BIG one... doh.gif doh.gif doh.gif

ut im expecting them to make a huge debut this year... with all new engine.... the car has changed alot frm last year..... most notable is the front wing... thumbup.gif
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Jaques is too old for all this.
Petronas is not the main sponsor, so no green color
BMW Racing color (all racing, not just F1) is Blue, White and a little Red.
If they want to win, get rid of Jaques quickly
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but fr current testing he seems to be competitive
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QUOTE(linkinstreet @ Feb 4 2006, 11:55 PM)
Jaques is too old for all this.
Petronas is not the main sponsor, so no green color
BMW Racing color (all racing, not just F1) is Blue, White and a little Red.
If they want to win, get rid of Jaques quickly
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so who should replace our jacq????
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i think massa can handle...but he's now with ferrari......but i think only for 1 season la......
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or maybe fisichella........
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Well, ralphie is still available, but if they want to aim for the championship, younger drivers is the way to go now. If they can poach Heiki from Renault, it should be good
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QUOTE(linkinstreet @ Feb 5 2006, 12:26 PM)
Well, ralphie is still available, but if they want to aim for the championship, younger drivers is the way to go now. If they can poach Heiki from Renault, it should be good
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how about fairuz fawzy or alex yoong
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QUOTE(no name @ Feb 5 2006, 01:02 PM)
how about fairuz fawzy or alex yoong
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hehehehe.. sweat.gif sweat.gif
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alex yoong:oredi failed.
fairuz:on da way.give him more time.
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yoong failed bcos...of the car...minardi

how if we give schum or raikkonen drive minardi
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QUOTE(no name @ Feb 5 2006, 01:31 PM)
yoong failed bcos...of the car...minardi

how if we give schum or raikkonen drive minardi
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Mark Webber was in Minardi with Yoong, Webber made it.
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QUOTE(sani_othman @ Feb 5 2006, 01:06 PM)
alex yoong:oredi failed.
fairuz:on da way.give him more time.
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Fairuz eally need more time, still too yung, he didn't do very well in GP2 last year, 24th place, out of 26. His teammate in 10th.

Now he got married, sure distracted. tongue.gif laugh.gif

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Alex Yoong didnt manage to qualify to race for a few races when he was with Minardi but we don't see that happen to any other drivers in Minardi. Alex's time is usually about 1-2 slower than Webber when they were teammates.

Well maybe too much respect for his rivals..... tongue.gif
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QUOTE(tunertoobe @ Feb 5 2006, 02:27 PM)
Mark Webber was in Minardi with Yoong, Webber made it.
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agreed..........alonso also from minardi
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BMW decides to keep Sauber name  

BMW Sauber will launch their car in January in Valencia
BMW will call its new team BMW Sauber in next season's Formula One campaign.
The German car giant announced in June it would end a six-year partnership with Williams and buy a majority stake in Peter Sauber's Swiss-based team.

"The name chose itself. It reflects the team's make-up - run by BMW but with a core of 300 Sauber employees," said BMW motorsport director Mario Theissen.

Peter Sauber, who will remain with the team as an advisor, said: "It's nice to see that the name will continue."

Willy Rampf will remain as technical director at the Swiss factory with Heinz Paschen named as technical director Munich, where the engine will be built.

Germany's Nick Heidfeld has signed from Williams on a three-year deal and joins Canadian former world champion Jacques Villeneuve as the team's drivers.



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"The name chose itself. It reflects the team's make-up - run by BMW but with a core of 300 Sauber employees," said BMW motorsport director Mario Theissen.


include all our malaysian staff??

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Yoong is not for F1. He's fast in CART tho, which is quite amazing. Anyway, if sauber Petronas engineering is still there, than some Petronas personnel sure will keep their jobs
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QUOTE(linkinstreet @ Feb 4 2006, 11:55 PM)
Jaques is too old for all this.
Petronas is not the main sponsor, so no green color
BMW Racing color (all racing, not just F1) is Blue, White and a little Red.
If they want to win, get rid of Jaques quickly
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BMW Sauber do not have title sponsor. Petronas is the biggest sponsor (the only premium partner) in BMW Sauber. Hope the v8 dun explode after they put some syntium laugh.gif


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yoong failed bcos...of the car...minardi

how if we give schum or raikkonen drive minardi
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If they let Big Shumi drive Minardi, the car will definitly be faster. Why? Big Shumi will help Minardi get sponsor and build a strong car.

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i suppose that those malaysian involved in the engineering still there...
as for big shumi driving a minardi..even if he cant get sponsors for the team he can b the sponsors...haha
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QUOTE(Chartry @ Feb 5 2006, 07:37 PM)
BMW Sauber do not have title sponsor. Petronas is the biggest sponsor (the only premium partner) in BMW Sauber. Hope the v8 dun explode after they put some syntium laugh.gif
If they let Big Shumi drive Minardi, the car will definitly be faster. Why? Big Shumi will help Minardi get sponsor and build a strong car.
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wow.................right ..now i remember..the vital things in f1 is money...more sponsor the faster the car will go on.........
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yooo....look at the nose.......

this william has been used i think for 1 or 2 races before it been change into ordinary nose........

but i think its very nice right??
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QUOTE(tunertoobe @ Feb 5 2006, 02:27 PM)
Mark Webber was in Minardi with Yoong, Webber made it.
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yeah... alex yoong made webber look really really good lol...

QUOTE(linkinstreet @ Feb 5 2006, 05:00 PM)
Yoong is not for F1. He's fast in CART tho, which is quite amazing. Anyway, if sauber Petronas engineering is still there, than some Petronas personnel sure will keep their jobs
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fast in CART, don't remember him doing any races, thougt the whole thing fell through. and he never won anything while racing in europe, only in asian formulae.
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QUOTE(sani_othman @ Feb 5 2006, 01:06 PM)
alex yoong:oredi failed.
fairuz:on da way.give him more time.
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this is what i heard. fauruz's family owns the mofaz group which sponsored the events when he was go karting in malaysia. the rumour was that things we done to ensure that he won many races... anyway things do not look good, he ain't faster than alex yoong in A1 and as we establich, alex ain't no speed daemon.

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well, duing his international carting career, faiuz was fast enough to win. but looking at the malaysian carting scene now, it's not a dream to have our own "Capeta"
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yooo....look at the nose.......

this william has been used i think for 1 or 2 races before it been change into ordinary nose........

but i think its very nice right??
huh.gif bro... that front wing is a result of williams engineering.... not BMW sweat.gif sweat.gif sweat.gif . Its way out of topic.... and as for ur question, nope... its suks.... williams did awful job... tarnishing bmw's image too... vmad.gif

the current bmw front wing.... thats what i call nice... thumbup.gif way nicer than other teams.
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QUOTE(linkinstreet @ Feb 5 2006, 10:02 PM)
well, duing his international carting career, faiuz was fast enough to win. but looking at the malaysian carting scene now, it's not a dream to have our own "Capeta"
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well here's what he has achieved so far... aint that impressive for anyone who aspires to F1.

2004 British Formula 3 Championship
2nd podium position Oulton Park (Round 15)

2003 British Formula 3 Championship Class
Sardinia Master Italy - 6th
Macau Grand Prix - 9th

2002 British Formula 3 Scholarship
Podium Finishes
3rd Podium Position Silverstone (Round 3)
2nd Podium Position Knockhill (Round 4)
3rd Podium Position Croft (Round 5)
3rd Podium Position Brands Hatch (Round 8)
3rd Podium Position Oulton Park (Round 10)
OVERALL 9th POSITION

2001 Champion - Open Category Asean Kart Prix Enorm, (Fast Track Speedzone ELITE Circuit)

2000 Champion - Open Category Asean Kart Prix EON Challenge Trophy, Langkawi

1998 Champion - Open Category Asean Kart Prix Yap Challenge Trophy, Langkawi

1997 Champion - National Category Langkawi Motorsport Club Race, Langkawi
Champion - Open Category Asean Kart Prix, Langkawi

1996 Champion - National Category Asean Kart Prix Mobil, Langkawi

1995 Champion - Formula TKM, Buckmore Park Circuit, UK

1994 Pole Position - National Category Pandamaran Circuit, Klang

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QUOTE(cruel_boy @ Feb 6 2006, 01:56 AM)
huh.gif  bro... that front wing is a result of williams engineering.... not BMW sweat.gif  sweat.gif  sweat.gif . Its way out of topic.... and as for ur question, nope... its suks.... williams did awful job... tarnishing bmw's image too... vmad.gif

the current bmw front wing.... thats what i call nice...  thumbup.gif way nicer than other teams.
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i knew that is not bmw sauber car lar....juz to show u about BMW echnology..thats all.........
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even the word syntium is there...at the barge boards...
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QUOTE(no name @ Feb 6 2006, 07:29 AM)
i knew that is not bmw sauber car lar....juz to show u about BMW echnology..thats all.........
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It's not BMW technology and it never was. BMW never interfered with Williams's design of the car. They just made the engine.
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for this season.. i dun really know hom to support i'm a minardi fans myslef. and sauber petronas fans. But now both team no longer here d. lost...
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but the sauber name still there so u can also stay on with sauber..just that its not petronas anymore..but BMW...
hopefully the powerful BMW engine can bring the team towards a better future like wut they had on the season where they finished 4th overall...
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The problem of BMW Sauber is they are lack of man power. Others team such as Ferrari is running their wind tunnel on 3 shift but BMW Sauber only have 2 shift. Great facilities but lack of staff. Wasted.


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well here's what he has achieved so far... aint that impressive for anyone who aspires to F1.

2004    British Formula 3 Championship
  2nd podium position Oulton Park (Round 15)
   
2003  British Formula 3 Championship Class
  Sardinia Master Italy - 6th
  Macau Grand Prix - 9th
   
2002  British Formula 3 Scholarship
  Podium Finishes
  3rd Podium Position Silverstone (Round 3)
  2nd Podium Position Knockhill (Round 4)
  3rd Podium Position Croft (Round 5)
  3rd Podium Position Brands Hatch (Round 8)
  3rd Podium Position Oulton Park (Round 10)
  OVERALL 9th POSITION
   
2001  Champion - Open Category Asean Kart Prix Enorm, (Fast Track Speedzone ELITE Circuit)
   
2000  Champion - Open Category Asean Kart Prix EON Challenge Trophy, Langkawi
   
1998  Champion - Open Category Asean Kart Prix Yap Challenge Trophy, Langkawi
   
1997  Champion - National Category Langkawi Motorsport Club Race, Langkawi
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Not impressive at all. There's alot better younger driver like Nelson Piquet Jr. However Fairuz got Petronas backing him.

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for this season.. i dun really know hom to support i'm a minardi fans myslef. and sauber petronas fans. But now both team no longer here d. lost...
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The problem of BMW Sauber is they are lack of man power. Others team such as Ferrari is running their wind tunnel on 3 shift but BMW Sauber only have 2 shift. Great facilities but lack of staff. Wasted.
Not impressive at all. There's alot better younger driver like Nelson Piquet Jr. However Fairuz got Petronas backing him.
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DONT understang la about all the 3 shift.....2 shift...explain plez....
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shifts as in work shifts

3 shifts means that it can work longer than 2 shifts. M
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QUOTE(linkinstreet @ Feb 7 2006, 09:14 PM)
shifts as in work shifts

3 shifts means that it can work longer than 2 shifts. M
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but sometime working more doesn't means the car can run faster....
for me, time is not the factor...but intelligent is.....
i think Sauber is lack of intelliegent guy compare to the big team
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QUOTE(chtanray @ Feb 7 2006, 11:32 PM)
but sometime working more doesn't means the car can run faster....
for me, time is not the factor...but intelligent is.....
i think Sauber is lack of intelliegent guy compare to the big team
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They spend 8hours less compared to big team such as Ferrari in the wind tunnel each day. Time is a factor in f1.

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yeah... alex yoong made webber look really really good lol...
fast in CART, don't remember him doing any races, thougt the whole thing fell through. and he never won anything while racing in europe, only in asian formulae.
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yeah, remember last year that Ferrari refuse to agree on testing ban. Time and testing are the most thing an F1 team cannot get enough of
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yeah, remember last year that Ferrari refuse to agree on testing ban. Time and testing are the most thing an F1 team cannot get enough of
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yaya...testing play a very important role in F1.....all the car have to be fully tested before go to race......
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yeah, remember last year that Ferrari refuse to agree on testing ban. Time and testing are the most thing an F1 team cannot get enough of
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how about bmw???
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BMW Sauber F1 Team - Valencia Test - Day 3


Weather conditions: Sunny, Air: 11-18°C, track: 9-20°C

Number of cars participating: 10

Fastest lap overall: 1:10.570 min (lap 129), Fernando Alonso, Renault, Michelin

On Friday, Nick Heidfeld and Robert Kubica completed the BMW Sauber F1 Team's penultimate day of testing at the "Circuit de la Comunitat Ricardo Tormo". Together the drivers covered a total distance of 704 kilometres.

Nick and Robert used the perfect conditions - with temperatures reaching 18 degrees Celsius and sunshine throughout the day - to complete another valuable day of season preparation for the BMW Sauber F1 Team. Nick sat behind the wheel of the new BMW Sauber F1.06 for 87 laps on the 4.005 kilometre circuit, setting a personal best time of 1:11.799 minutes. He worked with Michelin on a tyre construction assessment and later ran fuel system and aerodynamic tests.

Robert's fastest of 89 laps was clocked at 1:12.112 minutes. In the Sauber C24B he tested different tyre compounds for Michelin. Tomorrow Nick and Jacques will carry out a wet test programme. Next week the BMW Sauber F1 Team will be testing in Jerez from 8th to 10th February.

Nick Heidfeld:
Chassis / engine: BMW Sauber F1.06 / BMW P86 V8
Test kilometres today: 348 km (87 laps)
Fastest lap: 1:11.799 min (lap 29)
Programme: Nick worked with Michelin on a tyre construction assessment and later ran fuel system and aerodynamic tests.

Robert Kubica:
Chassis / engine: Sauber C24B / BMW P86 V8
Test kilometres today: 356 km (89 laps)
Fastest lap: 1:12.112 min (lap 35)
Programme: Today Robert tested different tyre compounds for Michelin.

What comes next:
Tomorrow Nick and Jacques will carry out a wet test programme. Next week the BMW Sauber F1 Team will be testing from February 8 to 10 in Jerez.




