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 AnGGUN 3 @ Rawang: Hillside Tropical Living, Gated & Guarded Dev. by Hong Bee Land

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post Aug 16 2012, 12:48 PM

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QUOTE(cheahcw2003 @ Aug 13 2012, 10:20 PM)
Was told Hong Bee Land is the sister company of Hong Leong Group. If u can trust Hong Leong Group, then shd not be any issues.
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from my understanding, HBL owned the whole land area. HBL = Hong Bee Land. They JV with HL to formed Guocoland and at the same time leave some land for their own Development thru PURA DEVELOPMENT SDN BHD. HBL is from Singapore. in terms of Financial support, it's not a worry cos they have Anggun 1 and Anggun 2 completed. smile.gif


Added on August 16, 2012, 12:49 pm
QUOTE(smooth9 @ Aug 12 2012, 02:40 PM)
Well bro, I believe Rawang is not everyone's cup of tea still although it is changing with more people liking this area everyday. .....................

Location - Distance:
I always belief that distance is a definite scientific measurement rather than objective, although we are often misguided by our perception/feeling that it is so far/long to travel to this area or that area. But, we can objectively determine the far/closeness of the location, and how long/short it takes to travel to the place that we go most often, e.g. works, or family/friends/relative etc. I have find this information by bro masbruno very helpful to determine the Distance part thumbup.gif
+1. i like your judgement. Far or close is very subjective for different individual. it's all down to own preference to determine the purchase of property and not just buy buy buy. same goes to price. expensive or cheap... very subjective. last time during Anggun 1 launch @ RM 420K, i did mentioned the price is expensive looking at the location of Rawang and put a negative view on Anggun 1. But i am darn wrong looking at the success. But so what, look at now, Anggun 1 able to fetch at RM 850K.

btw, are u styaing in anggun?

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QUOTE(smooth9 @ Aug 16 2012, 07:45 PM)
Yes, per bro Jason_chee, they are the original land owner keeping the land for like half a century, with another piece in Johor (now Setia Eco Gardens). They have SOLD the land for partial payment of RM200+Mil and/plus JV with SP Setia to develop Setia Eco Gardes in Johor, and did the same for the Guocoland JV, by sold the land for partial payment of RM??Mil, and/plus JV with Guocoland to develops Emerald East+West. They have kept land for their own Anggun developments, now the portion below Emerald West, all the way till behind caltex, even the land  above/on top of Emerald West (bigger land), is also their own land for future developments, some contractor that I have met for Anggun said there are more actually lol, not sure whether that is true on that part, but the one we are seeing now below Emerald for their Anggun is definately theirs, and the one undeveloped above Emerald West is also theirs.
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I believe they are a cash rich company, considering they sold both piece of land (for a lumsum), then JV for recurring income on both successful project before they start their own, even the AEON rawang developments is a turnkey project, where they build the whole shopping mall, and then sold it to AEON group, if my source is correct.
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Yes, I am staying in Anggun 1 for almost 2 years now, seeing more neighbours moving in every month. Staying here, I have noticed that the community living is quite good, without gate, the landscape, gated & guarded, is doing a big part. Without front gate and side fence at the front part, people are more inclined to meet up with neighbours during gardening, car washing, evening walking etc, and the part with landscape more people do evening walk, and hence closer relationship among neighbours, and neighbour's children, too. I have heard there are some Japanese and Chinese national family staying here too, and few doors away from my house, another Korean family is moving in too with their renovation almost completed, there will be more and more expats looking for a peaceful and secure environment when the Tenby International school is up.  icon_rolleyes.gif ..................  thumbup.gif
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from my source, they lease the land to AEON for 30 years. construction and development costs are from AEON themselves with reduced leasing amount over 30 years. not sure whether it's true or not.

good to hear you've been staying there since VP. i bought subsales last year (when AEON started construction) and i moved in last CNY. even though i pay 50% on top of the launching price, it was great environment there. i love the landscape and almost everything about the place. most importantly, my wife and kids like it. good to know you're neighbour.
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post Aug 17 2012, 01:57 PM

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QUOTE(cheahcw2003 @ Aug 17 2012, 01:02 PM)
Jason, mind to share what was the initial launching price directly from developer? For both Anggun1 and Anggun 2
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Anggun 1: Launching Price back in 2007.
32 X 75: Clustered Semi-D: RM 380K +- <-- if i can remember correctly.
35 X 75: Semi-D: RM 420K <-- 99% correct based on my memory. smile.gif
Bungalow: Price Vary and i don't know the price.

