STOCK MARKET DISCUSSION V124, Seems like no one want this 124...
STOCK MARKET DISCUSSION V124, Seems like no one want this 124...
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Aug 6 2012, 05:19 PM
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1700 coming...124 thread also cannot fight the bull....
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Aug 6 2012, 10:02 PM
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Aug 6 2012, 10:35 PM
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food commodities price surge.
benefits which companies? any idea? i just know it's not good for food companies that relies on food commodities. benefit plantations? but most IBs underweight CPO, only osk bullish on cpo. |
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Aug 6 2012, 11:18 PM
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Aug 7 2012, 12:22 AM
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QUOTE(CP88 @ Aug 6 2012, 11:24 PM) Passing cost to consumer takes at least few months time, at least 6 months I guess. Nestle able to report higher profit even when material price went up last year was because their revenue went up to cover the drop of profit margin. Added on August 7, 2012, 12:24 am QUOTE(yhtan @ Aug 6 2012, 11:37 PM) corn price up, QL also be affected. we all can easily points out those got hurt by it, but hard to find those that could benefit from it? This post has been edited by yok70: Aug 7 2012, 12:24 AM |
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Aug 7 2012, 02:17 PM
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Oops! From the IGBReit's prospectus, the forecast FY13 DPU is 6.71 sen instead of moppy master's calculated 7.7 sen. So the yield is much lower than I thought. At 1.25, yield is only 5.37%.
I just removed all my buy queues since I were using 7.7 sen DPU on IGBReit to come out buying price for Kassets. This post has been edited by yok70: Aug 7 2012, 02:18 PM |
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Aug 7 2012, 02:38 PM
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QUOTE(StupidGuyPlayComp @ Aug 7 2012, 02:35 PM) Beer industry really performing good this year, as we predict since last year |
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Aug 7 2012, 02:47 PM
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alex said may fall back to 6.x tim!
he was using a 1994-2012 graph. i was wondering a company's performance won't change after 18 years?! does it make any sense to draw such line? just wondering. http://nexttrade.blogspot.com/2012/08/gent...ping-point.html Added on August 7, 2012, 2:48 pm QUOTE(cwhong @ Aug 7 2012, 02:47 PM) i do. And it seems never able to stop. maybe can wait below 10. This post has been edited by yok70: Aug 7 2012, 02:48 PM |
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Aug 7 2012, 02:57 PM
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QUOTE(StupidGuyPlayComp @ Aug 7 2012, 02:53 PM) anyway, genting is luxury goreng counter, TA more than FA if they want 1500, then can wait genting at 7.00 very nice. This post has been edited by yok70: Aug 7 2012, 02:58 PM |
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Aug 7 2012, 03:02 PM
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Aug 7 2012, 03:16 PM
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Aug 7 2012, 09:16 PM
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QUOTE(katesamsung @ Aug 7 2012, 03:20 PM) For ur info Very difference case.6.71 sen still better than Fixed Deposit DUN forget Mid Valley is one the hottest retail mall in Malaysia I think there are much room to growth Pavillion when listed this year..0.88 sen..Yield also around 5-6% Look at it now.....1.35..Just matter of months......Y? It;s bcs Mid Valley and PAV are the hottest retail mall...traffic very high....there are room to growth SO WATCH OUT - KASSETS When Pavreit IPO at 0.88, DPU forecast is 5.8 sen, so yield is much higher at 6.6%. Now IGBreit IPO at 1.25, DPU forecast is 6.7 sen, so yield is 5.36%. The reit's upside from yield of 6.6% to 5.36% is 23%. Therefore, Pavreit has at least a 23% price upside to reach 5.36% yield. Meaning, IGBreit's IPO price is 23% more expensive than Pavreit, assuming both of them are of equivalent high quality assets. |
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Aug 7 2012, 10:13 PM
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QUOTE(davidcch07 @ Aug 7 2012, 09:24 PM) so...conclusion got the IGB reit also not that happy? coz limited capital gain ? Ya, less capital gain. Don't think able to gain 30-40% within a year like the others. REIT has been hard sell by many IBs for too long, valuation already rich. Should have sai lang into it last year. Ps:/ Personal felt is expensive for the IPO @ 1.25rm.... Those reits > CMMT/Sunreit/Pavreit also below 1rm.... only |
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Aug 7 2012, 10:37 PM
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QUOTE(davidcch07 @ Aug 7 2012, 10:23 PM) which one she's with? time square or klcc? any insider info? TQ shoppers has been improving tremendously since past 2 years. Didn't expect VT also know how to do business, I thought he only know how to make money. |
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Aug 7 2012, 11:49 PM
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Aug 7 2012, 11:52 PM
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Aug 8 2012, 12:12 AM
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QUOTE(katesamsung @ Aug 7 2012, 11:50 PM) Bro, You are correct. I'm just saying it's 23% more expensive than Pavreit. Assuming u r correct with calculation and the reit's upside from yield of 6.6% to 5.36% is 23%. So 0.88* 1.23 = 1.0824 ...assuming both have them have same yield during IPO But look at Pav Reits now, 1.36 today ...y?....it;s bcs it have room to growth and being one of the hottest Retail Malls in Malaysia Worth or not ...u calculate urself Besides, the recent Reit's bullish sentiment is also kind of relates with IGBreit's IPO. So after the IPO, will the sentiment neutralize and Reits price moderates a bit? We don't know, only market will know. If market continues to appreciate Reit's nature, then current rich valuation may be able to maintain, then it's good news for us Reits holders. If market cool down by profit taking, then valuation may gets lower a little. But i'm fine with that, current rich valuation actually makes me a little uncomfortable and feel it may cool down after IGBreit's IPO. |
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Aug 8 2012, 12:52 AM
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Aug 9 2012, 10:19 AM
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QUOTE(cherroy @ Aug 9 2012, 10:13 AM) 1.50 is a bit too far stretch, I predict IPO opening price may be around 1.30. Do you know the rental revision condition of Midvalley and Garden? Just read that 63% of Sunway Pyramid rental revision will be by Sept 2013, management expects a 4-5% upside. 1.50, means around 4.4% yield, which net yield become only 4%. A bit too low yield already. Little different than FD. But DPU is expected to go up over the longer term, as rental revision increment may be strong for high traffic/popular mall. As mall lease generally won't more than 1-2 years before there is rental revision. Correct me if I am wrong. |
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Aug 9 2012, 10:21 AM
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QUOTE(katesamsung @ Aug 9 2012, 10:17 AM) if like wat you say, u think KASSETS cant go above RM9 Everyday saw your few posts about Kassets ROOOOOMMMMM up up up! But are you selling? If not, no use for Kassets to move up right? So you wanna sell? We c how this month..... if open 1.30...translate to KASSETS RM9.25 KASSETS ----ROOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM This post has been edited by yok70: Aug 9 2012, 10:21 AM |
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