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 PROTON SAGA BLM, FL, FLX CLUB V28, Drive a Saga for Safety...from A to B...

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davidke20
post Aug 18 2012, 11:13 PM

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QUOTE(calvin_kenni @ Aug 18 2012, 10:51 PM)
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anker dabid.. mind to explain why the spare tyres need to inflate so high the pressure?
i mean let's say lar tayar pancit on the road.. and got it changed with spare tayar.. if my other donuts are running at say 33psi, and i fit this spare tayar 37psi on the car.. wont' it become unstable?

heard that can't drive more than 60kmh? and if the spare tayar is used on the front wheels it will bengkok the alignment?

thanks for clarifying

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Over inflate it because I don't check spare tayar very often lo(don't think any one of us check spare tyre pressure that often anyways) blush.gif My last experience was, when I took out my 16", it was so slorppy until I don't dare to hook it up as a replacement bakc in April/May can't remember when my Iswaga had an explode tyre. Anyway, when I reach Shell I pump in I found my spare still got 31PSI doh.gif

When you using spare tyres, you're not recommended to do anything faster than 80kmh because you wouldn't know the structure integrity of the spare tyre holds. It may explode when you applying load/speed. Meanwhile, unbalanced tyre pressure tend to give different different road surface grip. On the other hand, think about it how the hell your 1 spare tyre can fit left or right, forward radial or backward radial? Do you know every side of the tyre also specially designed for forward rotation/inner thread to have less water cutting but more draining function, where as outter thread is used to purely drain water from the centre thread? So, you're adviced to drive slow and quickly rectify your original tyre and replace it back as soon as possible. Spare tyre is for SPARE. Not as a replacement for any 1 of your current tyre.

I'm more worried of tayar bengkak as very hard for visual inspection. The last time I had with my Iswaga was the tyre bengkak, but I didn't know was still driving as the inner/outter thread of the tyre still working fine, only 1 small part at the middle got grind off until the steel radial belt cannot tahan than exploded at Kemuning toll. Now this has became 1 of my regular inspection. Every oil change I'll kneel down, use my palm to sweep through the tyre surface to check whether got bengkak/wavy rolleyes.gif
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post Aug 18 2012, 11:26 PM

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QUOTE(choonhuen.koh @ Aug 18 2012, 11:08 PM)
@zeone, @eqmal197, @calvin_kenni, tq so so much for d warm welcome, truly feel like home here, haha.

Yup, truly agree with the pleasure of driving a manual, sometimes with auto the thrill of shifting gear is not there, lol. I am actually driving an old 20 years saga & the fuel consumption is really crazily high.

I'm really looking forward to the FLX 1.3 CVT's fuel consumption compared to the manual. TQ so much calvin_kenni for feeding me with the manual's version.
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I'm an all time MANUAL fan. Until I meet with SAGA CVT! This is the only AUTO car that has all the manual quality.

i) When you hit the D, you slam on your gas pedal, your tyre will scream exactly like a manual car.
ii) When you slow down your car, the car will jerk like a manual car
iii) You'll experience the same feeling of manual car going down hill, engine braking pulling your car slowing down without applying too much brake
iv) When you corner with SAGA CVT, your front wheel continue apply torque to tyre thread, you have safe and efficient cornering than any other auto car(perhaps better than some lousy manual driver that clutch during corner)
v) CVT doesn't let the engine lazy to run RPM without purpose. Even if you hit the clutch pedal on a manual car, it waste that short time of petrol, but in CVT the transmission ratio is continued

Fuel consumption in SAGA CVT vs SAGA MANUAL is similar, why risk to brake your left foot in KL traffic? CVT is the car that you get to enjoy all the best things in manual car, only thing is it's an auto. Unless you love change gear and step on clutch so much, then I'm speechless. notworthy.gif
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post Aug 18 2012, 11:44 PM

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QUOTE(lhwj @ Aug 18 2012, 11:30 PM)
Like me lor.

YAB speechless dy laugh.gif
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post Aug 19 2012, 12:04 AM

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QUOTE(SiuYi @ Aug 18 2012, 11:49 PM)
Question: what is the size of the foglamp for saga BLM M-line?
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post Aug 19 2012, 12:34 AM

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QUOTE(zeone @ Aug 19 2012, 12:13 AM)
Dear FLX SE owners...
Can yu pls confirm or otherwise if yr Ori Stock spare rim & tyre are also 15" ones but of steel?
TQ in adv.

ATM 1 main worry of changing/upgrading 14" alloys to 15" rims is that one wld b left with 14" Alloy as spare if dun sell off ori 14" alloys.
Correct?
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i've been searching for steel rims 15" whole KL to no avail whistling.gif
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post Aug 19 2012, 01:20 AM

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QUOTE(calvin_kenni @ Aug 19 2012, 12:53 AM)
ah.. gooding stuff.. thanks YAB
about the "swollen tyres".. is there any technical term for it ar? how come i search google macam tarak reputable articles on that one?  unsure.gif
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post Aug 19 2012, 01:23 AM

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QUOTE(calvin_kenni @ Aug 19 2012, 01:02 AM)
Just now I was driving my manual saga out to tapao some roti telor at nearby mamak.