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how about bmw???
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Rebel with a cause: Jacques Villeneuve

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Jacques Villeneuve has a reputation of being an unconventional driver, and at times the BMW Sauber F1 Team driver has even been considered a rebel. Jacques himself, however, has a different opinion.

"Being a rebel means going against the establishment purely because you're against the establishment and not because you have your own ideas," Jacques remarks. "Sometimes I disagreed with the establishment, but this is because I have my own ideas, which is different to being a rebel. Normally a rebel is without a cause."

Jacques has always done his own thing on and off the track. Recently the passionate hobby musician performed his first stage concert in front of an audience during the GP24hour ski race. Jacques also plays ice hockey for the "Monks of Bretaye" and enjoys to go skiing in his leisure time.

The Canadian believes it is very important to have a rich and fulfilled personal life. "It means that you can get up in the morning and do what you like doing," explains Jacques. "It's about your personal satisfaction, and this needs to be part of your life."



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hey guys, another sauber fan reporting in.

when i tell my friends i'm into sauber team, they all laughed. doesn't matter, coz i believe this team will make it big someday.

bout jacque, i don't really like him last season, as a season driver he should be excelling, but instead felipe did better than him. hope he can make it back this season.

bout nick, i got confidence in him coz thefella really can push...
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since this thread is about sauber team, wouldn't it be better if this is pinned up juz like the others?
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QUOTE(linkinstreet @ Feb 9 2006, 08:58 PM)
I assume you just started watching F1. Only Ferrari was against this ban on testing, All the other 9 teams was in it.
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doh.gif i think what he ment was, did BMW aggreed for this? Last year, BMW was only an engine supplier.... while Williams is the one who decided for the limit on testing. BMW wasnt in a position to make a judgment. Now that BMW is a whole independant team, do they agreed for it? sweat.gif
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doh.gif  i think what he ment was, did BMW aggreed for this? Last year, BMW was only an engine supplier.... while Williams is the one who decided for the limit on testing. BMW wasnt in a position to make a judgment. Now that BMW is a whole independant team, do they agreed for it?  sweat.gif
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Continue with the test topic. The test ban is only comply test on race track. That means those team still can test their car in the wind tunnel. BTW last year, Mclaren and Renault was accused of testing their car secretly in a racetrack.
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hey guys, another sauber fan reporting in.

when i tell my friends i'm into sauber team, they all laughed. doesn't matter, coz i believe this team will make it big someday.

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sauber team now with BMW....new engine and new technology..so i think bmw will compete with ferrari....
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since this thread is about sauber team, wouldn't it be better if this is pinned up juz like the others?
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i think moderator should answer the question....
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BMW Sauber F1 Team was in action again


The BMW Sauber F1 Team was in action again at the "Jerez Circuit" today. Nick Heidfeld and Jacques Villeneuve continued the team's preparations for the first Grand Prix of the season, which will be held on 12th March in Bahrain.

Under overcast skies for most of the day, Nick and Jacques were both hampered by minor problems on the second day with both new BMW Sauber F1.06 cars on the track. Jacques was behind the wheel of the new chassis during its second outing after Wednesday's rollout. The Canadian completed the scheduled Bahrain tyre option evaluation. However, just at the end of the test day a cooling system was damaged by a foreign object, which forced him to stop testing. Jacques covered an impressive distance of 487 kilometres or 110 laps. His personal best time was 1:18.207 minutes.

Nick worked on the set-up of the car and tested Michelin tyres for the Bahrain Grand Prix. Unfortunately, he was forced to stop early due to a fuel system problem and was therefore not able to complete the scheduled programme today. On lap 50 of 62, the German clocked his best time of the session, a 1:18.271.

Tomorrow Nick will continue with the Michelin tyre test for Bahrain, while Robert Kubica will drive the new car for the very first time. He will spend the morning getting used to the F1.06 and to do long runs for further Michelin tests.



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so this is robert kubica...he looks old....
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out of topic a bit, jz wanna ask u guys, which season u guys like to watch the most?

for me is the 2001 season where sauber was really very strong among the lower batch teams compared to the then dominating williams,ferrari and mclaren.

then it was the last two seasons where i prefer to watch the battle of the underdogs and the battle between kimi raikonnen and shumi. last season was nice seeing the end of ferarri's dominance.
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seriously the 1st race havent started yet and it is hard to predict.

like what happen in last year.
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wuteva it is.i'm glad petronas wit them..with bmw still using same old staff plus new staff...it means...there will be some technology transfer to petronas(since this is one of the thing petronas ask from them)

n still..its hard to predict until the race has begun....since reability of the car also the important factor(da reason renault win even mclaren is da fastest)

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out of topic a bit, jz wanna ask u guys, which season u guys like to watch the most?

for me is the 2001 season where sauber was really very strong among the lower batch teams compared to the then dominating williams,ferrari and mclaren.

then it was the last two seasons where i prefer to watch the battle of the underdogs and the battle between kimi raikonnen and shumi. last season was nice seeing the end of ferarri's dominance.
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for me ithink 2006 season will be the most extream season to be watched...

bcos we have more team..from 20 driver to 21 driver now....

no minardi...so very hard to predict which team is the best....

and mostly bcos there will be BMW sauber la...
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to all BMW Sauber F1 Team...

U can put this on your signature...hope u can use it....


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Sauber V8 only 0.5 seconds slower than the previous Ferrari V10 powered car. thumbup.gif
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but ferrari v8 compare with bmw v8???
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but ferrari v8 compare with bmw v8???
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Ferrari V8 fastest of all in testing. So far.
The time recorded for the Sauber V8 was at their own test track.

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BMW Sauber F1.06 - double-decker front wing

At the F1.06's post-launch test session in Valencia, BMW Sauber immediately started development of the new car's aero package, trialling different versions of the front wing. The latest used was one sporting a double profile, following the concept introduced last season by Renault and subsequently followed by many other teams. This solution seems able to provide additional downforce, but with a proportionally low increase in drag, and is very likely to be used when the season starts.

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QUOTE(tunertoobe @ Feb 11 2006, 01:54 PM)
Sauber V8 only 0.5 seconds slower than the previous Ferrari V10 powered  car.  thumbup.gif
current v8 is less stronger than v10. If BMWs v8(which should be slower,less strong) is only .5 secong off the pace than Ferraris v10(stronger, faster).... it is really impressive thumbup.gif . BMW was infact able to compete with Ferrari few years back, their engine is indeed stong and competetive.... but Williams car...sweat.gif u know lae...
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BMW Sauber F1.06 - double-decker front wing

At the F1.06's post-launch test session in Valencia, BMW Sauber immediately started development of the new car's aero package, trialling different versions of the front wing. The latest used was one sporting a double profile, following the concept introduced last season by Renault and subsequently followed by many other teams. This solution seems able to provide additional downforce, but with a proportionally low increase in drag, and is very likely to be used when the season starts.
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Damn, tiru last year Renault sial. argh, BMW got no original idea nowadays. Wonder how long it will take them to copy the McLaren's horn
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Damn, tiru last year Renault sial. argh, BMW got no original idea nowadays. Wonder how long it will take them to copy the McLaren's horn
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argh...every copies in F1, nothing new. the vertical exhausts used by everyone now was pioneered by ferrari.
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actually BMW has quite a good engine all these while even during the times with williams just that their chasis is not good enough so hope that this time with sauber they can really show others wut they have...
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argh...every copies in F1, nothing new. the vertical exhausts used by everyone now was pioneered by ferrari.
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I know, but with that statement that comes with the graphics, it seems that BMW pioneered that. I also just read the F1 Mag Feb issue. Seems that they have a bigger wind tunnel than both Renault and McLaren but they cannot fully use it to it's full potential
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QUOTE(linkinstreet @ Feb 12 2006, 12:16 AM)
I know, but with that statement that comes with the graphics, it seems that BMW pioneered that. I also just read the F1 Mag Feb issue. Seems that they have a bigger wind tunnel than both Renault and McLaren but they cannot fully use it to it's full potential
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doh.gif doh.gif doh.gif some ppl know nothing but throwing flames.... BMW Sauber still a new team laa.... the management are still rookie.... afterall... everything we say and do is by immitating others... its nature of human kind..... whistling.gif

and just because they have a bigger wind tunnel doesnt promise a better result either.... it takes lots of testing and ect to come up wth a good aero package. Owning a Ferrari doent mean they can be fast unless they know how to drive fast.... same thing applies here wink.gif
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still not pinned up this thread?
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still not pinned up this thread?
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BMW Sauber F1.06 - rear-end detail

As on all the 2006 machines, the sidepods are smaller and narrower, particularly as they reach the 'coke-bottle' section at the rear of the car (red arrow), where the bodywork looks like a second skin applied to its internal elements. This minimal design is intended to smooth the airflow to the rear diffuser. Hidden by shields at the car's launch, the F1.06's diffuser looks very similar to that of the previous Sauber C24 in its side sections, sporting a small flip-up right in front of the rear wheels, hiding within it two heat sensors, and sporting a small, vertical fin just inside the wheel.

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Well, if the car goes well, BMW should be able to do a few challenges.... However, in terms of drivers.... well, i dont particularly like Jacque, he's abit like the rusty guy in F1 and one of the many ppl who is being labelled as the "no-braking" guy out there in F1. No offence to the Jacque fans out there, ok? Just my POV. Of course, I'll support our country's sponsored team anytime regardless of the drivers biggrin.gif

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Well, I trulli share ur view. Jaques is a "have been". He was a great WC but he don't have the same hunger as the young guns of Kimi and Alonso. Nevetheless we have the great Deutsch Heidfield!!!
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go bmw sauber...............
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i think this year sauber will shine......
may be not for the champions yet..but for sure will have many podiums....
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i think this year sauber will shine......
may be not for the champions yet..but for sure will have many podiums....
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do u think jaq can be world champion again juz like did during 1997 season?????
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do u think jaq can be world champion again juz like did during 1997 season?????
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do u think jaq can be world champion again juz like did during 1997 season?????
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anything can happen in this world....
but i think his chance is not tat good lah......
better think he did for podiums lah..
if more than 8 podiums for the whole year is consider as success oledi lah...
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Yes if they build a team around him just like the 1997 season
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nope. that year the williams was so powerfull that it was said you can take some obsecure person, put him in the williams car and he can become world champion. Jaques has an issue with both Patrick head and Frankie Williams in 1997 and ppl believe that he can become world champion because the car was soo fast.
another pont to ponder, in 1997, the team was not behind him, but only renault.
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do u think jaq can be world champion again juz like did during 1997 season?????
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nope, juz simply nope. from his driving skills now compared to 1997, big difference. i'll put it this way, he's not competitive enough with the young guns.

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In 1997, he again took the title fight down to the last race, narrowly leading the points for the Drivers' Championship title. Schumacher uncompromisingly crashed into Jacques Villeneuve's Williams Renault after Villeneuve attempted to overtake Schumacher, when the German left the door open under braking into one of the curves of the Jerez circuit. Despite the fact that the Ferrari was literally thrown into the side of the Williams, it was the red car that ended up on the gravel and out of the race. Villeneuve's badly damaged Williams eventually finished third in the race, thereby winning the Drivers Championship title that year. In a bizarre and controversial decision by the FIA, Schumacher was disqualified from the World Championship final classification that year, but his results and points were nevertheless kept in the official records.



jacques villeneuve win just bcos of luck....after schu was disqualified....

just luck....


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QUOTE(no name @ Feb 15 2006, 09:59 AM)
jacques villeneuve win just bcos of luck....after schu was disqualified....

just luck....

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Actually it's no luck. Michael knew that he can't win that day. so he did like what he did to damon hill in 1995. He ram into Jaques
unlike 1995, jaques can continue the race and Michael was deemed to make an unlawful and unsportmanship move for the SECOND time (after 1995) so the FIA had no option but to DQ Schummi.

Schummi is not as good hearted as everyone think.
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QUOTE(linkinstreet @ Feb 15 2006, 08:02 PM)
Actually it's no luck. Michael knew that he can't win that day. so he did like what he did to damon hill in 1995. He ram into Jaques
unlike 1995, jaques can continue the race and Michael was deemed to make an unlawful and unsportmanship move for the SECOND time (after 1995) so the FIA had no option but to DQ Schummi.

Schummi is not as good hearted as everyone think.
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if Schummi still not a good driver..then who is? he currently hold some many records ler.....n it will take long time to break the record....
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if aryton senna didnt passed away, he shld b the greatest of all as i think he is much better than schumi. That, schumi wont have able to win the 94,95 title
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QUOTE(jiunkei_46 @ Feb 16 2006, 04:02 PM)
if aryton senna didnt passed away, he shld b the greatest of all as i think he is much better than schumi. That, schumi wont have able to win the 94,95 title
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may be u r correct....n i agree senna is really a good driver.....between him n MS who is better is hard to compare...they r from different generation....so how to compare ler.....
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he passed away on 1994 at age of 34..so that time schumi was on the grid too...so if he didnt passed away..i believe, schumi was unable to win the 2 titles that 2 years.
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Jean Alesi is a very good driver too, though he did not manage to become F1 champion but he manage to get alot of races under his belt.
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No doubt Shummi is a very good driver. However IF another very good driver comes along to fight for the title especially till the very end, hehehehe..... we'll be able to see the dark side of Shummi.
2 collisions during the 2 title deciding races caused by the same person? Bizzarre I would say.
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QUOTE(ckseong80 @ Feb 17 2006, 10:37 PM)
No doubt Shummi is a very good driver. However IF another very good driver comes along to fight for the title especially till the very end, hehehehe..... we'll be able to see the dark side of Shummi.
2 collisions during the 2 title deciding races caused by the same person? Bizzarre I would say.
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taking someone out to win the title...nothing new in F1 really. prosts did it to senna and senna returned the favour.
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QUOTE(ckseong80 @ Feb 17 2006, 10:37 PM)
No doubt Shummi is a very good driver. However IF another very good driver comes along to fight for the title especially till the very end, hehehehe..... we'll be able to see the dark side of Shummi.
2 collisions during the 2 title deciding races caused by the same person? Bizzarre I would say.
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they is the dark side all over in the F1, just we cant c it nia....no only MS nia....
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hehe, Shummi here and there....bloody off topic, my name is Shum.....
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Ayrton Senna drives like he is in a video game. tongue.gif
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QUOTE(tunertoobe @ Feb 20 2006, 05:58 PM)
Ayrton Senna drives like he is in a video game.  tongue.gif
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actually, i prefer to believe of the other way around
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rite, counting down for Bahrain Grand Prix.....go go BMW Sauber
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i think both did well in qualifying...
tmr will able to c the car performance..
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Bahrain GP: BMW Sauber race notes

This was not a great start for our team in Bahrain. After starting from 10th and 11th places respectively, neither Nick Heidfeld nor Jacques Villeneuve was able to score points in this opening round of the 2006 FIA Formula One World Championship.

