Why am I so anti "investors"?



I dunno bro.
Can I ask? Why some of you don't like me telling it as it is?
Should I dress up my opinions and make them sound good good so to please the "investors" here?

Asam laksa? yucks!
Smelly tofu? even more yuks!



I am starting to like fish head.

See? Preference. No right or wrong.

Fish heads, well can make u think better mah

Do not need to subscribe to the stereo type of " Big is always good " .

Well , how many still buy the big Axreit, and not the smaller brothers like IGB reits

Wow, DIGI could worth rm 500 if at rm one par value.

This post has been edited by SKY 1809: Aug 16 2012, 11:14 AM

lol and again, preference.

Yes, different preference. This solves and clears out the very core facts that I had just pointed. Problem solved. See? The world is now much better.

So how you answer the following simple question based on an imaginary stock? ( Would this be a good investing exercise? )

2011 EPS - 136 sen
2010 EPS - 106 sen
1Q EPS - 30 Sen

Estimate (Hope) dividend of 1.00.
Current dividend yield based on Estimate (Hope) dividend - 4.2%.

Great 'investing' idea?

Based on the numbers alone (which are all facts), would you really, really consider that as an investment?
If yes then would you buy more?
If you think not, then do you think other 'investors' will buy based on those numbers?

No you cannot answer by saying you already own this stock. (This is simple investing exercise so this option answer is not open. )

DIGI is big or small.

Worth rm 500 if par value is rm one. Bigger than Nestle

Small if at 1sen par

No such problem in Dow, cos no par value

This post has been edited by SKY 1809: Aug 16 2012, 11:11 AM

wah CSL still able to stay above IPO price, now at PE 6x. Please maintain above 5x for 1 year, then we got chance to see china companies re-rating.
but not yet reach the 6 months locked up yet right? does cSL got this thing too?

This post has been edited by yok70: Aug 16 2012, 11:12 AM

Die! I never once check the par value of a share before!

Well Both have PE of 30X + +

Nestle is really big in price , but Digi looks small.

Don't worry, no hard feelings. I was pretty sure I wasn't going to get a reply.

I feel that we have the difference between investing and trading is because many people treat investing as long term while trading as short term. But in fact that is not always the case. An investor might be able to sell off his holdings in short time, let say suddenly spike 100-200%, of course selling it and look for other opportunities. I doubt a stock after surging 100-200% would still be undervalue.


Anyway, I prefer abalone over fish head

Haha! Well put!

Reagrding the ACE fella. Yesterday I forgot to Q at 9 sen. Today, Q too big already. Maybe tomorrow. See nasib.

Just my opinion, nothing fancy here.
EPS is just one of the many important measurement to judge a stock, I think.
We also need to "feel“ the quality of the management, which is actually very important part for me.
Do they appreciate shareholders? Meaning, any corporate exercise(dividend, RI, BI, private placement etc) will concern on their existing shareholders first.
Do they have the ability to overcome tough period for the company to keep the damage as low as possible? (recent Japan's hit by Korean competitors, natural disasters etc)
Besides, I also look at their above performance for at least 5 years and above, not just 1 or 2 years.
And of course, the company business' present and future, definitely.
Anyway, this is just about my so called "fundamental stocks" judgement. I also got some other "punter stocks" in my portfolio too, such as DRBHCOM, since their past history sucks, but I'm betting on their future. Same goes to Perisai. These companies have major re-structuring, so need to bet on them or don't buy.

Just my view, don't eat me.

I bought some w at 9.5sen yesterday.

Not to miss opportunity if it really runs fast like Engine 0034

I like the TA reports put up at Bursa website, can take a relook.

This post has been edited by SKY 1809: Aug 16 2012, 11:32 AM

Me no buaya. I like fish head not man head. HAHA!

Thanks for taking the effort to answer.
I like your other questions that you have put. But for this simple exercise, try to answer it without these issues. Try to take it as an unknown stock.
Rational of the exercise is easy.
If you cannot put yourself as an investor and buy the stock based on a 'possible' 4.2% dividend yield then how do you expect OTHERS to invest in the stock? If no others invest, ie if no others buy/chase after the stock, then how would this stock going up in share price?
Are you willing to live and hope to prosper based on current dividends? Assume your cost is lower at 20, you are looking at just 5% yield.
Is this the best option for your money?
Earnings or EPS cannot be ignored. The chain of equation is simple, if earnings don't grow, where would you get money for future dividends?

Fish head sounding really good now... rainy morning.

Yes many thinks trading = contra trading.

a noob question here,

I already got a CDS account, and a brokerage account with HDBS

but I still dunno how to access the CDS account via online.. is there a way, where is the link?

31 sen!!!

Need to adjust my planning....

have to request ID from your remiser also wur...