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Photography Panasonic LX7 vs Sony RX100 - In Depth Comparison!

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budgee
post Oct 3 2012, 11:28 PM

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QUOTE(mfa333 @ Sep 27 2012, 12:57 AM)
I'm not a photog so i dont know how to set camera setting manually.

just wondering:
1) this camera is good when set to auto mode? i mean point and shoot without adjusting every parameter
2) is it good in indoor/low-lighting area without using flash?

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1. For most cameras, you can use the Auto mode and it will use the defaults that you preset (such as max ISO). If you are more adventurous, you can try the Aperture priority ('A' mode), try to change the aperture and see the difference in depth of field (DOF or what is known as Bokeh - sharp at focus area but all other things in the background appear in a smooth, creamy blurriness. You can try the Shutter priority ('S' mode) and take a lot of test pictures with each setting changing the shutter speed in 'S' mode. This mode can give you the appearance of a moving car with the tyres "spinning", try shooting a moving car at 1/20 sec or lower speeds for that effect which will give you a photo that shows an object that seems to be moving.

If you try the Program mode ('P' mode), the camera will be able to shoot almost like in Auto mode.

Change the ISO to low figures for very bright situations like direct sunlight. Change the ISO to high figures like 800, 1600 for very low light. Low ISO will result in images that are clearly defined, while High ISO will cause the image to be noisy.

2. Good in indoor/low light without flash depends on the camera's lens (f1.8 and less is good) and setting a higher ISO speed without being too noisy with pixels that are not well defined.



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post Oct 6 2012, 09:47 PM

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A shot in the night.. f1.4, 1/30sec, ISO400 ( LX7 will put a message on screen that its a handheld night shot and multiple pictures will be captured in one shot)
taken 6-Oct-2012 - 8.10pm....

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post Oct 6 2012, 10:20 PM

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Rx100, f1.8, 1/100 sec, ISO 3200
taken just tomite as well tongue.gif

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post Oct 6 2012, 10:41 PM

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heh heh... same place wor.

f1.5, 1/15sec, iso400
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post Oct 6 2012, 11:20 PM

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F1.8, 1/100 sec, ISO 3200
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post Oct 7 2012, 12:32 AM

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it's fun while I try to test the LX7 at KLPF, coming the guy with RX100 and interested to see the LX7 perform.
we done a simple test with both similar setting, the results is very clear different in term of noise, sharpness and white balance.

Both have their own strength in term of user experience and quality.
I have my own winner for this test, and everyone around there should feel the same with our simple comparison. I don't want to say much about the comparison here since it is just simple and quick test. you guys just go to KLPF and test your self.


The LX7 is great for a lot of control dials and button, and the price is quite attractive!

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post Oct 9 2012, 01:12 AM

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QUOTE(budgee @ Oct 6 2012, 10:41 PM)
heh heh... same place wor.

f1.5,  1/15sec, iso400
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Is there any way to take a night shot that looks a bit closer to the rx100? I'm a newbie in this and just got a LX-7. From the comparison of your shot and idoblu, the pana's one seems very yellow. (Altho everything seems clearer, just that somehow it doesnt look very natural) Or we can just input these settings - F1.8, 1/100 sec, ISO 3200 ? (not even sure how to do this for my cam hehe)

Sorry for noob questions! notworthy.gif
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post Oct 10 2012, 12:53 AM

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yes, tested and compared LX7 is quite yellow even for the same setting as Rx100. might need to adjust it in PP.
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post Oct 11 2012, 07:01 PM

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If it appears too yellow, that is because the lights there are yellowish.

In any case, you can change the white balance before shooting.
Put the dial to iAuto, look at the four buttons forming a circle ( ISO, WB, FN, 'timer') press on the WB button,
this will put you in the white balance setting and you can set the warmth (more yelllow) or cool (more blueish).

Try it and feedback here whether it works for you or not. thumbup.gif
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post Oct 12 2012, 01:09 AM

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for comparison sake, this taken with Nikon J1. white balance on auto but processed quite a bit, if don't want to edit it's quite impossible to take such shot without a tripod+long shutter. overall it's in between RX100 (blue'ish) and LX7 (greenish). which one better depends on personal, but always shoot RAW so you can tweak the white balance later.