After an incident after the start, Nick dropped to 19th and had to fight back to 12th. Jacques retired on lap 30 with engine failure.

Nick Heidfeld:

"Obviously things started badly as Nico Rosberg spun me in the first corner. I lost a lot of places and that ruined my race. I was able to fight back and had a particularly exciting battle with Coulthard. It's difficult to assess our performance after only one race but naturally it's disappointing when you start 10th and can't score any points."

Jacques Villeneuve:

"My start was not particularly great, but I managed to find my way through the first few corners and to stay out of trouble there. The race set-up was fine and I settled into a good rhythm. I overtook Coulthard and stayed in front of Raikkonen for quite a while. Then all of a sudden I started to lose power, and that was it."

Mario Theissen (BMW Motorsport Director):

The start of the weekend was promising, but unfortunately we could not maintain our performance for the race. Jacques' car suffered a serious engine failure, without any warning. The unit was removed immediately after we got the car back, and sent to Munich for analysis."

"Nick was the victim of a collision in the first corner with Nico Rosberg, and was relegated to the tail of the field. From there he recovered to 12th but the lap times were not as good as expected. That shows that we have started well but still have much to do."

Willy Rampf (Technical Director Chassis):

"After qualifying we were optimistic for the race, but I have to admit that our pace this afternoon was not at the level we had expected after practice on Friday and Saturday. We have to analyse the reasons for this carefully, but for sure there is a lot of work to do."

Nick Heidfeld: 12th
Chassis: BMW Sauber F1.06-04
Engine: BMW P86
Fastest lap: 1:33.772s, lap 26

Jacques Villeneuve: DNF (engine failure)
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Fastest lap: 1:33.694s, lap 20


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QUOTE(Chartry @ Feb 17 2006, 05:19 PM)
Jean Alesi is a very good driver too, though he did not manage to become F1 champion but he manage to get alot of races under his belt.
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hopefully the new BMW engine will be realible for the upcoming race, is it more powerful than the previous ferrari's?
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QUOTE(Cahill @ Mar 13 2006, 03:52 PM)
hopefully the new BMW engine will be realible for the upcoming race, is it more powerful than the previous ferrari's?
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i tot it's cosworth?
previous ferrari?u mean those really2 durable v10?
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i think he was saying that previously sauber's engine was from ferrari..
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I wonder if the BMW engine is still the most powerful on the grid. Last time during the v10 days, it's really one hell of a great engine limited only by the lousy williams chasis.
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QUOTE(jiunkei_46 @ Mar 14 2006, 01:34 AM)
i think he was saying that previously sauber's engine was from ferrari..
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previous seasons they are using ferrari's engine right? but how come the result not like ferrari's?? biggrin.gif even tyre also bridgestone tongue.gif
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QUOTE(Cahill @ Mar 14 2006, 01:30 PM)
previous seasons they are using ferrari's engine right? but how come the result not like ferrari's??  biggrin.gif  even tyre also bridgestone  tongue.gif
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when they said engine is not everything...they mean it biggrin.gif

well...not just engine n tire, they oso used ferrari's 2k4 chassis
in fact, the speed is almost similar according 2 speed trap
the result is diff bcos the setup is diff...car setup plays a very important role in car's behaviour...not 2 mention driving style/skills

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maybe shummi decide to drive for sauber after he retired biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(Cahill @ Mar 14 2006, 04:24 PM)
maybe shummi decide to drive for sauber after he retired  biggrin.gif
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after he retired...no more drive maa sweat.gif

btw...when williams decided 2 buy sauber, did they bought the whole sauber properties?i mean...did they bought sauber's new wing tunnel as well?heard that it's 1 of the best drool.gif

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Sauber can win this time around?? With Williams backing?? blink.gif

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QUOTE(Hiwatari @ Mar 14 2006, 04:53 PM)
after he retired...no more drive maa sweat.gif

btw...when williams decided 2 buy sauber, did they bought the whole sauber properties?i mean...did they bought sauber's new wing tunnel as well?heard that it's 1 of the best drool.gif
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QUOTE(Hiwatari @ Mar 14 2006, 04:53 PM)
after he retired...no more drive maa sweat.gif

btw...when williams decided 2 buy sauber, did they bought the whole sauber properties?i mean...did they bought sauber's new wing tunnel as well?heard that it's 1 of the best drool.gif
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Ehem!
BMW le, not williams. and yes, they bouight all of Sauber's including the wind tunnel.
Also, the BMW engine has been on the down for the last 3 seasons now. las tyear, it was the toyota who had the best engine on the grid. this year, it;s cosworth
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QUOTE(Notoriez @ Mar 14 2006, 04:56 PM)
Sauber can win this time around?? With Williams backing??  blink.gif
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if they can have one podium finish then i consider they "WIN" this season biggrin.gif
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how come is williams backing the team???since when williams bought over sauber???
isnt it BMW??
sauber has the best wind tunnel in F1 as written in F1 racing..
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QUOTE(linkinstreet @ Mar 14 2006, 10:40 PM)
Ehem!
BMW le, not williams. and yes, they bouight all of Sauber's including the wind tunnel.
aiyah...my bad...including wing tunnel? drool.gif let c wether they can make full use of it smile.gif

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veyron?but bugatti is italian company...the wing tunnel is in swiss izzit?
phew, sure lots of effort goin into the veyron thumbup.gif
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well, untill then, Sauber's wind tunnel is underutilised, so they let Bugatti use it
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sauber still have very good mechanic and engineer
so i think BMW will be top5 at the end of the season

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QUOTE(rambolee @ Mar 17 2006, 10:18 AM)
sauber still have very good mechanic and engineer
so i think BMW will be top5 at the end of the season
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u mean Sauber will be top 5 this season?
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QUOTE(rambolee @ Mar 17 2006, 10:18 AM)
sauber still have very good mechanic and engineer
so i think BMW will be top5 at the end of the season
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some of them is Malaysians thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(Hiwatari @ Mar 17 2006, 11:44 AM)
some of them is Malaysians thumbup.gif
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too bad the drivers are not blink.gif
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Cahill, do u expect a driver from M'sia to drive F1 car kah ?
u dont mimpi lah, M'sia drive only know how to say M'sia Boleh.
Tapi bila in the race mana boleh
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Hi all... Though I'm a ferrari fan, i suport sauber as well, only because of petronas tongue.gif but i got attracted to them during, erm...when peter sauber gave kimi the drive in F1 with 21 race in his belts...he and nick score a bunchful of points tht year...

hmm...speaking of malaysian driver, we already once had, and it shows why we malaysian shouldn't buy a seat in F1. If there's a talent from malaysian, i'm sure someone would notice it...
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QUOTE(kopiopot @ Mar 17 2006, 02:40 PM)
Cahill, do u expect a driver from M'sia to drive F1 car kah ?
u dont mimpi lah, M'sia drive only know how to say M'sia Boleh.
Tapi bila in the race mana boleh
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1 of the reason we dont have great f1 driver becoz motorsport is not so encouraging in msia
also we dont have much go kart circuit around
the government didnt promote la
somemore raise the petrol prices
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Malaysian GP: Preview - BMW Sauber F1

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After the initial stocktaking at the season opener in Bahrain, there's no opportunity for the Formula One teams to catch their breath. The second of 18 races in the FIA Formula One World Championship - the "PETRONAS Malaysian Grand Prix" - is lined up for this coming Sunday, 19 March. The BMW Sauber F1 Team is looking forward to the home race of its main sponsor Petronas and bracing itself for the rigours of a race in tropical conditions.

On Tuesday and Wednesday prior to the PETRONAS Malaysian Grand Prix, drivers Nick Heidfeld and Jacques Villeneuve as well as BMW Motorsport Director Mario Theissen and Peter Sauber will have several PR appearances. For Wednesday, the 15th of March, interview sessions with the media is scheduled for 10:00 am at level 41 of Tower 1 of the Petronas Twin Towers in Kuala Lumpur.

Nick Heidfeld: "The Malaysian Grand Prix is unusual mainly for its high temperatures and extreme humidity. Basically I don't have a problem with that. Last year I started from tenth place and made it onto the podium - for me it was one of the most exciting races ever. I had some tough duels and a lot of fun. We have experienced some incredible cloudbursts in Sepang, but I can live with that as I basically enjoy driving on a wet track. So far, I've managed quite well in Malaysia whatever the conditions. I also know the country quite well by now. To get acclimatised I have often taken a brief holiday there before the race, and there has also been plenty on the Petronas agenda - that's Malaysia's oil and gas company, who were also our sponsors back in the years when I was driving for Sauber. When you see the Petronas Twin Towers in Kuala Lumpur, you get some idea of how important this company is for the country."

Jacques Villeneuve: "Malaysia will be a very busy grand prix for the BMW Sauber F1 Team because it's the home race of our main sponsor Petronas. The track is quite interesting and physically very demanding because of its long high-speed corners that generate high lateral g- forces. All this takes place in high ambient temperatures with an extreme humidity, which means that you really need to be physically well prepared. I am confident for the race."
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Malaysian GP: Friday Practice - BMW Sauber F1 Team

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Sepang (Mal). A good start for the BMW Sauber F1 Team to the PETRONAS Malaysian Grand Prix in the sauna of Sepang. All three drivers ran well as we concentrated on tyre evaluation.

Jacques Villeneuve: BMW Sauber F1.06-03 /BMW P86
1st Practice: no time / 2nd Practice: 9th, 1:37.045s
It was a pretty good start for us today. To be honest, much better than I expected. The balance of the F1.06 was really good, which is very important so early in the weekend. I had a completely troublefree day and it was fun to drive with the high level of grip available.

Nick Heidfeld: BMW Sauber F1.06-04 / BMW P86
1st Practice: no time / 2nd Practice: 12th, 1:37.418s
Our first day of practice was fine, so I'm quite happy. This afternoon it wasn't necessary for me to do a lot of running, because the balance of the car felt good straight away. Sepang is a circuit I really enjoy, driving is so much fun here.

Robert Kubica: BMW Sauber F1.06-02 / BMW P86
1st Practice: 2nd , 1:35.733s / 2nd Practice: 13th, 1:37.457s
We gathered plenty of data today, especially this afternoon when we did some race simulation, and obviously that is the most important thing on a Friday. Sepang is quite a difficult circuit, with a lot of long corners with different lines, but I think after five laps I felt quite familiar with it.

Mario Theissen (BMW Motorsport Director): This first practice day went as expected. Robert did 59 laps and most of the set-up work, and as in Bahrain he did a good job. The only problem we had all day was a slight glitch with the clutch as he was leaving the pits on his last stint this afternoon. We now need to make our tyre decision and to work on set-up for Saturday, and thanks to our reliability today we have plenty of data to enable us to optimise the cars.

Willy Rampf (Technical Director Chassis): Today we concentrated completely on tyre evaluation. Robert was doing the long-runs, so we were able to collect a lot of data which we now have to analyse in order to make the best decision for qualifying and the race.


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QUOTE(rambolee @ Mar 17 2006, 04:33 PM)
1 of the reason we dont have great f1 driver becoz motorsport is not so encouraging in msia
also we dont have much go kart circuit around
the government didnt promote la
somemore raise the petrol prices
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I actually wanted to be a racer at a younger age, but the cost devastated me. sad.gif
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QUOTE(tunertoobe @ Mar 18 2006, 01:41 PM)
I actually wanted to be a racer at a younger age, but the cost devastated me.  sad.gif
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even got steering wheel w/ force feedback 2 add-up the realistic effects thumbup.gif

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2 bad 4 heidfeld...8 laps only
but JV has done a good job in defending his 7th against ralf
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I think the BMW-Sauber cars are pretty good looking... the colour and the sponsors stickers are very matching... from far you can see the Intel logo... lol... but its very proud to see the PETRONAS-Malaysia symbol at the side...
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thanx to villeneuve for giving the team first point this season....
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too bad for heidfield
else BMW got 4 more points
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Hmm... i think its a good start though...
BMW gonna find it hard to manage the whole team by themselves... much to learn... Hope the White-Blue can continue to deliver some good results
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BMW team cap n driver's cap damn nice...
esp jacques...looks better than nick..
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QUOTE(=--ChoonG->> @ Mar 21 2006, 10:19 PM)
Hmm... i think its a good start though...
BMW gonna find it hard to manage the whole team by themselves... much to learn... Hope the White-Blue can continue to deliver some good results
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no worry
sauber is a very experience team

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QUOTE(rambolee @ Mar 22 2006, 09:07 AM)
no worry
sauber is a very experience team
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yup...more than 10 yrs liao thumbup.gif
p/s:petronas still the premium sponsor?y bmw sauber...not bmw sauber petronas?
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dont know
mayb BMW > Petronas
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QUOTE(rambolee @ Mar 22 2006, 05:29 PM)
haha
dont know
mayb BMW > Petronas
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but then no more foreigner will notice us much then...like those in petronas ad...those ppl who take pix of petronas 4WD n say "petronas...formula 1" biggrin.gif

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Petronas are sponsor only now, unlike previous years when they were not only sponsors, but worked side by side with the Sauber team using the Sauber Petronas Engeneering (SPE). SPE has now been bought by BMW.
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hmm..wonder why they still suxx..

they got the technology.

is the driver really a big play the most important part?

bmw has been falling apart since they sold...who that fella?
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QUOTE(benQue @ Mar 22 2006, 07:55 PM)
hmm..wonder why they still suxx..

they got the technology.

is the driver really a big play the most important part?