Anggun 2: Launched in 2009.
40 X 75: Semi-D: RM 595K. <-- if i remember correctly.

2012:
Anggun 1 - Clustered: RM 780K (asking price by most of the owner)
Anggun 1 - Non-Clustered: RM 850K (asking price by most of the owner)
Anggun 2 - RM 900K (asking price by most of the owner

you can check the price in iProperty
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post Aug 28 2012, 11:18 AM

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QUOTE(highcourt @ Aug 17 2012, 06:27 PM)
Are you sure Anggun 1 can fetch rm330psf to rm350psf? Don't you think it is overpriced for Rawang area? Some more no clubhouse and old design?
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old design? i think that's the modern design. i don't think it's overprice. even Kota Kemuning @ Palma semi-D is transacting more than 1Mill. distance to KLCC, similar to Rawang - KLCC.


Added on August 28, 2012, 11:20 am
QUOTE(smooth9 @ Aug 28 2012, 10:38 AM)
Hi Ironhide828,

The price for maintenance in Anggun 1 is RM180/mth, mainly for the guards and maintaining some common area that is not covered under mps, and for Anggun 2 I cannot remember, as we haven't started paying yet since it is not VP, I believe it is about the same price, perhaps some Anggun 2 buyer will be able to enlighten a little smile.gif
I think Anggun 3 semi-ds will definitely be RM1m+ as well, since they will have link houses too, we will see smile.gif
Hi freethinker123,
I am glad to hear that the information helps, and congrats for your investment into Anggun 2 smile.gif I believe the price of subsale for Anggun 2 will very much depends on the last 20+ units that hongbeeland is expected to release on next month, and also the price for Anggun 3 semi-ds, if the rumors that Anggun 2 remaining reserved units are sold at about RM900k and sold fast, with CCC and keys, Anggun 2 subsale shall be about RM1m I guess, or it will be close to the price of Anggun 3 Semi-ds which shall be RM1mil+. Last time when they first launched Anggun 2, Anggun 1 (although being smaller and slightly different setting) is transacting subsale at about the same price of Anggun 2, as the advantage is the buyer can move-in within months once they have completed renovation, which some buyer would prefer immediate keys. It shall be interesting in the coming months, we will see smile.gif

As for AEON Rawang, I believe the AEON themselves such as the supermarket, and FNB stores are doing well, but only selected retailers are doing well, but it shall ramp up when more people move in to this area, the road upgrade completed, and also when Anggun city is completed  icon_rolleyes.gif

The traffic at Batu Arang now is improving, but I would say it is inconsistent still as the road upgrade is in progress, since in recent months they often make new temporary roads and close existing roads etc to minimize the effect of the construction but there are still some effect I guess. If you are travelling in peak hour, there will be some traffic as we approach the toll for now, but for off-peak hour, there is almost no traffic. But, it will all change once the upgrade is completed, which the flyover and extension at the part close to toll shall be completed in the next few months, hopefully by end of the year  rclxms.gif
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i agreed with you that the price for anggun might surpass 1Mill marker. with commercial coming up, i think the price for anggun will boom up. btw, if not my mistake, Anggun 2 maintenance will be more than Anggun 1 due to Strata title. i estimate around RM 280 - RM 350.


Added on August 28, 2012, 11:22 am
QUOTE(takky @ Aug 28 2012, 10:48 AM)
hi smooth9, may i know when you sign the snp for the anggun2, is there any restriction on having pets like dogs? as i know one of my friend who purchased a gated n guarded landed house in penang, the snp clearly stated pets are not allowed.
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i don't think so. kindly check the DMC (Deed of Mutual Agreement) for more info. if they have restriction, it will be stated there.


