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post Aug 6 2012, 05:19 PM

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1700 coming...124 thread also cannot fight the bull.... tongue.gif

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post Aug 6 2012, 10:02 PM

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QUOTE(Icehart @ Aug 6 2012, 09:47 PM)
Congrats to all Amedia holders. Very power. smile.gif
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It used to be digistar vs amedia. Now, winner is clear. biggrin.gif
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post Aug 6 2012, 10:35 PM

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food commodities price surge.
benefits which companies? any idea? notworthy.gif
i just know it's not good for food companies that relies on food commodities.
benefit plantations? but most IBs underweight CPO, only osk bullish on cpo. hmm.gif

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post Aug 6 2012, 11:18 PM

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QUOTE(CP88 @ Aug 6 2012, 10:43 PM)
How bout this to elephant gun? Dlady & Nestle.  brows.gif
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The increment of raw materials price may lower profit margin? hmm.gif

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post Aug 7 2012, 12:22 AM

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QUOTE(CP88 @ Aug 6 2012, 11:24 PM)
Passing the baton to the consumers?  hmm.gif  Milo was once RM 15 now doubled the price.  rolleyes.gif
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Passing cost to consumer takes at least few months time, at least 6 months I guess. Nestle able to report higher profit even when material price went up last year was because their revenue went up to cover the drop of profit margin. hmm.gif


Added on August 7, 2012, 12:24 am
QUOTE(yhtan @ Aug 6 2012, 11:37 PM)
corn price went up, is going to affect those poultry business sweat.gif
another wave of inflation is coming sweat.gif
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corn price up, QL also be affected. sweat.gif
we all can easily points out those got hurt by it, but hard to find those that could benefit from it? biggrin.gif

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post Aug 7 2012, 02:17 PM

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Oops! From the IGBReit's prospectus, the forecast FY13 DPU is 6.71 sen instead of moppy master's calculated 7.7 sen. So the yield is much lower than I thought. At 1.25, yield is only 5.37%.
I just removed all my buy queues since I were using 7.7 sen DPU on IGBReit to come out buying price for Kassets. sweat.gif

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QUOTE(StupidGuyPlayComp @ Aug 7 2012, 02:35 PM)
tongue.gif wow GAB up 60c already..............

Beer industry really performing good this year, as we predict since last year
gab in the sky, genting reflected the sky under the sea. biggrin.gif
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post Aug 7 2012, 02:47 PM

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alex said may fall back to 6.x tim! tongue.gif
he was using a 1994-2012 graph. i was wondering a company's performance won't change after 18 years?! does it make any sense to draw such line? just wondering. biggrin.gif

http://nexttrade.blogspot.com/2012/08/gent...ping-point.html


Added on August 7, 2012, 2:48 pm
QUOTE(cwhong @ Aug 7 2012, 02:47 PM)
PPB why everyday lower and lower ahhh? anyone following this?
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i do. And it seems never able to stop. maybe can wait below 10. biggrin.gif

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QUOTE(StupidGuyPlayComp @ Aug 7 2012, 02:53 PM)
laugh.gif Alex said will roller coaster down if genting break 8.80 support, good............

anyway, genting is luxury goreng counter, TA more than FA
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if CI want to go 1700, they have to push genting and his bro genm up.
if they want 1500, then can wait genting at 7.00 very nice. tongue.gif

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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Aug 7 2012, 02:59 PM)
I got 7.0% DPU based on my cost.  hmm.gif
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you early bird with moppy master mah! notworthy.gif
my abp only gives yield of 6.3% cry.gif
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QUOTE(StupidGuyPlayComp @ Aug 7 2012, 03:09 PM)
hmm.gif 6.3% not bad what............
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actually i'm happy with it lah. must thank pana and moppy master's recommendation. biggrin.gif
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post Aug 7 2012, 09:16 PM

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QUOTE(katesamsung @ Aug 7 2012, 03:20 PM)
For ur info

6.71 sen still better than Fixed Deposit

DUN forget Mid Valley is one the hottest retail mall in Malaysia

I think there are much room to growth

Pavillion when listed this year..0.88 sen..Yield also around 5-6%

Look at it now.....1.35..Just matter of months......Y?