bmw has been falling apart since they sold...who that fella?
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yes...absolutely.....i think if sauber try to get rosberg from williams..maybe we can get more point
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during Malaysian GP I had problem differenciating BMW sauber with Super Azuri doh.gif sweat.gif

p/s still have the BMW sauber stickers on my rear passenger windows biggrin.gif
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Rosberg will blow the engine every second race tongue.gif
anyway, it's too soon to see improvement from this team. For one, the team is based in Swistzerland, which is a far cry from the traditional central england base for most of the other teams. england is easier because there are nearer test tracks and most of the workers based there so no need to commute that much.
Also the BMW headquaters are still based in Germany, so it will take a long time to send and recive data between the headquaters and the BMW-sauber base.
give them 2 or 3 years
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QUOTE(linkinstreet @ Mar 22 2006, 07:52 PM)
Petronas are sponsor only now, unlike previous years when they were not only sponsors, but worked side by side with the Sauber team using the Sauber Petronas Engeneering (SPE). SPE has now been bought by BMW.
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how bout fuel?still petronas?or changed 2 petrobras?williams used it if i'm not mistaken
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QUOTE(linkinstreet @ Mar 22 2006, 08:56 PM)
Rosberg will blow the engine every second race tongue.gif
can't really blame him...yet
cos webber oso retire 4 the same reason wink.gif
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hmm..wonder why they still suxx..

they got the technology.

is the driver really a big play the most important part?

bmw has been falling apart since they sold...who that fella?
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QUOTE(no name @ Mar 22 2006, 08:24 PM)
yes...absolutely.....i think if sauber try to get rosberg from williams..maybe we can get more point
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QUOTE(pilotHans @ Mar 22 2006, 08:52 PM)
during Malaysian GP I had problem differenciating BMW  sauber with Super Azuri  doh.gif  sweat.gif

p/s still have the BMW sauber stickers on my rear passenger windows  biggrin.gif
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it's aguri, not azuri tongue.gif
but i am wondering how u mix up a white-blue team with a white-red team?
u mean BMW sauder and William ? coz william is Blue-White


QUOTE(Hiwatari @ Mar 22 2006, 10:51 PM)
how bout fuel?still petronas?or changed 2 petrobras?williams used it if i'm not mistaken
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i think they are using petronas
coz they have the big 'petronas' sticker at the rear wing


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how bout fuel?still petronas?or changed 2 petrobras?williams used it if i'm not mistaken
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i thought i read that all F1 team use the same fuel which process at the same time.
The only different brand is the motor oil? correct me if i am wrong.
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QUOTE(rambolee @ Mar 23 2006, 10:34 AM)
i think they are using petronas
coz they have the big 'petronas' sticker at the rear wing
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n @ the side 2...sidepods got petronas, then the fin in front of it got syntium
so that's y i wonder wether petronas still the premium sponsor cos bmw logo...on the nose only izzit?small2 1 sweat.gif doh.gif
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i thought i read that all F1 team use the same fuel which process at the same time.
The only different brand is the motor oil? correct me if i am wrong.
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as long as the fuel is close to the composition of ordinary, commercially available petrol, then it should be ok

QUOTE(Hiwatari @ Mar 23 2006, 02:14 PM)
n @ the side 2...sidepods got petronas, then the fin in front of it got syntium
so that's y i wonder wether petronas still the premium sponsor cos bmw logo...on the nose only izzit?small2 1 sweat.gif  doh.gif
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u dont need a big logo on ur car if ur name is already on the Team's name
e.g. do u see big ferrari or big mercedez's logo on their cars? tongue.gif
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QUOTE(rambolee @ Mar 23 2006, 02:54 PM)
nope
as long as the fuel is close to the composition of ordinary, commercially available petrol, then it should be ok

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i read or heard in some documentary show regarding F1, they did mention on the fuel which they process once a year b4 the season start, so the whole season everyone will be using the same fuel.

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nope
as long as the fuel is close to the composition of ordinary, commercially available petrol, then it should be ok
u dont need a big logo on ur car if ur name is already on the Team's name
e.g. do u see big ferrari or big mercedez's logo on their cars? tongue.gif
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now i get it...10x

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i read or heard in some documentary show regarding F1, they did mention on the fuel which they process once a year b4 the season start, so the whole season everyone will be using the same fuel.

wah...like that?i never heard such thing... sweat.gif
if it's true, damn that's alot of fuel 2 b processed...i mean each team got testing 4 hundreds of km(or izzit thousands?)...so 11 teams... rclxub.gif
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i read or heard in some documentary show regarding F1, they did mention on the fuel which they process once a year b4 the season start, so the whole season everyone will be using the same fuel.
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i remember merz using mobil
sauber use petronas
ferrari use shell
dont remember about others

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bmw sauber the F1 car looks more CANTIK edi
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[quote=rambolee,Mar 23 2006, 10:34 AM]
BMW has quality driver, JV was championship once, heidfield wasnt top driver but he is considered as a top10 driver


yet i wonder why they cant win races like last time.. blink.gif
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Teh F1 fuel is the same as the one used by the companies to sell for regular consumers. this is because the FIA want's the technology used to be shared with regular ppl.

McLaren - Mobil 1
Williams - Petrobras/Castrol/Texaco (will change according to venue, same company)
Ferrari - Shell
Red Bull - Shell (part of engine agreement with Ferrari)
BMW Sauber - Petronas (with Syntium as engine lube)
Renault - ELf



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[quote=benQue,Mar 23 2006, 05:13 PM]
[quote=rambolee,Mar 23 2006, 10:34 AM]
BMW has quality driver, JV was championship once, heidfield wasnt top driver but he is considered as a top10 driver
yet i wonder why they cant win races like last time.. blink.gif
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becoz BMW and sauber is newly partner
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william make the most money from the fuel sponsorship lol...using so many diff type, even its same company must some extra loyaly fee tongue.gif
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Nope. Texaco is the parent company of both Castrol and Petrobras. Usually, they will use petrobras as the sponsor, but for races where petrobras is not sold in the country (like here and the USA), it's changed to the one more that is sold here. No extra money paid. it's the right of the sponsor
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Thought you guys might enjoy pics of BMW.Sauber team. Taken during Sepang 2006 qualifying and race. I was a guest of Mercedes Benz in the paddock. So I took these shots from the roof of the paddock.

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Bonus pic. Sepang pit girls! smile.gif Check out Tan Sri Hassan Marican in the background looking like he got caught drooling at the girls! HAHAH! laugh.gif
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nice pictures...but very stupid girls...hahah
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QUOTE(Jackygwh @ Mar 25 2006, 04:14 PM)
heh ? kinda cute leh the gals....... smile.gif not bad
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Jacques Villeneuve with girlfriend Johanna

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not very cute la.... doh.gif  doh.gif  doh.gif

i think my grandmother more cute from this silly girls.....
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i dont think so
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Jacques Villeneuve with girlfriend Johanna
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sepang is the 1st time he show his new gf to the world...
she is from paris..
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no not cute la... biggrin.gif they hav good body shape brows.gif ur grandma body wont be keeping up til tat good kua ? sweat.gif
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aiyarrkk...!! just recognized the intel advertisement at the f1 car..!! why not AMD?? tongue.gif
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BMW Sauber's Mario Thiessen today, released a press report regarding rumours on his car's apperent 2nd engine blowup in as many races. Thiessen was quoted as saying, "Regradless of what every reporter is saying, the engine did not blow up because of processor overheating. It has nothing to do with the Intel Processor at ALL!". He was also commenting that while some say the AMD is the faster processor, BMW managed to finish in front of both AMD powered Ferrari.
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lol... its not just the battle between teams, but its a battle between processors as well eh
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QUOTE(no name @ Mar 25 2006, 06:17 PM)
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a pretty gal mah....may be not cute...but she is pretty...if she can become ur gf...u wan or not....
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lol... its not just the battle between teams, but its a battle between processors as well eh
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This processor thing is absurd, even the best supercars have clock speeds less than 100Hz.
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petronas suppose to be green right? how come the it go with the blue color?? biggrin.gif
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If the name Petronas is green, and the rest of the car is dark blue and white, won't look nice. biggrin.gif
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it will look weird with the green at the car....
it will totally damaged the nice look of the car.....
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good performance by BMW Sauber..got 4th n 6th..
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QUOTE(chtanray @ Apr 2 2006, 04:12 AM)
it will look weird with the green at the car....
it will totally damaged the nice look of the car.....
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yeah.. actually petronas in blue also look nice biggrin.gif
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at lap 45...he is at 2nd place....but after safety car out..heidfield lost 3 position..luckily juan retired
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not bad 4th n 6th place rclxms.gif hopefully can get podium in the nx race icon_rolleyes.gif

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both of them are strong(jacques n nick)
most important is the car is good, if they have more reliable engines then im sure both the car can b in position to get at least podium..
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not bad 4th n 6th place rclxms.gif hopefully can get podium in the nx race icon_rolleyes.gif
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they are not good at getting podium
but places around 4-8 should be good
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hopefully can finish at least once on podium biggrin.gif
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i believe they can achieve that..
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hopefully can finish at least once on podium  biggrin.gif
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i think they can do more than that! go-go-BMW-sauber team!
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i believe their engine will b more reliable after the 1st 2 races as u can c both cars able to score for the previous race because they hand pick the components for the engine..
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QUOTE(jiunkei_46 @ Apr 7 2006, 11:30 PM)
i believe their engine will b more reliable after the 1st 2 races as u can c both cars able to score for the previous race because they hand pick the components for the engine..
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yeah sure will be more stable after this ..coz the 1st 2 race is run in the hot weather......mean engine heat will increased....for the coming race, most of them r at Euope....so it will be cool weather...so engine heat oso not so high...then oso better n stable car will come out from there...
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agree with u...as we can c at australia, they do have wat it takes to get a win..at least they are better than honda or button..haha
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Damn, Heidfield should have that podium
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QUOTE(chtanray @ Apr 9 2006, 02:05 PM)
yeah sure will be more stable after this ..coz the 1st 2 race is run in the hot weather......mean engine heat will increased....for the coming race, most of them r at Euope....so it will be cool weather...so engine heat oso not so high...then oso better n stable car will come out from there...
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but in cool weather, teams will go 4 smaller radiator to reduce overall weight, so the heat dissipation is less efficient, so kenot b sure that in cool weather, there'll b no engine overheating
during rain oso got engine failure maa
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QUOTE(Hiwatari @ Apr 10 2006, 04:18 PM)
but in cool weather, teams will go 4 smaller radiator to reduce overall weight, so the heat dissipation is less efficient, so kenot b sure that in cool weather, there'll b no engine overheating
during rain oso got engine failure maa
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i dunno about radiator thing....as i am not expert in this...
but about the engine overheating, i just read from somewhere, so i mah comment here......anyway, i learn something from u.....
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Yeah, they reduce the radiator size so that it works just as efficient as if it was in normal weather.

The chances of engine problems are pretty much the same. But the benefit of reducing radiator size is very very big, the reliabilty is neglegible.
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QUOTE(tunertoobe @ Apr 10 2006, 08:42 PM)
Yeah, they reduce the radiator size so that it works just as efficient as if it was in normal weather.

The chances of engine problems are pretty much the same. But the benefit of reducing radiator size is very very big, the reliabilty is neglegible.
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yup...damn big the effect
1st u increase top end speed by few kph
2nd u'll get better accel
3rd u can take corner at greater speed
other i dunno...still noob rclxub.gif
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QUOTE(Hiwatari @ Apr 10 2006, 11:12 PM)
yup...damn big the effect
1st u increase top end speed by few kph
2nd u'll get better accel
3rd u can take corner at greater speed
other i dunno...still noob rclxub.gif
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if u r noob...then i become super super noob....i dunno anything about this....
i only know wat i see from the race..... rclxub.gif
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QUOTE(chtanray @ Apr 12 2006, 04:13 PM)
if u r noob...then i become super super noob....i dunno anything about this....
i only know wat i see from the race..... rclxub.gif
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u play f1 game la...become less 'noob' thumbup.gif
played f1 2k2...in setting, whenever i used smaller radiator...the overall performance increased...but can only finish 1/2 of the race...then engine failure doh.gif dunno wether it's the weather or my driving style sweat.gif
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Frustated.
I thought when I saw the word BMW, they were using Williams engine.
But nope.
Then no hope lah.
Sauber should sponsor Williams...better car and faster engine.
Williams has no sponsors this season...pity them.
They have great cars.

As for me...Raikkonen all the say ;-)
Hate Alonso..Spanish clown (see his gestures after he wins? Stupid gestures)
He won last year just by luck...pure luck.

p.s: not gonna support McLaren anymore when Alonso join in.
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QUOTE(yusri1426 @ Apr 12 2006, 11:36 PM)
Frustated.
I thought when I saw the word BMW, they were using Williams engine.
But nope.
Then no hope lah.
Sauber should sponsor Williams...better car and faster engine.
Williams has no sponsors this season...pity them.
They have great cars.

As for me...Raikkonen all the say ;-)
Hate Alonso..Spanish clown (see his gestures after he wins? Stupid gestures)
He won last year just by luck...pure luck.

p.s: not gonna support McLaren anymore when Alonso join in.
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williams where got engine?they're the 1 sponsoring...not the engine maker doh.gif
u mean petronas should sponsor bmw?well they r currently sweat.gif
better car...no comment...faster engine...mayb, but at a high cost...both got engine failure in sepang, sauber meanwhile, only heidfeld, n that's at the final stage of the gp(8 laps 2 go)...so i think i'm very proud of sauber's performance this year notworthy.gif
who say williams got no sponsor?f1 is not that cheap...go here under williams f1 team logo...u can find lots of sponsors...big 1

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QUOTE(Hiwatari @ Apr 12 2006, 07:00 PM)
u play f1 game la...become less 'noob' thumbup.gif
played f1 2k2...in setting, whenever i used smaller radiator...the overall performance increased...but can only finish 1/2 of the race...then engine failure doh.gif dunno wether it's the weather or my driving style sweat.gif
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oic...u learn those thing from the game......will consider to play....
but no more time ler....coz i got my game playying now......is online game, last long one.....so may be temporary get the info from u 1st....
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Maybe I heard it wrong but the commentators mentioned that Williams
is not like last season where they have a lot of sponsors.

I prefer 8TV's F1 coverage compare to Astro Super Sport...to me their
commentators is boring...especially the moustache glasses guy.
He think he knows everthing...but he's doesn't.

8TV's commentators is ok..Martin Brundle
Ex-F1 drivers and they know what they are talking about.

I mean Petronas should use Williams engine & car.
Williams Cosworth right?
Should be Williams Petronas etc.




