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Theory/Lessons Q's on guitar strings, NPS, Stainless steel, Gauge, Fret wear..

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TSplankton
post Feb 3 2006, 04:10 PM

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going down to pyramid this sunday to buy a set of 10's smile.gif hope they have them though cos dont have transport to go other places smile.gif .. maybe ill give them a call 1st

ive been using Boomers, all this while, n now its time for a string change.. wanna try other types.

anyone know bout stainless steel strings causing faster fret wear? just curious..

tried ernie balll strings once.. but rusted to quick for me even with a string conditioner.. huhu.. must be my extra acidic sweat.

also tried those cheapo strings once, rm12, bought from kinta city shopping mall.. was ok 4 the price.
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post Feb 4 2006, 08:04 AM

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im not sure wat gauge my stock strings are but they are freakin hard to bend...fren uses 0.9 earnie balls..they sound sharper and are easy to bend n stuff...but yea..i would say dont buy those really unknown brand of strings...really sounds not rite...i forgot wat was tat unknown brand i bought ... it was a black packing..steel strings...the funny thing is the lower e string breaks damn easily..no idea y...

for string rusting prob..i wipe my guitar with a cloth after each time i play..i mean at the string area...the body i use a micro buffer...seem to work all these while ... same applies to classical guitar...use a cotton cloth

n my question..are all stock strings .10? sometimes it feels thicker..or harder..not sure wats the term.

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post Feb 4 2006, 12:45 PM

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erm, some guitars have diff gauges as stock, but usually its 0.09's..
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post Feb 7 2006, 12:37 AM

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Juz got myself a La'Bella string
cost me RM24.. kinda expensive anyway but too lazy to bargain with the lady boss..

It's a 9's one anyway.


Haven't tried this set of strings before.. that's why I buy it this time to give it a try.. hehe
Hopefully it is nice
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post Feb 7 2006, 03:13 AM

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Having tested many brands of strings, I will try to give an objective view.

Fender strings-The only one I like is the Nickel Wound series. Warm tone, decent lastability but it is also some of the highest tension strings around. Don't use it on a Floyd guitar though, it sounds dead. But for strats in general, this is a good choice.

Dean Markeley- I only tested the Blues Steels and it's nice. Warm fat tone and they really last. Only drawback is the very expensive price (RM28!!!)

Ernie Ball Slinkies- I have been a long time Ernie Ball user. I hate the sound (Ernie Balls are bright and thinny) but they last (as in they don't break too soon and the tone stays consistent for weeks), they are easy to bend, and you can find them almost everywhere. It is also some of the cheapest decent strings around.

Ernie Ball Rock N' Roll- I prefer this Ernie Ball strings instead. Warm fat tone, easy to bend, but they don't really last long(they break easily and the tone goes to hell in one week), they have limited gauge(no 10-52), and they are also alot more expensive that the Slinkies.

D'Addario- My all time favourite. Went back to this brand after avoiding it for a few years. It's weird, a few years ago, when I started using it, I love the tone, it's warm and full, the tone stays consistent, the string tension a little higher than Ernie Ball, and they last(they don't rust easily) but I kept on breaking strings. It is always the E and B strings. I thought I got a bad pack, so I replaced the whole set and the same thing happens. Either the B or E string will break within three days. Went back to Ernie Ball, and no more string breaking (at least not within three days)

But wait, last month, I couldn't find my usual Ernie Ball gauge(10-52) anywhere (Bentley told me I need to wait a few weeks for the next shipment). So out of desperation, I bought two packs of D'Addario 10-52 fully expecting them to break within three days. But no, fast forward to this month and I am still with the same pack. It's weird. I don't know what happen but I know I am back to D'Addario again. It helps that my usual gauge is two bucks cheaper than EB too.

Gibson brite wires- This is the worse strings ever. Feels horrible, they sound dead, and it is also expensive.