It;s bcs Mid Valley and PAV are the hottest retail mall...traffic very high....there are room to growth

SO WATCH OUT - KASSETS
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Very difference case.
When Pavreit IPO at 0.88, DPU forecast is 5.8 sen, so yield is much higher at 6.6%.
Now IGBreit IPO at 1.25, DPU forecast is 6.7 sen, so yield is 5.36%.
The reit's upside from yield of 6.6% to 5.36% is 23%.
Therefore, Pavreit has at least a 23% price upside to reach 5.36% yield. Meaning, IGBreit's IPO price is 23% more expensive than Pavreit, assuming both of them are of equivalent high quality assets.
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QUOTE(davidcch07 @ Aug 7 2012, 09:24 PM)
so...conclusion got the IGB reit also not that happy? coz limited capital gain ?  hmm.gif
Ps:/ Personal felt is expensive for the IPO @ 1.25rm.... Those reits > CMMT/Sunreit/Pavreit also below 1rm.... only
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Ya, less capital gain. Don't think able to gain 30-40% within a year like the others. REIT has been hard sell by many IBs for too long, valuation already rich. Should have sai lang into it last year. cool2.gif
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post Aug 7 2012, 10:37 PM

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QUOTE(davidcch07 @ Aug 7 2012, 10:23 PM)
then we should look for BJASSET or KLCCP?  blush.gif

I go to dig my gf company see see tongue.gif  drool.gif
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which one she's with? time square or klcc? any insider info? TQ shoppers has been improving tremendously since past 2 years. Didn't expect VT also know how to do business, I thought he only know how to make money. notworthy.gif
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QUOTE(mopster @ Aug 7 2012, 11:00 PM)
now thinking whether to top up Kasset...  hmm.gif
calculating......
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At 9.00 of 1.25, yield at 5.36%.
The most it could go probably same as Pavreit's 4.9% yield? Which means about 9% capital gain possibility. Worth or not? See greedy or not loh. biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(sparc18 @ Aug 7 2012, 11:36 PM)
mind to enlighten me why it is not worth if the price for KASSET goes beyond RM9? sorry, beginner here smile.gif notworthy.gif  rclxub.gif
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Buying Kasset at 9.00 will give you IGBreit at 1.25. And IPO price for IGBreit is 1.25. smile.gif

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QUOTE(katesamsung @ Aug 7 2012, 11:50 PM)
Bro,

Assuming u r correct with calculation and the reit's upside from yield of 6.6% to 5.36% is 23%.

So 0.88* 1.23 = 1.0824 ...assuming both have them have same yield during IPO

But look at Pav Reits now, 1.36 today ...y?....it;s bcs it have room to growth and being one of the hottest Retail Malls in Malaysia

Worth or not ...u calculate urself
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You are correct. I'm just saying it's 23% more expensive than Pavreit. nod.gif

Besides, the recent Reit's bullish sentiment is also kind of relates with IGBreit's IPO. So after the IPO, will the sentiment neutralize and Reits price moderates a bit? We don't know, only market will know.
If market continues to appreciate Reit's nature, then current rich valuation may be able to maintain, then it's good news for us Reits holders. thumbup.gif
If market cool down by profit taking, then valuation may gets lower a little. But i'm fine with that, current rich valuation actually makes me a little uncomfortable and feel it may cool down after IGBreit's IPO. hmm.gif

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QUOTE(katesamsung @ Aug 8 2012, 12:17 AM)
As we hold for passive income, so no problem...

Im sure after if we hold a aleast 6 months from the listing....fruit will come.....
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Definitely. As for the purpose of passive income, I'm sure IGBreit is an excellent choice.
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QUOTE(cherroy @ Aug 9 2012, 10:13 AM)
1.50 is a bit too far stretch, I predict IPO opening price may be around 1.30.

1.50, means around 4.4% yield, which net yield become only 4%. A bit too low yield already. Little different than FD.

But DPU is expected to go up over the longer term, as rental revision increment may be strong for high traffic/popular mall.
As mall lease generally won't more than 1-2 years before there is rental revision. Correct me if I am wrong.
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Do you know the rental revision condition of Midvalley and Garden? Just read that 63% of Sunway Pyramid rental revision will be by Sept 2013, management expects a 4-5% upside. thumbup.gif

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QUOTE(katesamsung @ Aug 9 2012, 10:17 AM)
if like wat you say, u think KASSETS cant go above RM9

We c how this month.....

if open 1.30...translate to KASSETS RM9.25

KASSETS ----ROOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM
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Everyday saw your few posts about Kassets ROOOOOMMMMM up up up! But are you selling? If not, no use for Kassets to move up right? So you wanna sell? biggrin.gif

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