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post Jun 5 2014, 06:23 PM

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QUOTE(csong60 @ Jun 5 2014, 06:19 PM)
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http://www.lazada.com.my/import-panasonic-...ack-542542.html

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post Jun 5 2014, 06:31 PM

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QUOTE(Slevin Sent @ Jun 5 2014, 06:23 PM)
Thanks for the link.

I am an amateur in photography (basically just point & shoot) & already have the Lumix TZ30. Just about to learning to tweak with the manual settings.

Would it be a wise choice to upgrade to Lumix LX7, Sony RX100 M??? or better wait for the LX8?
Thanks for any suggestions/comments.

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post Jun 5 2014, 06:33 PM

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QUOTE(csong60 @ Jun 5 2014, 06:31 PM)
Thanks for the link.

I am an amateur in photography (basically just point & shoot) & already have the Lumix TZ30. Just about to learning to tweak with the manual settings.

Would it be a wise choice to upgrade to Lumix LX7, Sony RX100 M??? or better wait for the LX8?
Thanks for any suggestions/comments.
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i would wait for LX8.. then only decide.. no hurry for me.. biggrin.gif
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post Jun 5 2014, 07:20 PM

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QUOTE(Slevin Sent @ Jun 5 2014, 06:33 PM)
i would wait for LX8.. then only decide.. no hurry for me.. biggrin.gif
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Thanks for your suggestion.
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post Jun 5 2014, 07:41 PM

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QUOTE(Slevin Sent @ Jun 5 2014, 06:33 PM)
i would wait for LX8.. then only decide.. no hurry for me.. biggrin.gif
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Wait for all to come out. Canon G17 rumors have it also coming with an 1" sensor.

Think all the premium PNS cameras are getting at least 1" to be assured its bigger than cell phone sensors. I mean sony z2 has a 1/2.3 sensor and nokia 1020 has 1/1.5 sensor. LX7, G16, S120 all have 1/1.7" sensors so yeah they are being challenged. And Sony RX100 mk1 price keeps going down too.

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http://www.dpreview.com/products/panasonic...sonic_dmcfz1000

so LX8/9 is near?!
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post Jun 23 2014, 01:14 PM

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QUOTE(Slevin Sent @ Jun 21 2014, 04:48 PM)
Rather strange Panasonic launches the superzoom first.
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QUOTE(sniper on the roof @ Jun 23 2014, 01:14 PM)
Rather strange Panasonic launches the superzoom first.
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Its probably the 4K video marketing. GH4, first mirriorless/dslr to have 4K video. Then FZ1000 first bridge camera to have 4K video. And hopefully the LX8 will be the first premium compact to have 4K video. If they want to steal market shares away from Sony rx100 they better get that 4K feature to get a selling edge.
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QUOTE(Rice_Owl84 @ Jun 23 2014, 02:21 PM)
Its probably the 4K video marketing.  GH4, first mirriorless/dslr to have 4K video.  Then FZ1000 first bridge camera to have 4K video.  And hopefully the LX8 will be the first premium compact to have 4K video.  If they want to steal market shares away from Sony rx100 they better get that 4K feature to get a selling edge.
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Not to rain on your parade.
I wonder how would you consume 4k files. Not everyone has a 50 inch 4k tv and 4k lcd projector. There's no drastic improvements when you look at those files on normal pc monitor and you don't exactly sit in front of a 50" monitor to do your editing. Furthermore 4k ready pc still cost a bomb if you want to do native 4k editing. Presently the only advantage you get with 4k definition is doing visual effects for tracking stabilization and composition work. Not saying it won't catch on just that content delivery platform need to reach a point where it's affordable and easier to manage.
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QUOTE(6so @ Jun 23 2014, 02:23 PM)
Not to rain on your parade.
I wonder how would you consume 4k files. Not everyone has a 50 inch 4k tv and 4k lcd projector. There's no drastic improvements when you look at those files on normal pc monitor and you don't exactly sit in front of a 50" monitor to do your editing. Furthermore 4k ready pc still cost a bomb if you want to do native 4k editing. Presently the only advantage you get with 4k definition is doing visual effects for tracking stabilization and composition work. Not saying it won't catch on just that content delivery platform need to reach a point where it's affordable and easier to manage.
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Yeah I will still export the end product in 1080p. But that's what 4K is to me, footage that can be cropped without losing much quality. There's even reviews saying a cropped 4k converted to 1080p still has more details than shooting 1080p straight.

More versatility to edit to make better 1080p results. I don't have a 4K camera yet but can already imagine the benefits. But I'll be patient and wait for the 4K to mature. Mainly because I can't afford to jump from Canon to Panasonic GH4.

If the Panasonic LX8 does come with 4K video and affordable price. I will be giving that 4K a try then. If not I might be trying a Go Pro instead (I know its 4K doesn't have useable frames but 2.7K is still good). I do want a small unman camera shooting wide shots and even better if can be quality cropped.

Edit: Not sure if you can also fake a sliding panning 1080p shot from 4k footage but that be awesome, no need for sliders!

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will the LX8 image as sharp as the LX3/5 + contrast LX7(1.4f)

hmm maybe 2.0f = Summicron (if badge as Summicron = best compare to similar range?) hmm.gif
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QUOTE(Rice_Owl84 @ Jun 23 2014, 05:31 PM)
Yeah I will still export the end product in 1080p.  But that's what 4K is to me, footage that can be cropped without losing much quality.  There's even reviews saying a cropped 4k converted to 1080p still has more details than shooting 1080p straight. 

More versatility to edit to make better 1080p results.  I don't have a 4K camera yet but can already imagine the benefits.  But I'll be patient and wait for the 4K to mature.  Mainly because I can't afford to jump from Canon to Panasonic GH4. 

If the Panasonic LX8 does come with 4K video and affordable price.  I will be giving that 4K a try then.  If not I might be trying a Go Pro instead (I know its 4K doesn't have useable frames but 2.7K is still good).  I do want a small unman camera shooting wide shots and even better if can be quality cropped.

Edit:  Not sure if you can also fake a sliding panning 1080p shot from 4k footage but that be awesome, no need for sliders!
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If you ok with cropping unlike some *cough*purist*cough*, 4k or above is the way to go. Actually you can simulate a realistic shaky cam effect on a static framing or vice versa at ease as long as you frame your subject a tad wider. If can do panning for real,just do it on set. Cause the 2x magnification really does not give you a lot of room. How good is the image quality pretty much boils down to the video codec compression and sensor size. At the end of the day - what you pay is what you get. Furthermore, these cameras are the first batch so who knows how will it change down the road. I believe when laptop or tablet processing power reach a point of handling 4k materials, things will get more interesting.

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so...

http://www.43rumors.com/ft5-panasonic-lx8-...-specs-roundup/

is either different 1" sensor

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not 1" sensor (LX7 +3% = LX5 sensor size?)
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Very excited to see those premium compact on the market getting better and even better cant wait for LX1000 as badge very similar to LC1. I'm sure fixed it with an Leica lens it will be an fantastic camera as I hope rather than my RX100 I've another worthy camera too and MIJ will be the best hehe dream too much.

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