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QUOTE(yusri1426 @ Apr 12 2006, 11:36 PM)
Frustated.
I thought when I saw the word BMW, they were using Williams engine.
But nope.
Then no hope lah.
Sauber should sponsor Williams...better car and faster engine.
Williams has no sponsors this season...pity them.
They have great cars.

As for me...Raikkonen all the say ;-)
Hate Alonso..Spanish clown (see his gestures after he wins? Stupid gestures)
He won last year just by luck...pure luck.

p.s: not gonna support McLaren anymore when Alonso join in.
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dude, BMW provides engine, not Williams
williams is a F1 team, mostly provide technical support and strategy
sauber is a F1 team too, so Sauber and williams not going to sponsor each other...and obviously they are not the sponsors, coz they provide services
so when u said sabuer should sponsor williams? means they will be a best team but without an engine..lol

yeah....agree with u to the stupid gesture..hehe...alonso starting to get arragont..but it wont last long tongue.gif

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QUOTE(yusri1426 @ Apr 13 2006, 07:58 AM)
Maybe I heard it wrong but the commentators mentioned that Williams
is not like last season where they have a lot of sponsors.

I prefer 8TV's F1 coverage compare to Astro Super Sport...to me their
commentators is boring...especially the moustache glasses guy.
He think he knows everthing...but he's doesn't.

8TV's commentators is ok..Martin Brundle
Ex-F1 drivers and they know what they are talking about.

I mean Petronas should use Williams engine & car.
Williams Cosworth right?
Should be Williams Petronas etc.
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oic...u learn those thing from the game......will consider to play....
but no more time ler....coz i got my game playying now......is online game, last long one.....so may be temporary get the info from u 1st....
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some of it...others from site n listening 2 the commentators...they're really informative notworthy.gif
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Maybe I heard it wrong but the commentators mentioned that Williams
is not like last season where they have a lot of sponsors.

I prefer 8TV's F1 coverage compare to Astro Super Sport...to me their
commentators is boring...especially the moustache glasses guy.
He think he knows everthing...but he's doesn't.

8TV's commentators is ok..Martin Brundle
Ex-F1 drivers and they know what they are talking about.

last season they're not s competitive s b4...so can't really help it when not much sponsors turn up...even ferrari like that i think, vodafone will sponsor mclaren after this bcos ferrari was sweat.gif last season

i can't help 2 agree w/ u...they're the best, dl-ed the au gp, shocked 2 find out it's diff ppl that doing the talking...mayb it's just bcos i dun really like their voices...but when they take commercial break during the actions...now that is unacceptable...summore they cannot diff between red bull racing n torro rosso...WTH was that all about?a total noob doing the commentating?wasted my 1.3gb space vmad.gif

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I guess I'm not quite clear with the names of teams in F1.
Quite confusing sometimes.


The point that I wanted to say is...wish that Sauber cars is as fast Williams or Sauber drivers using Williams cars.
They have fast cars...can fought Renault and McLaren.
Pity BAR Honda...just a few yards..engine blew up...imagine if Jenson is on his way
to win his first GP? I think he'll threw the steering wheel as far as he could after he
got out of his car tongue.gif

Alonso...kiss my a**
Arrogant huh!
Luck...pure luck last season.
Raikkonen is the world champion last year.
Well...McLaren's liabilities really sucks.
Although I support them.
We'll see if they can deliver in San Marino on the 24th April.

As for Ferrari...Ferrari was built for speed..pure and simple.
But since the new regulations...they have been struggling.
If not...Renault would never ever be on top last season.
McLaren & Ferrari would be neck to neck like the previous season.
Anyway, had enough la with Schuey winning each time...bored me tongue.gif

Toyota is improving.
Give them time...they will be world champion.
Rich team...don't underestimate Japan.






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QUOTE(yusri1426 @ Apr 13 2006, 01:47 PM)
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I guess I'm not quite clear with the names of teams in F1.
Quite confusing sometimes.
The point that I wanted to say is...wish that Sauber cars is as fast Williams or Sauber drivers using Williams cars.
They have fast cars...can fought Renault and McLaren.
Pity BAR Honda...just a few yards..engine blew up...imagine if Jenson is on his way
to win his first GP? I think he'll threw the steering wheel as far as he could after he
got out of his car  tongue.gif

Alonso...kiss my a**
Arrogant huh!
Luck...pure luck last season.
Raikkonen is the world champion last year.
Well...McLaren's liabilities really sucks.
Although I support them.
We'll see if they can deliver in San Marino on the 24th April.

As for Ferrari...Ferrari was built for speed..pure and simple.
But since the new regulations...they have been struggling.
If not...Renault would never ever be on top last season.
McLaren & Ferrari would be neck to neck like the previous season.
Anyway, had enough la with Schuey winning each time...bored me  tongue.gif

Toyota is improving.
Give them time...they will be world champion.
Rich team...don't underestimate Japan.
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hehe.....yeah....sauber need faster car....guess BMW engine will improve soon
actually with next year michellin pulling off, i guess renault/merz or alonso wont be dominating
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QUOTE(yusri1426 @ Apr 13 2006, 01:47 PM)
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Alonso...kiss my a**
Arrogant huh!
Luck...pure luck last season.
Raikkonen is the world champion last year.
Well...McLaren's liabilities really sucks.
Although I support them.
We'll see if they can deliver in San Marino on the 24th April.
wah...evry post u say hate alonso, hate alfonso...that's a lot of hatred blush.gif

what liabilities?business aaa?or account? doh.gif

well, let's hope last year won't b repeated...damn kimi is fired up...threw his steering wheel once entered his pit icon_question.gif
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He did that last year. biggrin.gif Or was it 2004? huh.gif
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QUOTE(tunertoobe @ Apr 13 2006, 08:28 PM)
He did that last year.  biggrin.gif  Or was it 2004?  huh.gif
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The car's liabilities...a lot of problems...engine..speed etc.
But Kimi said that once the liability of the car is solve...more podium finishes.


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QUOTE(yusri1426 @ Apr 13 2006, 10:33 PM)
The car's liabilities...a lot of problems...engine..speed etc.
But Kimi said that once the liability of the car is solve...more podium finishes.
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now i got it when u say it lidat
u mean REliability? sweat.gif
i tot it's sth else doh.gif
but this yr quite good, yet 2 hv engine failure during the race thumbup.gif
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mayb liability is the short of reliability tongue.gif
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QUOTE(Hiwatari @ Apr 13 2006, 09:26 PM)
last year, imola, leading the pack, then got driveshaft prob if i'm not mistaken
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QUOTE(tunertoobe @ Apr 14 2006, 12:59 PM)
Oh yeah.  laugh.gif
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the commentator, the 1 in the pitlane besides the woman...even he was like shocking.gif shocking.gif shocking.gif when he saw 'flying steering wheel'

wonder where he got the title 'iceman'...not that 'cool' after crashed
but he is oso hot(dun misinterpret ya, i'm 'normal' whistling.gif ) when racing, in which i like it very much thumbup.gif
flying finn does sounds much reasonable rclxms.gif
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Miss Mika though.
Schuey so jealous in the press conference after Mika won his last World Champ.

Kimi threw steering wheel?
I guess he's still a hot tempered person.
He doesn't talk much.

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QUOTE(yusri1426 @ Apr 14 2006, 06:11 PM)
Miss Mika though.
Schuey so jealous in the press conference after Mika won his last World Champ.

Kimi threw steering wheel?
I guess he's still a hot tempered person.
He doesn't talk much.
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really?hakkinen's wife?i only remember the female commentator(more like interviewer) name was like Louise?(typo?)
but i didn't mean her...i mean the other guy...Tedd sth...Kravits?LOL i really dunno bout the name doh.gif

n often finishes his word w/ "let's hope we'll do better in the next race"...ada maksud tu ph34r.gif

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QUOTE(yusri1426 @ Apr 12 2006, 11:36 PM)
Frustated.
I thought when I saw the word BMW, they were using Williams engine.
But nope.
Then no hope lah.
Sauber should sponsor Williams...better car and faster engine.
Williams has no sponsors this season...pity them.
They have great cars.

As for me...Raikkonen all the say ;-)
Hate Alonso..Spanish clown (see his gestures after he wins? Stupid gestures)
He won last year just by luck...pure luck.

p.s: not gonna support McLaren anymore when Alonso join in.
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ok, even if Sauber has an engine, how are they gonna sponsor Williams when they are the ones who sold the team to BMW? the reason the the old Sauber is fast is bcoz they are using Ferarri engines. anyways, it will be a good fresh start for them, i've always been optimistic to this team. no matter what, they will bounce back and create surprises.

i like mclaren mercedes for its driver, Kimi. this fella is a good driver, but many times he fails coz of technical problems. hope he can do it this time and clinch the champion this season.
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Red Bull is using the Ferrari engine and does not go well at all this year. and Peter Sauber himself felt that F1 really is too much for him, thus he sold his company to BMW.
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QUOTE(linkinstreet @ Apr 14 2006, 11:37 PM)
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Red Bull is using the Ferrari engine and does not go well at all this year. and Peter Sauber himself felt that F1 really is too much for him, thus he sold his company to BMW.
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good engine is only ONE of the receipt 2 victory
u'll need more than just good engine 2 do well

2k4 if i remember, sauber used 2k4 ferrari engine w/ 2k3 ferrari chassis...but they didn't perform s good s the prancing horse

so does in A1 GP...same car, engine, but still the competition is not that tight...good team stays in front, 'not so good' settles bhind
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Red Bull is using the Ferrari engine and does not go well at all this year. and Peter Sauber himself felt that F1 really is too much for him, thus he sold his company to BMW.
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sauber is sold to BMW?
i dont think so
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What? You didn't know?
Sauber is sold to BMW, Minardi to Red Bull and Jordan to Midland.
But BMW felt that as many of teh sauber engineers are still with the team, it's rude not to include the Sauber name. also, Peter Sauber now only goes to the Malaysia GP because he's the PR for BMW and Petronas relationship. Other than that, he won't be involved in F1 anymore
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coz normally if the company is sold
the name wont be retained
weird

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eh guys, we really need to pm any moderators to pin this up.....we even got more replies compared to Renault's.
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QUOTE(sqwerk2 @ Apr 17 2006, 10:27 PM)
eh guys, we really need to pm any moderators to pin this up.....we even got more replies compared to Renault's.
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San Marino Qualifying has ended but this thread seems to be quiet...
though they didnt have the best qualifying, but there is still chances for them to perform tmr..
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haiz...heidfeld la... doh.gif
at least JV still doing great
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actually if JV given a good car and good support from the team, i believe he can perform..he did quite well this season from my opinion..
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Hey guys I'm optimistic that Heidfeld can finish in the points biggrin.gif and he should also finish ahead of Jacque. If it wasnt for the crash on qualifying i'm sure he'd be fighting within the top 10 starting positions. So everyone lets keep your eyes locked on to our 'quick nick'
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unlucky for BMW Sauber as this race is a race to forget..JV finished in front of Nick..they going to improve in order to get a better finish..
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they need to work harder as a new team tongue.gif
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QUOTE(rambolee @ Apr 24 2006, 08:19 AM)
they need to work harder as a new team tongue.gif
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Yup yup... They are a new team and they are learning every race... Toyota is up there because they have a huge budget, in fact the biggest in F1... but now BMW... So, I guess we still have to wait for maybe another 2 seasons before they make a huge impact... At the moment, I still think BMW is an average team... But I am proud of it... tongue.gif

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erm..dunno which driver they will have for next season???
anyone thinks that JV still continue??
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QUOTE(jiunkei_46 @ Apr 26 2006, 03:51 AM)
erm..dunno which driver they will have for next season???
anyone thinks that JV still continue??
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he's once dreamed sitting inside a ferrari's cockpit... rolleyes.gif
i wan alex in 'our' car flex.gif
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alex young? no way
we will be humilated by him
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but at LeMans he is fast...
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he can't even qualified within 107% of the top
no chance to race at all most of the time
lol

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QUOTE(rambolee @ Apr 26 2006, 10:32 AM)
he can't even qualified within 107% of the top
no chance to race at all most of the time
lol
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but that's bcos he's w/ minardi
perhaps later alex oso can become WC? drool.gif alonso oso started off w/ minardi
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well, his teammate can qualified
why not him

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gotta how he progress at LeMans n next season A1..
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that's are like second level's competition

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well guys, finally this thread is pinned up. all thanks to theripper.

