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post Dec 3 2013, 11:10 PM

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Need help, want to ask:

What is the minimum mandatory holding in terms of Ringgit Malaysia in Pub-Mut unit trust funds to qualify to buy the Mutual life funds.

That is the only thing so far that is still worth to buy from Pub Mut Bhd.

Thanks.

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post Dec 4 2013, 10:44 AM

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QUOTE(wongmunkeong @ Dec 4 2013, 08:00 AM)
er.. just to clarify before responding:
U mean U want to buy the Group Life Term Insurance called "Mutual Life Plus 2", not funds right?
http://www.publicmutual.com.my/LinkClick.a...oXw%3d&tabid=69

and wanna know qualifying terms (ie. how much one needs to be invested VS how much of the insurance one can buy?)
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Yes, WMK, yes. This is exactly what I want to know.

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post Dec 4 2013, 10:51 AM

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QUOTE(Kaka23 @ Dec 4 2013, 01:07 AM)
bro.. thought you are pm agent?
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You've caught me...

I am a very inactive agent. Main purpose I signed up as agent to lower transaction cost. That was before the time of FSM or similar DIY type fund distributors were available.

If I count my number of active customers with me (mainly warm contacts), it is less than the total number of fingers I have.

Nowadays, it would be very silly to pay 5.5% sales charge anymore to buy unit trust. The only products I use to buy from them are the EPF investment at 3% sales charge. Nowadays, even 3% is expensive with the intro of zero charge PRS and 2% online charge from FSM and the like.

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post Dec 4 2013, 11:13 AM

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TQ WMK & Transit.
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post Dec 6 2013, 11:17 AM

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I will answer whether one should long on Commodities or not.

Before that, I want to highlight that bankers, traders point of view will greatly differ from individual investors. Their job is trading and to create alpha for their fund. They probably will not give good investment advise on personal investment matters.

Now, from a point of personal investing, you should look at your portfolio in totality. How much exposure to commodities does one have at the current moment?

If one has zero exposure, then it is good time to buy. I would advocate non-core investment or exotic/alternative or thematic to be around 5 to 10 percent of total portfolio, depending on risk profile.

If you already have 10% exposure to commodities, then one should not over-expose to exotics investment anymore.

Hence, when one ask should I buy this or that, the most logical answer is to look at your portfolio and then make the decision. The decision defers from one to another.

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post Dec 7 2013, 09:39 PM

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QUOTE(JinXXX @ Dec 6 2013, 09:54 PM)
so how to get that "perfect" balanced portfolia ? 1/2 equity ? 1/2 bond ?

1/3 equity 1/3 bond 1/3 balance ?

any advise on how to balance out the portfolia ?
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Usually 60% equities and 40% fixed income is a good start. Another method is to take your age and that should be the percentage of fixed income. So if you are 45 y/o, then it should be 45% in fixed income.

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QUOTE(leoyew @ Dec 7 2013, 06:43 PM)
but my sister buy the fund no earning 1 = =
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Didn't come to LY forum consult all the sifus, that is why lar....

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post Dec 10 2013, 11:37 PM

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In times of uncertainty, M'sia equities offer good beta. However, when market sentiment across Asia goes boom boom boom! other regional bourses will offer better alphas.

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post Dec 17 2013, 10:12 AM

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QUOTE(Clareen @ Dec 16 2013, 07:46 PM)
Just bought myself PISSF. any comment on this fund?
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Clareen,

F3ck PISSF, go dig on PISEF, de only winn4r in Pub-Mut's inventory.

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p/s: Even though PISEF is the alpha dog in Pub-Mut, but when compared to all the unit trust fund in Malaysia, PISEF is only like at the bottom rung of the top-ten.

Wanna invest with the taikoh? Check out Kenanga and Eastspring. The rest... "meh".

More rant against Pub-Mut (my fav whipping boy):

mad.gif vmad.gif Instead of spending money on paying commission to their agents and bringing them to conventions and trips here and there, Pub-Mut should spend more on hiring better quality fund managers and more money into buying quality research paper for better decision making. vmad.gif mad.gif

Clareen, just to disclaim myself: I am an ex-customer of Pub-Mut.

This post has been edited by xuzen: Dec 17 2013, 10:37 AM
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post Dec 21 2013, 02:21 PM

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QUOTE(nightzstar @ Dec 20 2013, 11:19 AM)
fixed income refer to those bonds? other than bonds what else is considered fixed income? thks in advance.
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In my context, fixed income = bonds/money market.

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QUOTE(XtraLeoGecko @ Dec 21 2013, 11:51 AM)
Hi all sifu, I would like to diversify outside MY to hedge against devaluation of ringgit. Also, since v pay money to fund manager,  would like a fund which fund mgr could move around the funds to different sectors / regional / bonds / as appropriate.

Am thinking of Tactical Allocation Fund, kindly let me hv ur comments or other recommendations. ... thx in advance.
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Easiest way is to go down to SG and buy global mutual fund there.

Or, get in contact with a Licensed Financial Planner and get them to open a global wrap account domiciled at one of those zero tax country like Cayman Island, Isle of Mann, Monaco. Minimum investment is RM 150K only cheap cheap nia.

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QUOTE(j.passing.by @ Jan 12 2014, 03:08 PM)
Cut Your Winners And Let The Losses Run.

That’s right, it's not a typo, and it’s the reverse of the usual ā€œcut the losses and let the profits runā€.

Unit trusts are long term investments while buying shares directly can be both long term and short. Another difference is that investments into unit trust funds are usually regular savings and savings for retirement purpose. So shouldn’t that the usual phrase within the stock market circle be reversed for long term mutual funds?