Added on August 28, 2012, 11:48 amarghh.... HBL too smart to get hold of few units to sell upon completion. i was hunting like mad ppl for Anggun 2 last year and no-body wan to sell. i managed to contact a lady with offer 700K. the next day, she say 750K. then when i confirmed, she told me, husband say dun wanna sell already. ....... *big sweat*. now i wanna buy also cannot. hmm.... darn!

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post Sep 10 2012, 11:25 AM

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QUOTE(yschaw @ Sep 8 2012, 12:02 PM)
Any updates on d release of remaining Anggun 2 units?
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from my understanding, there are approximately 24 units from HBL. it will be treated like sub-sale cases. price not yet release. maybe starting from RM 880K. take note, MAYBE ONLY. smile.gif

my wife has the listing. we wanted to buy, but unfortunately, it's too expensive. monthyl repayment is up to 3.5K per month for 40 years. darn. have to shut-down my dream liao. smile.gif
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post Sep 10 2012, 04:40 PM

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QUOTE(takky @ Sep 10 2012, 03:18 PM)
Just wondering do HBL offer any rebate or early bird discount for those early purchasers when they were launching Anggun 1 and 2?
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i don't think so. if i remember correctly, no DIBS, no Loan and SnP absorb. right that time, max tenure is 30 years.


Added on September 10, 2012, 4:42 pm
QUOTE(Ironhide828 @ Sep 10 2012, 03:56 PM)
Ya, do agree with u. The price is really steep.
Unless the developer willing to earn less by setting the price lower than the market value.
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yea... but if everything goes well especially the new commercial, i believe the price will go up to >1Million.

i can't wait for the new commercial to complete. it's so easy. walking distance. smile.gif

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QUOTE(simple007 @ Sep 16 2012, 11:36 PM)
Thanks cheahcw2003

Since I have a couple of dogs, so Anggun is not for me due to Strata Title issue. At this point, EG looks like the best bet for me ..  and 2014 is perfect as well. Will decide in the next few days
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bro, you can choose Anggun 1 as Anggun 1 is Individual Title. smile.gif there are few units available in Anggun 1. Besides, in iproperty, there is 1 renovated corner unit of semi-D is up for sales. impressive and huge. cost 2.8 Million. maybe you can trade ur DPC and move to 2.8 Million. hehe.


Added on September 18, 2012, 11:58 am
QUOTE(masbruno @ Sep 17 2012, 12:11 AM)
Hi simple007,

Thanks for the explanation & highlighting about the doggy issue.
I guess I'd better check with the developer on the restriction on dog breed & size. I like huge dogs, so i foresee problem in Anggun2.
In my opinion, EG is ideal for dog enthusiasts because it's individual titled & has a huge public park located just in front.

I have the same good feeling too the first time I look at Anggun, EG & EW as a whole. Hope we are right.
Btw I'm a kampung boy too. So many kampung boys coming to KV to sapu properties, the city boys must be pissed big time.  biggrin.gif
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yea man... i'm pissed now. tongue.gif hehe.


Added on September 18, 2012, 12:02 pm
QUOTE(smooth9 @ Sep 17 2012, 11:31 PM)
same for BRDB high end development too, tentatively 2H13, IMHO they might both be waiting for the completion of the access road to launch their premium development, by 2h13 the flyover shall be completed already and perhaps part of the road expansion smile.gif
Congrats on your Amberley bro, sharing is caring as I read and learn a lot from fellow taiko and taije in the forum before I made the decision to buy my first house too few years back, I am glad those information is useful for anyone smile.gif I am just excited being an owner and to be frank I am quite surprise that I myself am still excited about this area after few years lol. rclxm9.gif I do not follow much on the subsale of Amberley, so I am unable to comment much on that sorry bro, but congrats on making the great decision  thumbup.gif

I truly believe we are merely starting to see great developments coming online, there are still so much developments in the pipeline or will be in the pipeline for this part of rawang, thanks to the masses of cheap undeveloped land in the past, as with those masses of undeveloped lands in the past plus the masses of reputable developers working strength with strength on their developments almost side by side, 25 minutes away from KLCC, made a perfect ingredient to pull out something huge and with great demands from families who appreciate living in a massive Gated and Guarded landed development that shall be complemented with beautiful landscape.