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at last this thread is pinned..BMW Sauber!!!!
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QUOTE(Hiwatari @ Apr 26 2006, 12:38 PM)
but that's bcos he's w/ minardi
perhaps later alex oso can become WC? drool.gif alonso oso started off w/ minardi
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WC for A1 maybe la but for F1 shocking.gif
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he's too old. and Webbo also was with minardi. So does Trulli and Fisichella
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WC for A1 maybe la but for F1  shocking.gif
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p/s:lol...no wonder i can't seem 2 find this thread below...it's been pinned liao doh.gif
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at last this thread is pinned..BMW Sauber!!!!
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thanks mod....will make sure always active...
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he's too old. and Webbo also was with minardi. So does Trulli and Fisichella
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wohhhh
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from the pics, the red bull car somehow does resemble the old sauber petronas car....
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All red ul sponsored race cars looks like that, from F1 to carts. It's their identity
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y showing redbull in BMW thread?
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QUOTE(sqwerk2 @ May 3 2006, 12:52 AM)
from the pics, the red bull car somehow does resemble the old sauber petronas car....
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bcos of this...
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it does look like the old sauber petronas
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where got 1/10?
almost 50%
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where got 1/10?
almost 50%
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he is saying that the car is a 1/10 model...
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what's a 1/10?
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QUOTE(rambolee @ May 3 2006, 02:35 PM)
what's a 1/10?
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it means the scale of the car compare 2 real car
means the car is only 10% of the size of the real car
senang cakap....radio controlled car(RC) icon_rolleyes.gif
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i see
didnt even notice
lol
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QUOTE(rambolee @ May 3 2006, 03:01 PM)
ohh
i see
didnt even notice
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haha...ez...jz look at the tire...no brake disc
then thru the mirror...erm, no seat? rolleyes.gif

edited : i'm not sure what scale that car is...but definitely not 1/1 thumbup.gif it's quite detailed 4 1/10...summore the body clip is in diff pos from normal 1/10 car

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i think that model is smaller than 1/10..shld b 1/24 or 1/18..
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1/24 1/18? is that a standardization?
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usually those model scaled cars are scaled in 1/18 or 1/24 of the actual size..
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ohhhh
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like ISO
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y suddenly red bull talks ady?

p/s hate what they did to the mini and beetle tho....
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QUOTE(jiunkei_46 @ May 3 2006, 04:13 PM)
i think that model is smaller than 1/10..shld b 1/24 or 1/18..
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like ISO
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iso is what?the image file?
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oh..its a rc..

i think his ISO is international standards organisation
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now wats a RC
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QUOTE(rambolee @ May 4 2006, 08:26 AM)
now wats a RC
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RC-remote control..
that car is an RC car..
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QUOTE(rambolee @ May 4 2006, 08:59 AM)
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yaaa...i have two models
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hahaha....the last time i play RC was like 15 years ago?
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heh, our bmw thread damn rojak....now talking bout RC....
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haha...at least still got ppl talking though not that related...
has any company come out with BMW Sauber's model cars?
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QUOTE(jiunkei_46 @ May 4 2006, 08:48 AM)
RC-remote control..
that car is an RC car..
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it's more likely radio controlled rather than remote controlled
if not...even our TV oso can b consider s RC lol laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
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QUOTE(no name @ May 4 2006, 03:13 PM)
yaaa...i have two models
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heh, our bmw thread damn rojak....now talking bout RC....

better than nothing...like ren**lt thread rolleyes.gif damn yawn.gif
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has any company come out with BMW Sauber's model cars?

go ask that kid in temerloh...he got 1 rclxms.gif

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heh, our bmw thread damn rojak....now talking bout RC....
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The 2006 European Formula 1 Grand Prix - Qualifying

Qualifying Session Results

P Driver Team Tyre S1 Laps S2 Laps S3 Laps
1 F. Alonso Renault M 1:31.138 3 1:30.336 3 1:29.819 14
2 M. Schumacher Ferrari B 1:31.235 3 1:30.013 3 1:30.028 13
3 F. Massa Ferrari B 1:31.921 4 1:30.732 4 1:30.407 13
4 R. Barrichello Honda M 1:31.671 4 1:30.469 3 1:30.754 13
5 K. Raikkonen McLaren M 1:31.263 3 1:30.203 3 1:30.933 14
6 J. Button Honda M 1:31.420 4 1:30.755 3 1:30.940 14
7 J. Trulli Toyota B 1:31.809 6 1:30.733 6 1:31.419 14
8 J. Villeneuve BMW Sauber M 1:31.545 3 1:30.865 6 1:31.542 14
9 JP. Montoya McLaren M 1:31.774 3 1:30.671 6 1:31.880 15
10 M. Webber Williams B 1:31.712 4 1:30.892 3 1:33.405 14
11 R. Schumacher Toyota B 1:31.470 6 1:30.944 7
12 N. Rosberg Williams B 1:32.053 4 1:31.194 3
13 G. Fisichella Renault M 1:31.574 3 1:31.197 6
14 D. Coulthard Red Bull M 1:31.742 7 1:31.227 6
15 N. Heidfeld BMW Sauber M 1:31.457 3 1:31.422 6
16 V. Liuzzi Toro Rosso M 1:32.621 6 1:31.728 6
17 C. Klien Red Bull M 1:25.410 6
18 C. Albers MF1 Racing B 1:27.088 6
19 S. Speed Toro Rosso M 1:25.437 8
20 T. Monteiro MF1 Racing B 1:26.820 6
21 T. Sato Super Aguri B 1:27.609 6
22 F. Montagny Super Aguri B 1:29.282 8

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Jacques seems to be good...and looking good to score points here..
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Just don't drop out of 8th place, that's one point right there.
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Race Results

1 M. Schumacher Ferrari B Winner
2 F. Alonso Renault M +3.6
3 F. Massa Ferrari B +4.4
4 K. Raikkonen McLaren M +4.8
5 R. Barrichello Honda M +72.5
6 G. Fisichella Renault M +74.1
7 N. Rosberg Williams B +74.5
8 J. Villeneuve BMW Sauber M +89.3
9 J. Trulli Toyota M 1 lap behind
10 N. Heidfeld BMW Sauber M 1 lap behind
11 S. Speed Toro Rosso M 1 lap behind
12 T. Monteiro MF1 Racing B 1 lap behind
13 C. Albers MF1 Racing B 1 lap behind

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luckily JV got a point for the team..seems that nick just dun have the speed the whole weekend..during the race he seems to need more distance to enter the chicane than JPM..
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rolling back tragedy....
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lets begin back with JV scoring a point for them... haha
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only 13made it to the chequed flag......both Sauber BMW finished the race......... thumbup.gif and thats good on reliability I guess...

p/s had troubles in diffenciating BMW Sauper & Honda Azzuri in Sepang last time sweat.gif
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if nick can have his car probs solve then i think he shld b there to score some points..
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QUOTE(pilotHans @ May 9 2006, 05:46 PM)
only 13made it to the chequed flag......both Sauber BMW finished the race......... thumbup.gif and thats good on reliability I guess...

p/s had troubles in diffenciating BMW Sauper & Honda Azzuri in Sepang last time  sweat.gif
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they are so much different ! are u color blind?
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they are  so much different ! are u color blind?
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that's why i ask the question
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welll if u say u cant differentiate McLaren and STR, then okie lah... haha...
Hope they go faster, can challenge BAR Honda
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welll if u say u cant differentiate McLaren and STR, then okie lah... haha...
Hope they go faster, can challenge BAR Honda
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i think its not STR but Midland..
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MF1. but STR and TRB are also very hard to diffrenciate
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even the commentator sometimes kena blur by MF1 and mclaren
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FIA shld have done something about it
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Why? The FIA cannot intervene with the decals of sponsors as it's contracted. the only time that the FIA banned a livery was in '99, when BAR want's to run in two different car colours. and even that, it was not because of the livery itself
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mclaren should stay silver instead mixing some red
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seriously, i think the current mclaren color sux. i prefer the previous one.
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I dunno, i love this one more.
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i love both...i think their design is great n nice...
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Spanish GP: Qualifying - BMW Sauber F1 Team

BMW Sauber F1 Team driver Nick Heidfeld qualified tenth in Barcelona. His team-mate, Jacques Villeneuve, will start from the back of the grid with a fresh engine for the Spanish Grand Prix.

Nick Heidfeld:
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Qualifying: 10th, 1:17.144 min (3rd practice 3rd, 1:16.057 min)
I am happy to be in the top ten as the lap times are quite close. I think it would have been difficult to beat the other cars in front of us, and even though I lost some time with Ralf in front, honestly I don't think it would have changed anything regarding my position. The set up was fine on one lap, and I hope we can see the same tomorrow over a race distance. The balance of the car changed, and it was quite different for all three outings.

Jacques Villeneuve:
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Qualifying: 14th, 1:15.847 min (3rd practice 17th, 1:17.924 min)
The first run went very easily and the balance was very good, but then the wind picked up and the car's balance changed. We still concentrated for the set-up on what we need for the race with high fuel and all that. We were not at the optimum for qualifying, but I was still expecting better than that.

Mario Theissen (BMW Motorsport Director):
Once again it was very tight. After the first part of qualifying there was less than a second between first and 14th places. In the second part the first 11 drivers were within one second of each other. For us we had different strategies. It was clear Jacques would not be able to start in the top ten because of the engine change. For Nick we concentrated on getting him into the top ten, which is exactly what he achieved. On his first lap he got stuck in traffic which cost him quite a lot of time. What his starting position will be worth compared to the opposition we will see tomorrow at the first pit stop. Technically the cars ran problem free. As Jacques is starting from the last row anyway, we will fit another fresh engine to give him the best possible chances for here and Monaco.

Willy Rampf (Technical Director Chassis):
Getting one car into the third qualifying session is positive as this gives us a good platform to start the race from. How good this tenth place will end up being we cannot say, as we don't know everyone's different strategies. Jacques was very good in first qualifying. Not doing so well in the second session hasn't played a very big role in his weekend, as he has to go back ten places anyway because we have changed his engine.



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Qualifying

1 Fernando Alonso Renault F1 Team Michelin 1:15.816 1:15.124 1:14.648
2 Giancarlo Fisichella Renault F1 Team Michelin 1:16.046 1:14.766 1:14.709
3 Michael Schumacher Scuderia Ferrari Marlboro Bridgestone 1:16.049 1:14.637 1:14.970
4 Felipe Massa Scuderia Ferrari Marlboro Bridgestone 1:16.359 1:15.245 1:15.442
5 Rubens Barrichello Honda Racing F1 Michelin 1:16.266 1:15.258 1:16.266
6 Ralf Schumacher Panasonic Toyota Racing Bridgestone 1:16.234 1:15.164 1:15.885
7 Jarno Trulli Panasonic Toyota Racing Bridgestone 1:16.174 1:15.068 1:15.976
8 Jenson Button Honda Racing F1 Michelin 1:16.054 1:15.150 1:16.008
9 Kimi Räikkönen Mclaren Mercedes Michelin 1:16.613 1:15.422 1:16.015
10 Nick Heidfeld BMW Sauber F1 Michelin 1:16.322 1:15.468 1:17.144
11 Mark Webber WilliamsF1 Bridgestone 1:16.685 1:15.502
12 Juan Pablo Montoya Mclaren Mercedes Michelin 1:16.195 1:15.801
13 Nico Rosberg WilliamsF1 Bridgestone 1:17.213 1:15.804
14 Jacques Villeneuve BMW Sauber F1 Michelin 1:16.066 1:15.847
15 Christian Klien Red Bull Racing Michelin 1:16.627 1:15.928
16 Vitantonio Liuzzi Scuderia Toro Rosso Michelin 1:17.105 1:16.661
17 Scott Speed Scuderia Toro Rosso Michelin 1:17.361
18 Tiago Monteiro Midland F1 Racing Bridgestone 1:17.702
19 Christijan Albers Midland F1 Racing Bridgestone 1:18.024
20 Takuma Sato Super Aguri F1 Brigestone 1:18.920
21 Franck Montagny Super Aguri F1 Bridgestone 1:20.763
22 David Coulthard Red Bull Racing Michelin

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JV will have to start from last so no point concentrating in the qualifying..hope that he can have a good race..Nick shld b able to get into points if the strategy is good..sure can overtake those toyotas.
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I'll support this team if they have good pace.
It's Malaysian team correct? tongue.gif
This year we have Williams Cosworth...they were Williams BMW last year.
They have fast cars.
What do we call Saubar if those cars join Petronas?
Williams Petronas?

I'm sure we'll be competitive.

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QUOTE(yusri1426 @ May 14 2006, 10:53 PM)
I'll support this team if they have good pace.
It's Malaysian team correct?  tongue.gif
This year we have Williams Cosworth...they were Williams BMW last year.
They have fast cars.
What do we call Saubar if those cars join Petronas?
Williams Petronas?

I'm sure we'll be competitive.
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it will most probably be Williams Petronas if they really wanna collaborate and join in as shareholders or sumthing like tht. y not?

btw, i think after nick's performance this weekend, he is starting to shape up with this team and JV was juz unlucky. if he didn't had an engine transplant, i think he got the chances to stand in top 5 today.
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QUOTE(jiunkei_46 @ May 11 2006, 02:37 AM)
i think its not STR but Midland..
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Hmm. I dont think BMW Sauber can be considered a Malaysia team. It is just the Petronas logo there. Correct me if I am wrong pls.
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Petronas now is only a major sponsor.

Just like the Ford days. sad.gif
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not a bad weekend for the Sauber team...
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JV seems to be better after his marriage..even in testing this week he is quick..
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next round in canada ya? its villeneuve's place... i think we will be able to see bmw sauber fans all over the seating areas... btw, i found tat the circuit is named circuit de gilles villeneuve... does this montreal circuit relate to jacques villeneuve too?

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its named after his father as a respect to him...btw, jv gonna release his singles during this weekend..he recorded a singles during the previous break(end of season).
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he can sing? wow
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QUOTE(sqwerk2 @ May 13 2006, 11:25 PM)
seriously, i think the current mclaren color sux. i prefer the previous one.
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i really don agree with u... shakehead.gif besides i think that the 2006 mclaren mercedes is the best-looking formula 1 car so far... it looks very special n sleek with chrome body, plus the black colored ENKEI rims make it look very mysterious and cool!
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QUOTE(rambolee @ Jun 23 2006, 03:35 PM)
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man... jacques really got busted in his own place! doh.gif how can he drive until like tat? if he crashes into the the WALL OF CHAMPIONS (which is the wall located at the last corner into the starting grid), i think he could be a champion in the season to come... haha! biggrin.gif
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total elimination in the US huh....still a long way to go for this team
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petronas is the premium sponsor of bmw sauber

no more title sponsor
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you just haveta love the twin towers on those cars laugh.gif

i was hoping it would give them a significant boost in speed and start a new trend
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hmm... i think Malaysia always like to claim this and that as our country's signature... they put up the twin wings there, then say its twin tower... lol
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Jacques really got to retire... wink.gif
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bye bye 'twin towers',& back to 14th & 16th sad.gif hopefully, they can reintroduce some other creative designs after the summer break.
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QUOTE(acougan @ Jul 29 2006, 11:14 PM)
bye bye 'twin towers',& back to 14th & 16th sad.gif hopefully, they can reintroduce some other creative designs after the summer break.
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erm...sth like TM HQ? sweat.gif what do we call that btw?
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haha, another one bites the dust. i guess taking out ur teammate in the 1st corner while being employed by a highly political team can cost u ur job. 1st montoya, now villeneuve??