Think about it. It is more appropriate to let the losses run in a down trend, especially in the accumulation stage where you will be averaging down the unit price each time you buy.

Secondly, the losses should not be too unbearable if the portfolio has been adjusted to your appropriate risk profile, and would not be too steep if the portfolio is well diversified with each fund not more than 6% of the portfolio and distributed evenly among several different asset classes.

So, always let the losses run; and trim only the winners whenever necessary.

Cheers. And happy investing.

PS. Above is not an original thought. It is from a Paul Merriman article in MarketWatch.com. Sorry, lost the link to the article.
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The above statement is wrong and can be dangerous to newbie if they choose to believe it. Let me explain:

Unit trust like stocks has their parameters to measure their performance. I have written many times about the performance measurement of unit trust. The easiest to understand is Sharpe Ratio. Others such as Jessen-alpha, Sortino, Modigliani-Modigliani ratio and Treynor are more for advance investor.

If the unit trust is performing badly among peers, it is not wise to add your money into it; case in point: Public China Select Fund (PCSF).

Unit trust that are performing superbly above benchmark and creating ROI above that of peers, you should maintain it and only sell it if you need the money or to rebalance to maintain your desired portfolio ratio.

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post Jan 13 2014, 11:39 AM

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j.passing.by:

my personal investing criteria on a unit trust fund:

I) Must have track record (3 - 5 years data). Hence I don't go into new fund, no matter how wonderful the sales pitch.

II) DCA, no matter how low or high the "expert" think the market is, I will treat them as just noises. I will DCA to reduce my risk.

III) I will choose fund that has low sales charge and with the lowest annual expense available to me. (this is more of a want than a need, I am not so strict on this criteria)

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QUOTE(jimmy.soo @ Jan 14 2014, 05:54 PM)
yah but I only intend to put in 2 funds, which are the best to put them into (overall)?
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PISEF & PIDF.

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QUOTE(yklooi @ Jan 14 2014, 06:38 PM)
hmm.gif helps needed here to analyse.
if comparing between funds of with the same benchmark,
the higher the value of
1) Fund Std Deviation,
2) Fund Sharpe Ratio,
3) R Square,
4) Beat

the better?
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The higher the Sharpe the better. Sharpe is (ROI - Risk free rate)/Std-Dev

Std Dev is a measurement of how the daily NAV distribute around the mean of the fund over the study period time.

R-Sq is the relevancy of the linear regression. The closer it is to 1 means the more correlated the two parameters to each other. The closer to zero, means the variables have very little correlation to each other.

Beta is the relationship of the fund to its benchmark. If beta is 1.0, then the fund mirrors the volatility of benchmark. If beta is 0.5, then when benchmark increases 10%, the fund increases by 5%. If beta is -0.5, when benchmark increases 10%, the fund decreases 5%.

Now, you must be slapping yourself silly with regrets when you fall asleep during Add Maths class (esp the elective on Stats & Probability topics right?)

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post Jan 27 2014, 11:53 PM

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QUOTE(wongmunkeong @ Jan 14 2014, 11:53 AM)
Just ranting...

It's getting to the point where i'm heavily considering moving all my cash into local ETFs & overseas ETFs.
The bloody annual mgt fees % is a killer VS ETFs
AND
i don't get proper "asset allocation" as these mutual funds are usually not >80%+ in the equities VS ETFs
ie. in essence i may be holding more "cash" than the cash in my flexi mortgage account thanks to the cash held by these mutual funds". screws up my asset allocation.

FSM does help lower initial costs and i'm grateful.
However.. as things accumulate and one can transact cost-efficiently (ie. big enough purchases) for ETFs, the pain becomes more on the "yearly management fees"

As for EPF A/C1... aargh! *^%$!
Stuck between EPF, mutual funds and self-directed investments into KLSE which still have to pay mutual fund-like costs.
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Just be an UT agent lor... 1% sales charge instead of 3%, 0.25% annual management charge rebate as commission, which makes it 1.25%. Better than nothing lar....

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post Jan 29 2014, 10:47 AM

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WMK,

Wah... so detail, lu manyak senang type izzit?

I just take the published result at their FS and just know the average will do. I lazy to be so detail, as long as I am invested in the most efficient fund, I sleep well.

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QUOTE(takalimc @ Mar 6 2014, 11:32 AM)
Guys, whats your recommendation for the epf investment scheme?

There are 4 funds that just closed investment to epf.

How would you compare the PRSF and PSSF for epf?

Just for discussion what you guys think smile.gif
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PRSF > PSSF, but PISEF >>> all other Pub-Mut funds.

Listen to Xuzen, he is Pub-Mut expert (self-proclaimed).

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QUOTE(Lineage @ Mar 6 2014, 01:39 PM)
How about PDSF? my agent choose this for my epf investment schemeĀ  rclxub.gif
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PDSF < PRSF. Tell your agent F3ck-Off, listen to Xuzen.

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PRSF is benchmarked against KLCI-EMAS100. You asked the wrong question. You should ask, does KLCI-EMAS100 has room to grow or not? Fund price is easily manipulate and is not a good proxy to say whether the fund is cheap or not.

BTW, PISEF which is the best fund from Pub-Mut is ranked at a lowly No. 10 among all the M'sia equity. This is from Lipper rank which you can get from The Edge. Which is the best M'sia fund?

Of course it is non other than: Lee Sook Yee fund wub.gif

and another good alternative:

Chen Fan Fai fund.

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post Mar 9 2014, 12:44 PM

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QUOTE(takalimc @ Mar 9 2014, 09:31 AM)
@xuzen: thoughts on PFSF please thanks
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Answer you on Monday as my data and worksheets are in my office computer, not at home.

However, I do not recall it making into my shortlist.

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