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 Public Mutual v4, Public/PB series funds

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post Dec 18 2013, 12:26 PM

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QUOTE(williamlee_1985 @ Dec 18 2013, 12:15 PM)
so now if we withdraw epf money to invest in UT will get 25% tax eh? sob sob
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hmm.gif could NOT get this info from KWSP or LHDN website.
from which official portal did you get the info from?

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post Dec 18 2013, 06:36 PM

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QUOTE(Readable @ Dec 18 2013, 06:15 PM)
Is UT consider as private saving also?
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hmm.gif I would call UT as investment instead of saving

Differences Between Saving and Investing

Q: What are the differences between saving and investing?

A: Your "savings" are usually put into the safest places or products that allow you access to your money at any time. Examples include savings accounts, checking accounts, and Fixed deposit. At some banks your deposits may be insured by the PIDM. But there's a tradeoff for the security and ready availability of these savings methods: your money is paid a low wage (returns) as it works for you.

When you "invest," you have a greater chance of losing your money than when you "save." Unlike PIDM-insured deposits, the money you invest in bonds, unit trust funds, and other similar investments is not PIDM insured. You could lose your "principal," which is the amount you've invested. That’s true even if you purchase your investments through a bank. But when you invest, you also have the opportunity to earn more money than when you save. There is a tradeoff between the higher risk of investing and the potential for greater rewards.
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post Dec 18 2013, 06:54 PM

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QUOTE(Readable @ Dec 18 2013, 06:49 PM)
tq all the sifu advise, bcoz I hear sumbody say the 20% tax impose on the private saving is included the UT @@''

so is like GE/HLA/ Pru retire plan consider as private saving too?
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doh.gif pls read post # 2026
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post Dec 20 2013, 11:10 PM

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QUOTE(j.passing.by @ Dec 20 2013, 10:57 PM)
Makan bubur this year if depending on bond/sukuk fund to give returns. The income distributions by these funds will 'eat' into the principal amount (eg. its current value is less than its invested amount)... alright to those investors who need these annual distributions for "regular income", but to investors in the accumulation stage, it is advisable to hold more equities.

There is no guarantee in unit trusts even in bonds or sukuks. The closes thing to FD would be the money-market funds which is just below FD rate at about 2.8%.

A fixed income can also refer as any fund that has annual income distribution policy stated in its prospectus. A good example of a fixed income fund is Public Bond Fund, which is closed. Some equities, like PDSF, also has annual distribution policy.

The 'fixed income' refer by Xuzen in the Equity/Bond ratio would refer to money-market/bonds/sukuk funds... as these funds might not necessary provide a fixed stable income as it used to be (as proven in the sharp drop in bond funds recently) but will not drop much in value when compare to equity funds in an adverse market.

Try holding 100% in equities when you are already past the accumulation stage...
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rclxub.gif in the accumulation stage....(and) already past accumulation stage also more hold more equities? typo error?

This post has been edited by yklooi: Dec 20 2013, 11:15 PM
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post Dec 21 2013, 12:42 PM

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QUOTE(XtraLeoGecko @ Dec 21 2013, 11:51 AM)
Hi all sifu, I would like to diversify outside MY to hedge against devaluation of ringgit. Also, since v pay money to fund manager,  would like a fund which fund mgr could move around the funds to different sectors / regional / bonds / as appropriate.

Am thinking of Tactical Allocation Fund, kindly let me hv ur comments or other recommendations. ... thx in advance.
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does it suit your risk profile?
pro and con
http://www.publicmutual.com.my/LinkClick.a...GVo%3D&tabid=86
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post Dec 25 2013, 07:50 PM

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QUOTE(transit @ Dec 4 2013, 01:03 PM)
U need RM24,750 to get maximum SA premium at RM2,475 for RM500k coverage. RM500k SA is the maximum plan under AIA MLP2.
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just saw this in the application form.
RM 300K, RM 400K and RM 500k...is only applicable for applicants aged 50 and below at date of application.
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post Jan 11 2014, 06:56 PM

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QUOTE(frodo baggin @ Jan 11 2014, 02:10 AM)
Is there any place to make complaints on unethical agents that go around cheating those not well versed. I just came across a public mutual manager who guaranteed returns that were never made and only thought about his commission when giving advice.
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http://www.fimm.com.my/investor/how-to-lodge-a-complaint/

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post Jan 12 2014, 04:25 PM

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QUOTE(birdman13200 @ Jan 12 2014, 04:12 PM)
Yes, it is a good sharing.
This is what I do now:
1. When a fund reach certain percentage of earning, I will partial re-purchase it, to keep the profit.
2. I will continue to top up the under perform fund.
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means?
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post Jan 14 2014, 10:02 AM

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QUOTE(j.passing.by @ Jan 14 2014, 09:35 AM)
The End Game
.............I should and would be holding this portfolio of funds for another 2 or 3 decades after retirement. Till I die!
................The buy-and-hold portfolio is the end game.
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rclxms.gif wow, the UT companies will definitely LOVES you...
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post Jan 14 2014, 06:38 PM