QUOTE(Hiwatari @ Jul 31 2006, 08:57 PM)
erm...sth like TM HQ? sweat.gif what do we call that btw?
TM HQ is kinda like a sailboat right? they shud introduce a malaysian "wau" design on the side winglets instead of copying the mclaren's horns tongue.gif

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The McLaren horn is because they are the only team other than sauber not using a vertical T-wing mounted on the airbox. Thus the Sauber engineer copied that because it will has less impact to the aero design of the airbox compared to mounting a T-wing
the Twin tower was banned because it looked so damned ugly it insenced Max Mosley
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QUOTE(linkinstreet @ Aug 3 2006, 08:19 AM)
the Twin tower was banned because it looked so damned ugly it insenced Max Mosley
loh...kidding?
i tot any part of the car will b banned if it'll give significant advantage against other teams...like ferrari's flapping wings...or part that kills sportmanship...like renault's launch control sys
not bcos it looks damn ugly... sweat.gif

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QUOTE(Hiwatari @ Aug 3 2006, 10:34 AM)
loh...kidding?
i tot any part of the car will b banned if it'll give significant advantage against other teams...like ferrari's flapping wings...or part that kills sportmanship...like renault's launch control sys
not bcos it looks damn ugly... sweat.gif
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hmm... Jacques has not recovered from the accident... so he will be replaced by that Polish guy... whats his name again? think its something like Kubica?
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Hmm... They have not say anything about Kubica replacing Jacques permanently... But for sure, Kubica is racing this weekend... Well, there was speculation that Kubica will be taking over Jacques place next season since his contract will be over, but who knows what might happen tongue.gif
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QUOTE(Hiwatari @ Aug 3 2006, 10:34 AM)
loh...kidding?
i tot any part of the car will b banned if it'll give significant advantage against other teams...like ferrari's flapping wings...or part that kills sportmanship...like renault's launch control sys
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QUOTE(=--ChoonG->> @ Aug 3 2006, 09:51 PM)
Hmm... They have not say anything about Kubica replacing Jacques permanently... But for sure, Kubica is racing this weekend... Well, there was speculation that Kubica will be taking over Jacques place next season since his contract will be over, but who knows what might happen tongue.gif
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BUDAPEST, Aug 7 (Reuters) - BMW Sauber parted company with Jacques Villeneuve on Monday after replacing the 1997 Formula One world champion with Poland's Robert Kubica for the Hungarian Grand Prix a day earlier.

The team said the Canadian would not drive for them again this season, a decision that looks sure to end the 35-year-old's grand prix career after 163 races and 11 victories.


"Following discussions last week, Jacques Villeneuve and the BMW Sauber F1 team agreed to terminate their current contract with immediate effect five races ahead of schedule," the team said in a statement.

BMW team boss Mario Theissen thanked Villeneuve for his contribution in the German carmaker's first season since they bought Sauber last year, but said a recent accident had prompted the team to review the situation.

"Jacques has performed well for us this year, scoring the team's first grand prix points in Malaysia," he said.

"However, after Jacques's accident in the Hockenheim race, the team decided to review its options for next year, including assessing Robert Kubica in a race environment.

"Our decision to look towards evaluating our driver line-up has naturally impacted Jacques' position for the remainder of this season.

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Robert Kubica has been disqualified from the results of the Hungarian Grand Prix after his BMW Sauber was found to be underweight following the race. Kubica had finished seventh on his Formula One debut.

Stewards praised the "assistance and cooperation" they received from the BMW Sauber team, who proved that Kubica's car was inadvertently 2 kilograms below the minimum requirement because of "excessive and unexpected tyre wear (and therefore weight loss) through continued use of wet-weather tyres in comparison to the accustomed and anticipated rate of wear of dry tyres."

The stewards nevertheless had no choice but to exclude the car as it did not comply with Article 4.1 of the Technical Regulations. BMW Sauber did not contest the decision. It means Felipe Massa moves up to seventh place, with Michael Schumacher now classified eighth, despite not finishing the race.

The point Schumacher scores means he is now just ten behind Fernando Alonso in the drivers' championship standings, while Ferrari are only seven behind Renault in the race for the constructors' crown.

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QUOTE(linkinstreet @ Aug 3 2006, 11:43 PM)
dude, he banned Tyrell's X wing in 97 for the same reason. If it's fukcugly he will ban it.
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p/s:n mika salo was in that team... sweat.gif
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Jacques Villeneuve has launched a scathing attack on his former Formula One nemesis, Michael Schumacher.

In an interview, to be headlined as 'Jacques Attacks' on the cover of F1 Racing magazine next week, the axed BMW Sauber racer branded Schumacher - the seven time World Champion - as bland and a liar.

French-Canadian Villeneuve, 35, said: "I think the day he hangs up his helmet people will just forget him."

Referring to Senna, Prost and Mansell, Villeneuve added that 'those people attained a hero status that Michael never has and never will'.

Villeneuve and Schumacher's acrimony dates back to 1997, where at Jerez they collided at the climax of their championship duel. 


"Michael simply isn't a great champion," Villeneuve continued, "because he's played too many dirty tricks and because he isn't a great human being."

Villeneuve, who resigned from the drivers' GPDA body after the infamous Rascasse affair at Monaco this year, also accuses Schumacher of being a 'liar'.

"He lies not only to fans but to his fellow drivers, too. He just stared in our eyes and lied. He thinks he's bigger than the sport, and when he retires, and no one really remembers him, that will become clear."

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aiks... what's that all about? btw, i didn't watch the GP, what Rascasse incident?
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Hi there. Nick Heidfeld supporter here bt noob abt technical things.
cant wait for him to repeat his feat this weekend... biggrin.gif


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QUOTE(death mask @ Aug 24 2006, 04:06 PM)
Hi there. Nick Heidfeld supporter here bt noob abt technical things.
cant wait for him to repeat his feat this weekend... biggrin.gif
im hoping too......gogo BMW Suaber.... rclxms.gif rclxms.gif
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QUOTE(death mask @ Aug 24 2006, 04:06 PM)
Hi there. Nick Heidfeld supporter here bt noob abt technical things.
cant wait for him to repeat his feat this weekend... biggrin.gif
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Ahhh yess...BMW Sauber...why did I miss this thread....but anyway...up untill now nothing the BMW Sauber has really impress me....
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aah... a bad weekend for BMW. whats with kubica stopping and helmet off then resume the race. blink.gif
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QUOTE(antonio @ Aug 25 2006, 08:41 PM)
Ahhh yess...BMW Sauber...why did I miss this thread....but anyway...up untill now nothing the BMW Sauber has really impress me....
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bmw sauber rocks man....love bmw cars...but don't really fancy their f1 team
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hope they will do a good job this weekend!!
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they did a good time for practice....can't wait for race smile.gif
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Heidfeld did it again... qualify 3rd while kubica 7th. looka like tomorrow gonna be a big battle wit kimi msc n massa... rclxms.gif
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Congrats on Heidfield obtaining 3rd placing. It was an amazing lap time that put the BMW Sauber team in the top 3 together with Kubica who drove well gaining 7th place.
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Congrats Heidfield, surprise to see Heidfield on 3rd .....
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I have always looked up on Quick Nick. If he were to drive in a better car, i very much believe he can have a shot at the championship
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I have always looked up on Quick Nick. If he were to drive in a better car, i very much believe he can have a shot at the championship
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He has always been a consistent driver and has proven himself a couple of times this season by clinching a few pts of this season.

Looking forward to seeing him in the top grid tomorrow and how well he fence himself against the 2 sharks that is lurking behind him (Massa and Alonso) biggrin.gif
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hope no accident in the race like in turkey...kubica is 6th now...after alonso relegated to 10th smile.gif
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congrate to Heidfield.
He'll drive faster, win the race and get more point if he join top team.
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Kubica finish 3rd....!
cool race
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Kubica will be bringing a change for BMW Sauber future. tongue.gif
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ask mclaren employ him as a driver when kimi leave mclaren
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Then Alonso will have no where to go and perhaps he have to join the new Spyker MF1 team
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good result for kubica....impressed with him....but with heidfeld i dunno what when wrong...kesian him...
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QUOTE(MangKoK^ayon @ Sep 10 2006, 10:29 PM)
good result for kubica....impressed with him....but with heidfeld i dunno what when wrong...kesian him...
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Maybe he make out some mistake and end up serving his drive through penalty. That's the price he had pay for it.
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"Before the race some guys from the team came to me and told me they would like to see me on the podium, I thought it was a joke and now we are here. This time we knew we had good tyres, not only for qualifying but also for the race, unlike in Istanbul. When we got easily into qualifying three we also knew we had quite a consistent car for the race. I had a good start, but unfortunately locked the front wheels in the first corner, had flat spots and the first stint was quite difficult as I had a vibration. It was always a tough race as I had to fight with Massa and Alonso. Lapping the guys did not help as I was the first one of the group to lap them and I always lost one second. I came out of the second pit stop side by side with Alonso. Then his engine blew up and it was really risky as there was oil, Massa went off and I think had a puncture. The end of the race was quite easy for me and I just had to bring the car home. I now have the first podium of my life in Formula One. I want to thank the team for giving me this opportunity ' we all are very, very proud."
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Congrats to the Sauber team
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You've made us Malaysians proud.

Kubica...rookie of the year rclxms.gif

1st podium for him.

At Monza we now know that BMW Sauber has a good speed, at least after reaching
certain high gear.
Ferrari had a problem getting close to them when reaching certain gear.

Good job.

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a solid drive by kubica!

btw, i'm still wondering how you pronounce his name tongue.gif the starsports commentators pronounce it as ku-bit-sa while i heard it as ku-bi-ka during the post race conference.

anyone has any idea? laugh.gif
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kubica is good for only his 3rd race! good bmw kick dat smelly canadian dood away tongue.gif

n he is so tall..LOL
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QUOTE(PowerSlide @ Sep 11 2006, 05:25 PM)
kubica is good for only his 3rd race! good bmw kick dat smelly canadian dood away tongue.gif

n he is so tall..LOL
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I think he is enjoying singing now more than driving formula 1 car ..... whistling.gif

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Yea, for a rookie driver, nobody would expect Robert Kubica to standout ... And Kubica has definitely proven them wrong, his driving style is pretty calm as he manage to hold off Massa at the start of the race and at the same time clinching opportunity everytime he is able to. A great driver indeed
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Yea, for a rookie driver, nobody would expect Robert Kubica to standout ... And Kubica has definitely proven them wrong, his driving style is pretty calm as he manage to hold off Massa at the start of the race and at the same time clinching opportunity everytime he is able to. A great driver indeed
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QUOTE(iRonTech @ Sep 13 2006, 01:34 PM)
its a great move to kick JV out n get other replacement.

Kubica  thumbup.gif
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yeah, hate tat JV.....'balik kampung' edi still wanna crap whistling.gif

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kubica pronounced as kubiza....his face like a boy rite? smile.gif
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Pity sauber guys. Kubica was doing a FANTASTIC race but his type choice cost him the race. sad.gif And i was hoping heidfeid to get among the top runners. HE DID but stupid sato who have like 5 front runners behind him spoil the damn race. Grrrrr....Was hoping bmw to get better position.
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QUOTE(tifosi @ Oct 1 2006, 04:35 PM)
Pity sauber guys. Kubica was doing a FANTASTIC race but his type choice cost him the race. sad.gif And i was hoping heidfeid to get among the top runners. HE DID but stupid sato who have like 5 front runners behind him spoil the damn race. Grrrrr....Was hoping bmw to get better position.
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Yes, i was damn mad with sato..... vmad.gif this is not the first time this fools do something foolish...well to be honest both the super agugu doesn't fit to be in f1. Kubica simply because of wrong timing. Huh after such a fantactic drive.

The winner is schumi and the loser definately not alonso....its heidfeld. Wtf did sato go back to racing line when there are 4 car racing for position lapping him. Move aside far far away for god sake. doh.gif huh
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QUOTE(tifosi @ Oct 1 2006, 04:35 PM)
Pity sauber guys. Kubica was doing a FANTASTIC race but his type choice cost him the race. sad.gif And i was hoping heidfeid to get among the top runners. HE DID but stupid sato who have like 5 front runners behind him spoil the damn race. Grrrrr....Was hoping bmw to get better position.
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Kubica have to pay the price when he took the risk. tongue.gif
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Heidfeld is a sadest person in the race. really pitty him. FIA should do something on it

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Sato's fault again. This fella is a terrible driver. he shouldn't be racing in F1!
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Poor Heidfield. Impressive driving shown and yet Sato put an end to it all at the last lap. Pretty amazed at his driving and sustaining both Barrichello and Button behind him.

But i guess the Honda management team was pretty funny as there was no command to let Button pass Barrichello, and ordered them to duel it out. I guess they must want to have a look at who is better between both of them as both of them was pretty on par the whole season.


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Takumi Sato is a reckless driver.. That for sure... Act as if he is Fujiwara Takumi but end up.. a stupid driver who dunno when to give up places when his car is slow.. Should have penalty him by fining him.. No wonder Bar Honda drop him at the first place.

If only Japan bring in Fujiwara Takumi. hahah. Watch too much Initial D ady..
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QUOTE(Tsukasa @ Oct 2 2006, 01:11 AM)
Takumi Sato is a reckless driver.. That for sure... Act as if he is Fujiwara Takumi but end up.. a stupid driver who dunno when to give up places when his car is slow.. Should have penalty him by fining him.. No wonder Bar Honda drop him at the first place.

If only Japan bring in Fujiwara Takumi. hahah. Watch too much Initial D ady..
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Yea, Sato was a pretty reckless driver. What he did in Shanghai is unforgivable after what he did to Heidfield.

Btw, there is another japanese driver called Yamamoto right?!
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I really hated sato since 2 or 3 seasons ago where he shunt schumi out of race in spa i think and last season when he hit barrichello and force him to do a wing change. I was delighted when bar dropped him last season but suddenly come this super aguri that wanna hirwe him shakehead.gif
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QUOTE(tifosi @ Oct 4 2006, 06:22 PM)
I really hated sato since 2 or 3 seasons ago where he shunt schumi out of race in spa i think and last season when he hit barrichello and force him to do a wing change. I was delighted when bar dropped him last season but suddenly come this super aguri that wanna hirwe him shakehead.gif
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coz super aguri wanted 2 b 100% japanese...

n there aren't other jap F1 driver around....kaka

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QUOTE(Amanda85 @ Oct 4 2006, 06:51 PM)
coz super aguri wanted 2 b 100% japanese...

n there aren't other jap F1 driver around....kaka
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i have always believed that team super aguri is just an excuse to save takuma sato's formula 1 career in addition to adding another japanese driver to the track.