Just like Mont kiara has made the name for being the area with the most number of high end condos concentrated in the same area mainly developed by Sunrise, this part of Rawang will soon be the area with the most number of high end gated and guarded development in klang valley that will be jointly developed by so many reputable developers, each with a sizable land banks to pull out a major developments in their portfolio, sharing the same vision, and each having their own creativity, resources, followers on their developments. Due to the unfortunate security condition in our country, gated and guarded will be very sought after by families over at least over the next 1-2 decades IMO, and with more people buying and moving into this part of Rawang and for the gated and guarded developments, the are and its commercials will fly too!

Like what brother simple007 said, who is one of the earlier pioneer who made the brilliant decision on buying and staying in DPC years ago when so many people are criticizing about the DPC development at that time, he is seeing this part of Rawang like history replay of his experience on buying into desa park city at that time smile.gif I agree absolutely, and am looking forward for the future on this part of Rawang, a massive High-end Gated and Guarded Landed Developments is in the making, rclxm9.gif
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i would say history replay for Mutiara Damansara which fronting shopping complexes and commercial.

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QUOTE(lkh6269 @ Sep 21 2012, 11:30 AM)
Hello people,

I am new to this forum and pleased to find all the good people in this forum. I have 2 questions :

1. When is the VP for Anggun 2? I am interested to look at this property for own stay.
2. With all the prices of the existing and new development in this area, do you think it is still worthwhile to purchase? If the 24 units of Anggun 2 to be realeased by the developer going to cost $900k, do you all think that it will further appreciate considering the location?

Need all the advice by sifus.
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yes, i believe the price will go up somemore. If the government is taking a right move to curb global economy crisis, i believe Anggun 2 will surpass 1.1Million marker upon completion of Anggun City which is about 2 years time. that's my estimation and prediction. smile.gif


Added on September 24, 2012, 11:33 am
QUOTE(lkh6269 @ Sep 22 2012, 11:41 AM)
Thanks cheahcw2003.

I dropped by the sales office and they told me there are also some corner units available for sale but they do not have prices yet. Anyone know how much are they and how big are the land?

They also told me that the VP suppose to be during monncake festival in conjunction of the festival party. Betul kah, ni........
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they still keep the price with them. I estimate it could be 900K onwards. Corner would be somewhere around 1.2M.

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QUOTE(00013436 @ Sep 27 2012, 09:22 AM)
Hi, is there anyone know whether Rawang Anggun and Emerald area is connected with TMUnifi  infrastructure? I try to search from TM website but couldn't find it. I hope to unified my house before my move in next year smile.gif
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nope. i'm still waiting for it since... hmmm..... last year dec. smile.gif last update was in july 2012 where there is TM ppl call me. line still not available.
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yea... i went to Anggun 2 sales gallery today. they have 24 units for subsale. anything facing North cost RM 888K (intermediate unit) and facing south cost RM 903K (intermediate unit). all 888K unit taken and left few units. corner cost >1M. when i went there, i have the temptation to get 1 unit there. the environment is absolutely great. why they never open it for sale last year. smile.gif anyway, developer currently cover the cost of SNP, so, it's good news. in my opinion, RM 888K indeed worth it. my expectation: 1Million marker in 2 years time (with the condition, our economy still stand strong). btw, McDonald is going to complete realy soon. perhaps, before CNY? smile.gif
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QUOTE(00013436 @ Nov 9 2012, 05:41 PM)
yes, some owners already sold their unit, recently there is a transaction of 880K, which bank evaluation also giving fair price for loan. Hopefully when anggun city completed overall anggun house will be double up smile.gif
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double up? 1.2M? i project that price as well after completion of Anggun City. i do hope HBL could develop the surrounding of Anggun City on Commecial. That would definitely boost the Prop Value further.
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well said bro. +1 to you.
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QUOTE(YlangHouz @ Jul 22 2013, 09:42 PM)
How u guys think of the entrance rood of Anggun 3?! Would it be a headache if it need to make a U turn at the bandar country homes traffic light there all the time?!
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nope. you don't have to. smile.gif