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QUOTE(transit @ Jan 14 2014, 06:12 PM)
Free Listing for you to choose your 2 funds suitable your investment objective. Each of us has different risk appetite.
This listing perhaps may help to assist you. Best Luck rclxm9.gif

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hmm.gif helps needed here to analyse.
if comparing between funds of with the same benchmark,
the higher the value of
1) Fund Std Deviation,
2) Fund Sharpe Ratio,
3) R Square,
4) Beat

the better?
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QUOTE(jimmy.soo @ Jan 15 2014, 12:59 PM)
Is it good to hold all of them? I have not much to start off actually, holding more or less (which is better)?
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hmm.gif i guess you have to see if they are all invested in the same areas or sectors.
do you want to have over lapping coverage?

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post Jan 15 2014, 01:29 PM

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QUOTE(jimmy.soo @ Jan 15 2014, 01:14 PM)
What are the pros on having over lapping coverage? If + then + 2 times if - then it will - 2 times I guess?
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just like betting on the same horse....if all goes as planned,...then win big
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post Jan 16 2014, 01:02 PM

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where can i check the % of allocation for countries or sectors of PM Funds?
example...if i have the Public Regional Sector Fund (PRSEC) and i wanted to see the % of allocation to each region...where can i see that?
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post Jan 16 2014, 01:30 PM

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QUOTE(felixmask @ Jan 16 2014, 01:23 PM)
at their annual report from page 30 onwards.
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rclxms.gif thanks for the info.
was given the master prospectus by the UTC at tesco...and had been searching for required info.... rclxub.gif
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post Jan 16 2014, 03:46 PM

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Thank you, felix, j.passing.by and koinibler.
already copied and past the link to my portfolio file.
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post Jan 30 2014, 12:15 PM

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QUOTE(birdman13200 @ Jan 30 2014, 11:32 AM)
Hi lineage, below statement may not be correct.
During economic downturn, the unit trust may not give u positive return, see below performance of PDSF during year 2008. It is not something above 3%. U need to prepare urself for this before enter unit trust, else u will panic when see this type of negative return. It is easy to look back the history, but when u r in it, it is a different story.
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rclxms.gif well said. notworthy.gif
me too was shown by UTC about the returns of PDSF but minus the data of -30% as shown in yr provided chart.

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QUOTE(kabal82 @ Mar 9 2014, 10:31 AM)
my question is which is the best way for me to invest in PM equity?

Either I :-
1. sold off all my bond and parked my cash back into my PB account & from there DDI to equity. Or;
2. switch certain amount monthly from bond to equity.

Both ways will incurred sales charge fees, right? which is better method? 1 or 2? What's the reason for your choices? I need advice from experts here. thanks.
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hmm.gif what are all the pro's and con's of 1) & 2) that you think are available? is timing the consideration here?
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post Mar 10 2014, 03:19 PM

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QUOTE(kabal82 @ Mar 10 2014, 03:15 PM)
.....Now, dunno want to go for PRSF or PIDF...  rclxub.gif  rclxub.gif  rclxub.gif
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I think forummer Xuzen would have gone for.......refer to post #2228
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QUOTE(luminaryxi @ Mar 18 2014, 12:50 PM)
hi, ive about rm10k in saving, am thinkin of kenanga growth and rhb kidsave, how much money should i allocate for them?

do u guys recommend me to buy the ut thru fundsupermart or go to bank for their agent service?

lastly, my nett saving is about rm1.5k a month, should i add rm500 to each fund every month? or divest into another fund

Tips/advices are highly appreciated ! Thanks, terima kasih !
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Studies have shown that people who pen down their goals have a higher chance of achieving said goals as compared to people who don’t. It’s likely the same goes for investing; the unfortunate thing is that many tend to start investing without any objective in mind. If you know why you are investing, it will help you to formulate a clearer strategy and avoid unnecessary risks.
http://www.fool.sg/2014/03/17/why-its-impo...an-end-in-mind/

unknown about yr risk profile, financial savvyness, availability of emergency funds, liabilities, dependends etc, etc....cannot tell much

if you moved this RM 10k to investment do you still have enough for emergency funds, etc.

Kenanga is a M'sia focused Equities fund
Kidsave is a balanced fund (mainly in m'sia)
different risk profile....thus different returns expectation

FSM charges about 2% max SC...bank or agent maybe 5~6% SC....

RM 500 monthly to each fund / divert to others funds...what is yr risk profile? do you want country focused or a balanced portfolios of funds?

have you gone thru this?
http://www.fundsupermart.com.my/main/schoo...d.svdo?PageID=1

just a note...you have posted in a WRONG thread....this is Public Mutual thread doh.gif

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post Mar 21 2014, 05:04 PM

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QUOTE(wilson0416 @ Mar 21 2014, 05:01 PM)
The PDSF growing very slow... I invested from 2012 until 2014... got 5% per year only ==... epf is better la
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hmm.gif after minus the 5.5%SC?

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