Then came to a junction with steep slope, that time red lights somemore. So kenalah stop halfway at the slope there.

As usual. i tarik handbrek and let go of my brake pedal to wait for the lights.
Manatau the car starts to reverse back slowly.

At 1st I thought i didn't pull the handbrek up completely.
So I press the brek pedal again. This time released the handbrek, and pull up slowly..
I counted got 7 clicks after pulling the handbrake to the max, which confirms that i tarik kao kao the handbrek ald..
still the car starts slide down the slopes.. doh.gif

so surely the handbrek longgar d.. how much to fix this at SC? boleh claim ke warranty?

my car is still 4 months old btw
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post Aug 19 2012, 01:35 AM

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QUOTE(calvin_kenni @ Aug 19 2012, 01:27 AM)
lol that easy kah?  rclxms.gif  sorry lar noob in krete tau pijak minyak tekan brek aje lol

and that krok krok sound when tekan brek seems like got occur.. ald used to the sound.
but heard that got a fix? how? need replace whole drumbrake?  ohmy.gif
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Just drive in SC, politely tell the technician your brake klok klok sound, sumore need to pull the brake lever all the way up to the roof also can't stop the car, they'll do all the necessary. For the brake noise issue, there is not 100% fool proof answer to you yet. Some claims they went for a warranty claim, few months later cum back. Some only went back and grind the brake shoe edge and settled once and for all. So, I guess you'll just have to send it back and hope for the best flex.gif
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post Aug 19 2012, 10:04 AM

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QUOTE(THE CLASS OF 13 @ Aug 19 2012, 02:32 AM)
anyone here has lowered their flx? what is the cheapest and safest way?

ps:tommorow want to drive may gaga balik kampung from terengganu to muar..light footed to make sure can sampai my kampung with one full tank..400km++..drive like snail..lol
btw Selamat Hari Raya maaf zahir dan batin to all gagarians.haha
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Yes. PM YAB and you shall LOWERED, because YAB recentlly already UPPERING the damn car brows.gif

QUOTE(zeone @ Aug 19 2012, 08:57 AM)
Then when 3 yrs up, like time 2change car oledi izzit?
Appears Saga these days not like Sagas of Yesteryears...
Got this Saga hoping 2go strong 4another 20yrs...can ah?
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Nobody can guarantee how far GaGa can go. If only 3 years, my GaGa already 2 years gone when I bought her. So, I need to be extra careful on the wear & tear item. Cuma bayangkan what happened back in the old skol days.

1) Went to Plotong, bought a kotak mancis GaGa.
2) On the way back home, suddenly alarm sendiri triggered pulak doh.gif
3) Sampai umah kasi paking dalam, nampak injin bocor pulak
4) Hari kedua, antar SC kasi bikin balik keta sayang kotak mancis GaGa
5) Semua dah rectified, manyak hepi on the way back home tiba² hujan. Cucuk powahwindoe... rosak shakehead.gif

Macam² ada. Those are the things that we send back for warranty when we bought the damn car. If you put it on our shoe today with the new GaGa, its exactly the same. Just different issues.

1) Went to Plotong, bought an cockroach FLX
2) On the way back home, suddenly cabin light on doh.gif
3) Sampai umah kasi paking dalam, henbrek tak cengkam keta sendiri reverse terlanggar pintu depan
4) Hari kedua, antar SC kasi bikin balik keta sayang cockroach FLX
5) Semua dah rectified, manyak hepi on the way back home, dengar pulak brek belakang krok krok krok shakehead.gif

In my opinion, car is still made the way they used to be(low cost production, bad safety precautions). Like dares said, there is extra electronics popping everywhere in the modern vehicle, so you're expected to understand which are the REGULAR maintenance. Besides of normal engine oil/gear oil/brake fluid/clutch fluid/radiator, you have more things in concern now with modern vehicle. If you do not know, the DbW(and the backup sensor-not sure whether we have 1) system need to be recalibrate every 10k service according international road safety. I'm not sure whether this listed in Plotong henbook. Old cars doesn't have catcon, and GaGa's catcon will sumbat over the long run. Many more sensors in modern vehicle, and these things aren't surviving the hai heat over the long run, which need a replacement. I believe, regular checkups and maintenance for all these electronics will be as good as a blardy reliable old cars.
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post Aug 19 2012, 10:37 AM

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QUOTE(zeone @ Aug 19 2012, 10:30 AM)
Tks a meg, YAB!!  thumbup.gif
For taking us along for that walk down Memory Lane with both ole & new Gagas.... rclxms.gif
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Rahsia sudah bongkar, you're almost same age as YAB brows.gif You also did the same thing with kotak mancis GAGA 20 years back brows.gif
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post Aug 19 2012, 10:44 AM

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QUOTE(alifsaduri @ Aug 19 2012, 10:37 AM)
Want to share to all about the long live nok-nok sound that I face and live with it almost 6 month i used my car..like kereta lembu..koh3..