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jap wan 2 b proud of their country.....

my sis alwiz said that ever since there is super aguri, other drivers need not worried that they'll b last 2 finish d race....

coz aguri seldom can actually finish a race safely...

later v might get 2 c a all china team, probably.. icon_idea.gif

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wah, Sauber clinch 1 point with Heidfield and Kubica fighting it out and no one got anything to say ah? anyways, good drive from both of them though i wonder, does this show that Heidfield is better? tongue.gif
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of course Heidfeld is better. back then at sauber petronas he was in front of kimi most of the time. now he is in front of kubica proved his race is consistent. pity tat no one c his talent.
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yea sauber sees his talent... icon_rolleyes.gif
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Heidfeld n Kubica in top 10. can do better tomorrow.
poor Michael stuck with his car in garage.
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both sauber drivers done a great job! thumbup.gif
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BMW is good with their durability with the engine....

NEED MORE HP maybe lol.....then they can start getting on podium frequently
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Anyway, BMW is getting very competitive nowadays.

And, Yamamoto and Sato both are useless, perhaps Ajinomoto is better...
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hahah...this Sato didn't really contribute in F1 race la...simply play play there....hehehe...
well,really hope BMW Sauber Petronas can win a race...either heifield or kubica........
i saw potiential of this team after BMW bought Sauber and hope next yr they can fight with other strong team like mclaren,ferrari,ranault,honda..
at least the f1 race become more interesting tat Ferrari keep on winning
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the new car has been unveiled today! it looks spectacular!
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yea... and heidfeld is 'facelifted'... more beard and moustache on his face ah... looks more mature...
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yea... and heidfeld is 'facelifted'... more beard and moustache on his face ah... looks more mature...
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You guys have the link? Can post the pictures heer ?
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BMW Sauber uses ALbert2, one of the world's fastest supercomputers to design the car's aerodynamic body. It's main memory is 2,048 Gb - it 256 nodes with two Intel Xeon 5160 processors each, and each of these has two cores. This results in a total of 1024 cores and a maximum computing power is 12,288 GFlops. This means that Albert2 is capable of performing 12,288,000,000,000 floating-point arithmetic operations per second.

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Hope this works. sweat.gif

FOund one picture here. Sorry cannot upload because it won't let me. Not a good picture but you can see the new aero elements at the sidepods. Everyone is doing that this year. How would everyone know to put that thing there?
http://www.pitpass.com/fes_php/pitpass_new...es_art_id=30307

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there's a nice "unveiling" video at the official BMW Sauber website. go take a look.
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the new car look nice, the helmet look nice, the beard look nice. hopefully the race is more exciting this year.
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Heidfeld hopes Massa beats Raikkonen

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Nick Heidfeld says he hopes Felipe Massa beats his other ex-Sauber team-mate Kimi Raikkonen in 2007.

Amid a growing sense of anticipation for the underrated Massa's 2007 campaign, BMW's Heidfeld agrees that the Brazilian has a chance to outshine his new and high-profile Ferrari team-mate.

Heidfeld was Raikkonen's team-mate at Sauber in 2001, and at the end of the year was bitter at being overlooked for the vacant McLaren Mercedes race seat. Raikkonen's replacement at Sauber was Massa.
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"In the first tests Alonso was in front," Heidfeld answered when asked about the current state of play by the German newspaper Bild an Sonntag, "but Ferrari is clearly now the strongest team."

"I like Felipe a lot, and I could get to know him a lot better than I did with Kimi," Heidfeld continued. "I would be happy if Felipe drove out the front."

hehe... another proof of Heidfeld's bitterness at Raikkonen. that'll be an interesting watch this season, the battle of the ex-Sauber drivers...
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heidfeld tailgate kimi at season opening qualifier. kimi better watchout this year as his old-mate back to challenge him among alonso n others.
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woooo.... Heidfield qualified 3rd and Kubica 5th!! rclxm9.gif rclxm9.gif rclxm9.gif

BMW showing good pace today, hopefully that translates into great positions in race proper.
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I always believed Quick Nick has the potential to become a good racer. It's just that all these while he is not given a good car to challenge the F1 title. I think he has a chance for the 2007 season smile.gif
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maybe he can be dark horse for title? tongue.gif GOGOGOGO!!!
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Hope they can overtake and smoke the two(2) McLarens.
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BMW has a good car this year. And Heidfeld was close a few times last year to the finishing strong. Here's wishing that he grabs a podium tomorrow!!!
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not a bad finish for the team during the opening season. sadly kubica did not finish, else it might have been a 4-5 finish for the saubers. great run by heidfeld and kubica.
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yup, pity that Kubica had gearbox issues or else we would have gotten a few more points. not bad to start the season 3rd in constructors championship standings.

can't wait for Sepang!!!
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seems that this year sauber have a very good car n very good team...kubica is a new raikkonen for me...
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heidfeld really doesn't do consistent laps during race. on the first lap, he manage to get 2nd place, but in the end, we was left by lewis, who's in third place for about a few seconds. I think, kubica is faster than him.
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well, Kubica unfortunate luck continues during the race. there is something clearly wrong with his car...
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i wonder in klcc is there a bmw sauber boutique that sell the team merchandise?
lazy to go all the way to sepang to buy the polo shirt.

anyway, another solid performance from nick heidfeld. did well to keep massa behind for most of the race.

hopefully bmw can further improve the engine to match those from maclaren n ferrari in the up coming race as obviously the car still is not as competive as those front runner.
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you mean klcc?
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roughly how much the polo shirt cost? rm200 +?
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well done Heidfield! rclxms.gif 4th place is not bad at all.. at Sepang some more.. but unlucky for Kubica.. before this at Australian GP he got 7th spot rite? unsure.gif correct me if i'm wrong.... lol
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Congrats to BMW Sauber, I hope to see them on the podium soon
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QUOTE(bysquashy @ Apr 8 2007, 07:39 PM)
Congrats to BMW Sauber, I hope to see them on the podium soon
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yup this season they looks strong.. i am a fan of BMW Sauber/Sauber Petronas for the last 3 years..

next.. Bahrain GP.. hope Heidfeld & Kubica doing well
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Nice work Heidfeld.
Very experience driver.

Kubica had a problem with his car.

They do look strong.
At least 3rd position this season.

Who knows, they might took advantage on the front runners.

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QUOTE(maxizanc @ Apr 8 2007, 08:33 PM)
yup this season they looks strong.. i am a fan of BMW Sauber/Sauber Petronas for the last 3 years..

next.. Bahrain GP.. hope Heidfeld & Kubica doing well
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Good qualifying in Aus, good result in Malaysia. I just hope that Kubica can finish in Bahrain, then the standings for Sauber would be much better.
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Good luck for BMW Sauber Team!! Hope they can make it to podium..
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hahah...glad to see BMW ahead of Renault....and after ferrari & mercedes...
they're competitive.....hope they can win a race....seem their car has improved alot!
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BMW really spent lots of money into F1 and they really performed beyond expectation
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i have to say this man, frankly, i think BMW got the most beautiful cars this season. i like their car design a lot.
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Go go Heidfield! Pawn Alonso!
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QUOTE(sqwerk2 @ Apr 15 2007, 11:35 AM)
i have to say this man, frankly, i think BMW got the most beautiful cars this season. i like their car design a lot.
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yeah i agree! I like the design so much.. BMW team now is like 3rd strongest after Mercedes & Ferarri.. I hope they can teach those 2 teams what is actually BMW Sauber.. Hope they can make it to the podium..

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Finally a Malaysian company sponsored a winning team.
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Great job Heidfild !!!! smile.gif
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great drive by nick, great car indeed..i think they able to get their first win this season
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it was great 2 watch Nick take 4th place from Nando.. rclxms.gif rclxms.gif
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First podium would be nice to start with =D

You guys are almost there man biggrin.gif

A great season coming up drool.gif
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fantastic drive by Heifeld again!!!
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4th in australia, 4th in sepang, 4th in bahrain, 3rd next race? who knows =D
Gud Luck Heidfild rclxms.gif

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they got a fantastic car this term, especially the performance part. the improvements are significant compared to last season. indeed, good machines must come with good drivers, great drive by heidfeld and kubica. at least they are showing the top two teams that they too can give a good fight for the win. keep it up, i believe we can still clinch the constructors this season.
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I believe BMW has done a mighty great job since taking over from Peter Sauber.

Best of luck to you guys . Really enjoy watching Heidfild drive smile.gif
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QUOTE(KimRoss @ Apr 15 2007, 09:50 PM)
I believe BMW has done a mighty great job since taking over from Peter Sauber.

Best of luck to you guys . Really enjoy watching Heidfild drive  smile.gif
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Hey watsup? The race over yet? I cannot watch man.. please update me..

4th place how about Kubica?
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kubica was 6th...
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another malaysian org sponsoring Williams, AirAsia sad.gif
Come over to BMW plis =D
Kubica 6th tongue.gif

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hmm....its very funny to see some ppl saying "heidfield pawn alonso" doh.gif , well u can only pawn him if heidfield score more points than him overall and got the chance to win more race, however, things didn look that way. BMW is more or less the same pace as toyota now, and also renault. but given that renault with noob drivers, haih....wasted its potential liao. again...heidfield pawn alonso? <<------the joke of the weekend.
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QUOTE(edwin3210 @ Apr 15 2007, 10:10 PM)
hmm....its very funny to see some ppl saying "heidfield pawn alonso"  doh.gif , well u can only pawn him if heidfield score more points than him overall and got the chance to win more race, however, things didn look that way. BMW is more or less the same pace as toyota now, and also renault. but given that renault with noob drivers, haih....wasted its potential liao. again...heidfield pawn alonso? <<------the joke of the weekend.
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oh.. plz!! u make me sick.. Should you come here to tell that crap things? Dont be so arrogant man.. plz!
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Over exuberant fans =D
like it or not we all are all fans of F1, pwn could mean many things to different people
Maybe he's only talkin for this race leh tongue.gif
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Congrats BMW Sauber, good job.
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QUOTE(edwin3210 @ Apr 15 2007, 10:10 PM)
hmm....its very funny to see some ppl saying "heidfield pawn alonso"  doh.gif , well u can only pawn him if heidfield score more points than him overall and got the chance to win more race, however, things didn look that way. BMW is more or less the same pace as toyota now, and also renault. but given that renault with noob drivers, haih....wasted its potential liao. again...heidfield pawn alonso? <<------the joke of the weekend.
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renault got noob drivers...u call fisichella noob... yawn.gif
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er, i think the renault car package is still not as competitive as the BMW this year...
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credits to heifield.. beats alonso GG
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good job..heifield....excited tat BMW over take alonso
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BMW Sauber used to have great straight line speed (or still having it now) but they need to work more on their aerodynamic package now so that they could get out of the corner fast..
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a lot of improvement compared to Sauber last year..
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a lot of improvement compared to Sauber last year..
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for those who want to see a video of Heidfeld passing Alonso...the link is below:

Video Here
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Whoa.. u BMW fans are real crazy, even have a video of Heidfield overtaking Alonso..

Anyway, its good to see that BMW is not falling behind and Heidfield has shown some promising feats last season. Just hope that he will continue to be calm and continue to struggle to improve his standings.

Alonso probably got too confident with his skills that cause him the loss.. still no doubt, Heidfield is good in a sense..


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QUOTE(ihawk98 @ Apr 17 2007, 11:25 AM)
for those who want to see a video of Heidfeld passing Alonso...the link is below:

Video Here
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LOL.. wad is dis ? GREAT MOMENTS HIGHLIGHTS of hielfield beating alonso ? biggrin.gif biggrin.gif biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(-K3N- @ Apr 17 2007, 05:30 PM)
LOL.. wad is dis ? GREAT MOMENTS HIGHLIGHTS of hielfield beating alonso ?  biggrin.gif  biggrin.gif  biggrin.gif
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laugh.gif laugh.gif Not beating alonso but merely overtake him nia.. Heidfield still have long way to go to give alonso a beating tongue.gif

Nice driving by Heidfield thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(-K3N- @ Apr 17 2007, 05:30 PM)
LOL.. wad is dis ? GREAT MOMENTS HIGHLIGHTS of hielfield beating alonso ?  biggrin.gif   biggrin.gif   biggrin.gif
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lolx,there are more to come from this lad.....having to overtake from the outside, now tht is fast and furious laugh.gif

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QUOTE(KimRoss @ Apr 15 2007, 09:50 PM)
I believe BMW has done a mighty great job since taking over from Peter Sauber.

Best of luck to you guys . Really enjoy watching Heidfild drive  smile.gif
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As Peter Sauber says it himself, the team has a lot of potential; they just didn't have enough funding to really compete with the big boys. BMW has really bought a winner...

QUOTE(edwin3210 @ Apr 15 2007, 10:10 PM)
hmm....its very funny to see some ppl saying "heidfield pawn alonso"  doh.gif , well u can only pawn him if heidfield score more points than him overall and got the chance to win more race, however, things didn look that way. BMW is more or less the same pace as toyota now, and also renault. but given that renault with noob drivers, haih....wasted its potential liao. again...heidfield pawn alonso? <<------the joke of the weekend.
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Actually, the ESPN/StarSports commentator was saying that BMW is as good as the Ferraris and McLarens on race day, they just don't yet have the speed to out qualify them. So once they return to Europe, we could see a much improved BMW car and challenge the duopoly that exists currently.
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QUOTE(Aztec @ Apr 15 2007, 10:44 PM)
renault got noob drivers...u call fisichella noob... yawn.gif
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QUOTE(ihawk98 @ Apr 16 2007, 11:27 AM)
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i find the team's shirt very gaya. wish to buy one if i got the cash....
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QUOTE(eXyzt @ Apr 18 2007, 11:37 PM)
Actually, the ESPN/StarSports commentator was saying that BMW is as good as the Ferraris and McLarens on race day, they just don't yet have the speed to out qualify them. So once they return to Europe, we could see a much improved BMW car and challenge the duopoly that exists currently.
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They need aerodynamics now as they have the speed to compete

QUOTE(sqwerk2 @ Apr 19 2007, 09:12 PM)
i find the team's shirt very gaya. wish to buy one if i got the cash....
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post Apr 19 2007, 10:26 PM

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QUOTE(goliath @ Apr 19 2007, 09:15 PM)
They need aerodynamics now as they have the speed to compete
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250....wahh, the price really kaw man, but nevertheless, the shirt looks cool.
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post Apr 19 2007, 10:28 PM

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QUOTE(sqwerk2 @ Apr 19 2007, 10:26 PM)
250....wahh, the price really kaw man, but nevertheless, the shirt looks cool.
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