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Night Shot by Little Ice LYN, on Flickr

EDIT: removed the comments regarding the white balance accuracy due to wrong assumption. blush.gif

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post Oct 12 2012, 09:47 AM

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woo, ice! very nice!

way to go Nikon! rclxms.gif

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the Nikon one does look very sharp.... wait this is about lx7 vs rx100... how come nikon also come out already. If Nikon come out with a nice pancake fast lens then it will be fun.
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QUOTE(budgee @ Oct 12 2012, 09:47 AM)
woo,  ice!   very nice!

way to go Nikon!   rclxms.gif
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actually it's nice only after processing lol but it does respond to processing very well. biggrin.gif

QUOTE(0300078 @ Oct 12 2012, 10:30 AM)
wait this is about lx7 vs rx100... how come nikon also come out already.
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yup blush.gif but so happened got several shots taken at same place might as well join the fun since Nikon 1 also same sensor size as rx100. biggrin.gif



Added on October 12, 2012, 11:30 am
QUOTE(RaptoR @ Oct 9 2012, 01:12 AM)
Is there any way to take a night shot that looks a bit closer to the rx100? I'm a newbie in this and just got a LX-7. From the comparison of your shot and idoblu, the pana's one seems very yellow. (Altho everything seems clearer, just that somehow it doesnt look very natural) Or we can just input these settings - F1.8, 1/100 sec, ISO 3200 ? (not even sure how to do this for my cam hehe)
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although i don't have LX7 but you're talking about white balance which has nothing to do with aperture/shutter/ISO. most camera will have certain color characteristic when it comes to color processing but if you do set to shoot RAW+jpeg you can always use the RAW to edit later, it's like you can travel back to time and set the white balance. if you set white balance (color temperature) with jpeg, some color/contrast will be lost if you start to tweak it.

you can try M mode with shutter speed set to 1/20~1/30 depends how steady you can hold your camera, aperture to f1.4~f1.8 (smaller number means more light coming in but smallest number f1.4 might give softer looking output) and set ISO to auto so it'll choose the appropriate ISO for you. you can even try setting ISO to 200 if lots of lightings there but check the metering which should tell you it's going to be underexposed or overexposed.

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post Oct 13 2012, 05:03 PM

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Yup, that's right. White balance has nothing to do with aperture, shutter speed and ISO. White balance is to tune the warmth or coolness of the picture. For eg, if you shoot a photo with incandescent bulb lighting, it will be different from flourescent lighting. It can be adjusted though.

In LX7, you can choose the Star filter in the Creative control setting, which gives glittering stars...

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post Nov 14 2012, 01:25 PM

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Hope all the user can give some input.

How's the LX7 compared to say a ELP1 and a X10?
I know it is not a really fair comparison per se.

Reason is the E-PL1 with kit is going for RM 1k on Lelong (not sure of street price). Add a manual fish eye, its around total not much more.

What I'm interested in is the focus speed & low light. E-PL1 focus is kind of slow. Is the LX7 much faster.

Previous experience FZ28 and Pentax K100D. The FZ28 hunts & really slow. The K100d faster but at low light levels, hunts as well
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I believe LX7 sales is not doing very well for Panasonic and I think they have abandoned the line completely and focus on GM series instead.

Sony RX100 mark III has just be announced and it comes with faster aperture and live viewfinder! RX100 series totally killed the once-a-legend LX series, not killed, slaughtered.

Even I am a big Panasonic fan, I have to say if you are looking for camera of this size (serious compact), RX100 mark II or mark III is the way to go.
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QUOTE(samsungfreak @ May 17 2014, 04:49 AM)
I believe LX7 sales is not doing very well for Panasonic and I think they have abandoned the line completely and focus on GM series instead.

Sony RX100 mark III has just be announced and it comes with faster aperture and live viewfinder! RX100 series totally killed the once-a-legend LX series, not  killed, slaughtered.

Even I am a big Panasonic fan, I have to say if you are looking  for camera of this size (serious compact), RX100 mark II or mark III is the way to go.
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for panasonic fan, i think GM1 is ur answer..?

but for me im waiting RX100 price to drop! biggrin.gif
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I think I am wrong, Panasonic is not abandoning LX series!

http://www.43rumors.com/ft5-confirmed-by-t...coming-in-july/

I guess LX8 will match RX100 mark III specs with the same 1" sensor size and built-in EVF or else there is really no point to launch it at all.
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QUOTE(samsungfreak @ May 28 2014, 08:17 PM)
I think I am wrong, Panasonic is not abandoning LX series!

http://www.43rumors.com/ft5-confirmed-by-t...coming-in-july/

I guess LX8 will match RX100 mark III specs with the same 1" sensor size and built-in EVF or else there is really no point to launch it at all.
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oh wow~

http://thenewcamera.com/tag/panasonic-lx8/

i really cant decide which to buy, the rx100 or lx7.. this might be a good news for me

MIGHT~
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QUOTE(serenaslut @ Apr 26 2014, 10:11 AM)
Damn! .... Sold-out!


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