As we already know, the cause are from the break drum that FLX used..I've sent my car fo fixed 3 times on a row, and the problem still come back not less than 48 hours when I leave the SC..

When my patience have a limit, I make  a call to COE for a complaints and shout..then, at last, I know, as the SA explained, they know this issue has happen for certain FLX user..and he ask me to sent my car straight to COE, not the branch..

ya..the solution, they was replace both break drum..praise to God, until today, the sound didn't appear..my though..This is only not because the break drum itself..it's also depends of the quality workmanship..

How come, the three times I make a replacement from the branch, and the problem still exist..huhu..
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It is because, a new pair of brake shoe need to grind edge before pasang masok. If your magician is kind enough, they will also slot the middle rubber so your brakepad will look like this: brows.gif brows.gif

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and performance like this: brows.gif brows.gif

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So, you're right. Vastly depending on the installation procedure. If the magician kung fu incompetent, there is a chance the same problem occurred over and over again.


Added on August 19, 2012, 10:46 am
QUOTE(alifsaduri @ Aug 19 2012, 10:43 AM)
bro david, what is that kotak mancis?
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Nah rolleyes.gif

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post Aug 19 2012, 11:12 AM

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QUOTE(zeone @ Aug 19 2012, 10:51 AM)
oops.gif  cheers.gif  rclxm9.gif
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Rasenya today all went holiday/rayaing ady yawn.gif I was thinking, with the speed of 30pages/day within 5 days a new tered will cum up liao sweat.gif
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post Aug 19 2012, 11:37 PM

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Hmm... looks like MyBi more efficient in Gymkhana hmm.gif
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post Aug 19 2012, 11:41 PM

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And this 1 is for Luke laugh.gif


Added on August 19, 2012, 11:45 pm


Next time when you guys go Genting Tauke TT, please record a video something like this lar. Atleast keep a good memory incase any of us sell car. Worst is after heard Fulat incident today, whole day also feel 窒下窒下 sad.gif

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post Aug 20 2012, 12:24 AM

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How about withness GaGa crash in a MyBi brows.gif
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post Aug 20 2012, 12:35 AM

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By the way, this plate number looks familiar hmm.gif ring any bells? hmm.gif
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post Aug 20 2012, 12:44 AM

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QUOTE(kenjilew @ Aug 20 2012, 12:37 AM)
mana dapat punya ?
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Oh YA!!!! laugh.gif

Got it from here rclxms.gif


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post Aug 20 2012, 12:53 AM

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QUOTE(dares @ Aug 20 2012, 12:51 AM)
The one who upgraded to a Lexus halfway then downgraded to Persona?  laugh.gif
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QUOTE(zeone @ Aug 20 2012, 07:37 AM)
Sorry, Bro...but above 2 vids kenot be played....on iPad...  rclxub.gif
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post Aug 20 2012, 09:01 AM

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QUOTE(zeone @ Aug 20 2012, 08:44 AM)
Probly those 2 vids can b viewed using only Adobe Flashplayer but Apple devices do NOT support such players.... sad.gif
The other one abt Gaga self-crash works! rclxms.gif
Wonder how some1 can spin, crash like dat?
No car in front...only very slight curve in road nia. Hv 2b bad/botak tyres in light rain! rclxub.gif

TQ 4sharing, Bro! thumbup.gif
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Looks like not familiar with the road. I use that road quite often. Only problem is, the accident area is slight curve, then eating in to bigger degree of action. If you drive fast, you gotta take the outter lane(left lane) first, gradually cutting into the right lane like taking a track corner. If hitting it on the fast lane, you'll have to slow down alot to avoid too much action that causes the front wheel lose traction(especially during rainy days). Afterall, M3/M5 to take that corner at 90kmh is a little too much.

If you look at the incident closely, you'll find that the driver got panic when the rear wheel drifting out to the left, whilst the steering is turning to the right(ofcourse its turning to the right!). As the rear start to drift to the left, ordinary driver will gan jeong and reverse steering.... TADAAAA!!!!! When you reverse steering, traction gain is on the left side because the car momentum is hitting that way! Then it crash and spin!

QUOTE(calvin_kenni @ Aug 20 2012, 08:46 AM)
Guys.. I notice that every time i washed my car and drive it to town (short distance).. When come back check front wheels again it got covered with lots of brake dust.. Really annoying to lap it over and over again.. doh.gif any fix for this?


Added on August 20, 2012, 8:47 am

M3 or m5 maybe?
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Plotong standard brakepads always lotsa brake dust ge. But then hor, its NOT a bad thing nod.gif More brake dust means it create friction, and wearing off the brakepads. Imagine, if you pakai heavy metal composited brakepads.... you don't see brake dust but only invisible metal asbestos created. sweat.gif Within 2 years your brake disc either warp/crack due to kena grind until too thin can not be use anymore.

You're probably right about the M3/M5 laugh.gif

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