if u know Exact Anggun 3 Location, it is being built on hill behind Caltex. At the Moment there is a road leading into Tmn Bayu Permai which is the Housing & Shoplot there. That road should be One-Way. But as u know Malaysia driver will ignore the signage. Thus, ppl will drive out from there as well. if that road is 1 way, no worry. There is a Junction (already open) at Tmn Bayu Permai. If you drive from Caltex to BCH, you will notice a big Junction on the Left which is next to Fishing Pond. I believe Anggun 3 might use that existing road.
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QUOTE(37 Exposures @ Jul 24 2013, 08:50 PM)
If budget around 500k, prefer near to AEON, can consider Emerald West subsale.
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if no mistake, if comparing distance between Anggun 3 and Emerald West Subsale (refering to Ivory / Garnet) with AEON ANggun, Anggun 3 is much nearer.
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QUOTE(MrHunter @ Jul 25 2013, 10:43 PM)
The launching of ag3 has been delayed so long till the facade looks outdated and interest from public also lari.
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Yes. They will delay the launching. They focusing in anggun2 vp and anggun city now. Besides, mr2 is , launched. If anggun 3 lajnch now, it will be direct competition and cannot squeeze the price. Also, when competition is there, the prop cannot sell like hot cake.
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QUOTE(CLOng @ Jul 29 2013, 12:05 PM)
The sales called me today again on the update of M residence supper link freehold.

22x80 build up 2300 sqft has increased price from Rm688K to Rm$708k indicatively. They have increased their prices 1 month after spoken to me. rclxub.gif
they said their new launching date will be in Sept/Oct.

M residence leasehold, 20x65 build up 1800sqft is selling at RM$488K now. I dont believe anggun 3 with land 22x75 build up about 2300sqft will sell at 500k. If they sell at S$600k i will be jumping in to buy. hopefully they will not increase price like mah sing.
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nope. i don't think they will price at 500K. perhaps "from 500K" will be possible if they launch in sept. but again, i think most likely will be 600K.
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QUOTE(smooth9 @ Jul 31 2013, 12:04 PM)
Hello all,

I have been missing the action of the board quite a bit, a lot of GREAT changes recently in Rawang, I have notice a development beside country homes wet market, an Econsave with some commercials such as spas rclxms.gif , and there are so MANY new intersections being constructed around Rawang, in the past, there is only 1x intersection Rawang NSE (in the middle of Rawang new developments), in the next 2 years, there will be another 5 intersection completing, to the north, south, east, west of the existing intersection linking NSE and Latar  drool.gif

I have updated the first page for recent developments, please let me know in case I have missed out any  icon_rolleyes.gif

Rawang will be the biggest mid-highend G&G enclave in Klang Valley, if not the entire Malaysia in the next few years, with at least 5000+ acres dedicated for G&G Homes, and supported by lots of commercials and infrastructure:

Developers in Rawang:
HondBeeland - AnGGun G&G residential and commercials: 500+ acres
Guocoland - Emerald West & East G&G residential and commercials: 800+ acres
Bandaraya - G&G link homes expected to be from RM700-800k, believer of la dolce vita, italian word for good life: 265 acres
Tan & Tan - "Dubbed "Sierramas 2" G&G per their circulation, rolling trees, massive G&G": 500 acres
Gamuda - Developer of Valencia/Jade Hill/Kota Kemuning planning their next G&G development, with a new direct NSE interchange in 2014 -724 acres
Mah Sing - M Residence 1 & 2 G&G residential and commercials: 380 acres
Glomac - Saujana Rawang: 345 acres
Lowyat - Puteri heights: unknown acres
AP Land/ Lowyat group - Bandar Tasik Puteri: 2670 acres of land.
DA Land -Lakeside parkhomes: 63 acres
Country Garden China - Country Garden Rawang, top 10 developer from china, developer of Danga Bay waterfront city Johor: 380 acres

Infrastructure
@Interchanges (1 interchange in the past and we will have 6 interchange North, South, East, West by end of 2015)
Rawang NSE Interchange (Existing, upcoming upgrading on the interchange)
Sungai Buaya (Rawang North) NSE Interchange (Completing 2014)
Rawang South NSE Interchange (Completing Aug 2014)
Rawang South Latar Interchange (Completing 2014)
Tasik Puteri (Rawang West) Latar Interchange (Completing 3Q2015)
Templer Park (Rawang East) Latar Interchange (Completed 2012)