Godin strings- Repackaged D'Addarios, and Guitar Store have the nerve to sell them more expensive than D'Addarios. Whenever I point out that it's the same strings but why is the Godin more expensive, they always give me the stupid nervous smile and then silenced.

I will never buy stainless steel strings. They are more expensive, they do eat your frets faster, and only the wound strings are stainless steel. Ask yourself this question, how often do you see rusted standard wound strings? The answer is rare, unless of course you are those that change strings once a year which you should then quit playing as you have no appreciation for tone and playability at all.

As for the gauge, the general rule of thumb is the higher the gauge, the fatter, warmer, and tighter the sound.

If you want a fatter sound for riffs, 10-52 is a good start. 10-60 is overkill really, as your nut needs to be recut and you will twist your neck a little on the bass side.













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post Feb 7 2006, 07:28 AM

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Not interested in GHS Boomers??? Awsome sound..... a little bit hard to bend..... but playing riffs are freakin' awsome!
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post Feb 7 2006, 10:29 AM

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thnx 4 the info noisetrigger wink.gif will definitely avoid stainless steel from now on.
erm, is high tension = hard to bend sweat.gif ?
im going to try the fender strings on my strat .. but dun hv transport to go buy from bentley. gonna go n check taipan usj.
went to guitar collection sunway pyramid, but didnt have the strings i was looking 4. seems like their strings selection is quite limited..

wow blacktrix.. u sure wake up early eh smile.gif or is it u have classes in the morning wink.gif
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post Feb 7 2006, 12:01 PM

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post Feb 7 2006, 12:57 PM

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D'Angelico strings come fromteh same factory as D'addarios
they are exactly the same but at a cheaper price... you might wanna look into that if you're into D'addarios

im currently using EB .11s..... probably gonna take a step up soon
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post Feb 7 2006, 01:18 PM

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im using .10s slinkys....
maybe gonna use .11
used to .11 alr since i changed my small e string into a .11
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Ah crap.... looks like I have to make UserBars for strings now..... right??!!
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post Feb 7 2006, 06:51 PM

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woah..you guys really have string gauges that high eh notworthy.gif ? damn and im still struggling with .09s tongue.gif truthfully speaking, its not only the string gauges that causes a guitar to be harder to play generally...Putting a very high action will also cause tension on your fingers(i.e. bending a string seems a lot harder)....but then again, thicker strings add more of the effect laugh.gif .

ps:i found out that malmsteens gauges for the high e string is only .08!!!! he has a custom gauge, and the bass strings seem to be a bit thicker than average...and best part is his action is 6mm high! now thats plain crazy shocking.gif
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Yup, 0.8 gauge, high action, scalloped maple neck, spandex pants, spare tires arrr....you can smell Yngwie already. tongue.gif thumbup.gif Tho, with the size of his fingers, 13s shouldn't be much a problem for him, I guess. tongue.gif tongue.gif
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post Feb 7 2006, 09:49 PM

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not forgetting the spin-the-guitar-around-the-neck-im-so-cool move and ofcuz..... HIGH KICKS!
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lol.. dunno y i keep imagining him playing voodoo chile from the G3 vid when someone mentions his name..

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hahaha yeah man!! i tend to think about that too..and thats not a very good thing to think about aint it? laugh.gif yeah..i kind of thing he can actually....13's shouldnt be a prob at all with that action. lets see him bend or shred of mike mushoks string gauge tongue.gif
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post Feb 8 2006, 06:32 AM

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Juz changed my La'bella string to my Ibanez grg150
aikks but weird case is that... it keeps get out of tune automatically even if i nvr touch it.....
I don't know why
this nvr happens before... sweat.gif

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post Feb 8 2006, 06:58 AM

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aint new strings all like that?
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sean.. yes, all new strings require something like 30 minutes of intense playing and tuning before being absolutely "still".
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post Feb 8 2006, 08:29 AM

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when you install new strings you gotta stretch them fully and retune the guitar.....
then retune again the next day
or you can boil teh new strings in hot water before you install them in your guitar... ive nv personally tried that but my friend told me that it works

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