@Upgrading works:
- Jalan Batu Arang Phase 1 in progress, phase 2 and phase 3 coming soon
- NSE 3 lanes to 4 lanes in progress, both direction from existing Rawang Interchange to KL+NKVE
- "T" Junction at the AEON/Anggun Junction to "+" Junction connecting Anggun 3 towards AEON

Commercials:
~ MCD Drive-thru (Completed)
~ AEON Rawang with TGV (Completed)

~ Anggun City commercial (Under Construction)
~ M Avenue (Under Construction)
~ Econsave beside Country homes Wet Market (Under Construction)
~ Platinum Industrial Park & The Two Wholesale City and commercials - By DA Land beside the rawang toll. (Under construction)

~ Bandar Country homes commercial (Completed in 1990s)
~ Revive and resale of Emerald Square commercial. (Facelift completed and relaunch)

~ Tenby International School @ Anggun (Upcoming)
~ Columbia Hospital @ Anggun (Upcoming)
~ The TWO Commercial - trade, wholesale, and outlet
~ Future commercial from almost every major developer: Hongbeeland, Guocoland, Mah Sing, BRDB, Tan & Tan, Gamuda is expected (Upcoming)
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+1. thanks for the info. indeed you've been out for a very long time. smile.gif i'm anticipating Anggun City.
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QUOTE(smooth9 @ Jul 31 2013, 10:29 PM)
siu tai just like to share details that I got icon_rolleyes.gif

aiya when I renovate my house last time, I actually employed individual contractors of their respective field, quite messy and tiring in the end, good price overall, but quality normal only  blush.gif 
Thanks bro jason, I am anticipating Anggun City as well, this area really need more banks, restaurants etc, and with that coming up, this area shall flies.
The commercial shall be the answer for the wellbeing of the increase population, and the increase population shall be the answer to the success of the commercials  icon_rolleyes.gif

Anggun City are progressing rapidly with like hundreds of workers on site everyday, it seems like 1 unit of 3 storey shoplot (behind AEON) is almost ready now, it should be the show unit for the Anggun City, the rest are still working at basement or ground level thumbup.gif
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yea... i also did that. i even go all the way down to batu caves and puchong to buy lightings and fans. then pay wireman to install. aircon also same thing. pay 1 of my neighbour to install. yes, everything looks normal which my wife complain cos she expect a very nice renovated house. this is the price we pay of Self-Manage VS Interior Designer. smile.gif

yes. i spotted 1 unit is almost done. besides, 1 also spotted land clearing on Anggun 3 site. it's visible from AEON and inside Anggun 1.
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QUOTE(cheahcw2003 @ Aug 18 2013, 04:32 PM)
The Anggun 3 site would be surrounded by low cost flat development. Many blocks some more as per master plan.

Anggun 2's occupancy rate also very low now bearing in mind  already vped for 1 year. Anggun 1 also take very long time to reach 50% occupancy rate.
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Bro, if i remember correctly, Anggun 2 VP couple of months ago. For Anggun 1, it is breakdown to 3 phase. therefore each phase VP time is different. smile.gif
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QUOTE(tengster @ Aug 18 2013, 04:38 PM)
Those superlink facing temple. I wonder who will buy that row....

Anggun 1&2 have low occupancy rate. Even Bandar Country Home occupancy is quite bad after so many years...
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BCH occupancy is good intially but due to the developer abandone the township + economy crisis in year 97/98, most ppl shift out from BCH. but BCH demand started to pick up now. Talking about occupancy, i think Saujana Rawang has lower occupancy. those earlier phase are mostly vacant. btw, Damai Residence @ Kemuning Utama also low occupancy now. but maybe it's breakdown to 4 phase. that's why the VP time is different. smile.gif

anggun 1 occupancy not low. estimated 70-80% now. Anggun 2 VPed not long ago. mostly under renovation now. will only know the occupancy given sometime.



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