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nubJeff
post Sep 3 2013, 07:43 PM

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QUOTE(fruitie @ Sep 3 2013, 06:18 PM)
You do know there are many factors to affect your salary range. Let me just name a few:
1) Your strengths that distinguish between you an others
2) Your current pay
3) Your job
4) Your company
5) Your industry
6) Your experience
7) Your qualification

Those things I mentioned above are not in sequence, so point 7 doesn't mean it is not important.
Plus, you are still young, career advancement is what you should prioritize and not salary though it is important. If not, when you are in 30s, you will suffer and lose out in competition.

I'm 27 this year and I have gone through what you are going through now, I'm still sticking to my current company that I joined since internship as it gives me very wide exposure and I think I'm earning quite good for my age (the amount you "dreamt of"). You (and others) may not agree with me, but I don't believe in frequent job hopping in early working years.

Well, that's just my point of view. smile.gif
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Haha, I see.but for your age with my dream salary..it's normal for me, cause I had seen a lot of them are in the salary range.. biggrin.gif
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post Sep 3 2013, 10:50 PM

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QUOTE(nubJeff @ Sep 3 2013, 07:43 PM)
Haha, I see.but for your age with my dream salary..it's normal for me, cause I had seen a lot of them are in the salary range.. biggrin.gif
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We shall see when your time comes but with the current inflation, nothing is impossible. rolleyes.gif
What is worth 6k today is not what it is in 1 year time. rolleyes.gif
That time you will ask for more. What is the limit? Sky is the limit. whistling.gif laugh.gif

Yeah don't get me wrong, I was not saying I'm earning a lot. That's not my point la, to me career advancement is more important. You need to understand, I have not jumped a single company before and every year I get 20-25% increment, which is something I appreciate a lot. Though that was last time, now hardly get that much anymore. cry.gif

FYI, I'm a HR person and HR doesn't earn as much as engineers, sales persons (for e.g.). If comparison is really necessary, it has to be apple to apple, orange to orange.
If you have friends from HR field and if they are still in junior roles, you will know how pathetic the salary is. sad.gif

This post has been edited by fruitie: Sep 3 2013, 11:04 PM
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post Sep 4 2013, 12:01 AM

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QUOTE(fruitie @ Sep 3 2013, 10:50 PM)
We shall see when your time comes but with the current inflation, nothing is impossible. rolleyes.gif
What is worth 6k today is not what it is in 1 year time. rolleyes.gif
That time you will ask for more. What is the limit? Sky is the limit. whistling.gif laugh.gif

Yeah don't get me wrong, I was not saying I'm earning a lot. That's not my point la, to me career advancement is more important. You need to understand, I have not jumped a single company before and every year I get 20-25% increment, which is something I appreciate a lot. Though that was last time, now hardly get that much anymore. cry.gif

FYI, I'm a HR person and HR doesn't earn as much as engineers, sales persons (for e.g.). If comparison is really necessary, it has to be apple to apple, orange to orange.
If you have friends from HR field and if they are still in junior roles, you will know how pathetic the salary is. sad.gif
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Lol, I understand for a HR salary..I got 1 friend in IBM HR salary like RM 2.4k only which is 24 years old now, hehe..

Anyway, actually I aim for salary is depends on my age for any jobs? Because this easier to match or meet my goals in future smile.gif
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post Sep 4 2013, 12:10 AM

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QUOTE(nubJeff @ Sep 4 2013, 12:01 AM)
Lol, I understand for a HR salary..I got 1 friend in IBM HR salary like RM 2.4k only which is 24 years old now, hehe..

Anyway, actually I aim for salary is depends on my age for any jobs? Because this easier to match or meet my goals in futureĀ  smile.gif
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HR salary only climbs after 3-4th year onwards. smile.gif Can easily go more than 10k as it progresses.

You are still very new to working world, so it is normal for you to feel clueless now.
Just work hard and find your passion. Passion makes things easier. smile.gif

I love my current job, it gives me so much of exposure. smile.gif
This year I'm given with few overseas assignments opportunities and I must admit I learn a lot. smile.gif
Next week I'll be flying to Myanmar for recruitment, after that to Beijing for training and probably to Sydney for on-ground operations support. smile.gif

So, just enjoy and learn from your current job! All the best. smile.gif

Anyway, Mgmt Trainee is a good program as you get to learn a lot.
Although I must say this, 3k for a Mgmt Trainee in banking line is very little. smile.gif
My friend was a mgmt trainee for one of the overseas banks in Malaysia and she was getting more than RM 4k as the start, that was 2 years ago.
Besides during her mgmt training, she was sent to UK and HK for trainings, stayed there for nearly a month every time. smile.gif
But again, be contented with what you have. smile.gif

This post has been edited by fruitie: Sep 4 2013, 12:17 AM
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post Sep 4 2013, 12:20 AM

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QUOTE(fruitie @ Sep 4 2013, 12:10 AM)
HR salary only climbs after 3-4th year onwards. smile.gif Can easily go more than 10k as it progresses.

You are still very new to working world, so it is normal for you to feel clueless now.
Just work hard and find your passion. Passion makes things easier. smile.gif

I love my current job, it gives me so much of exposure. smile.gif
This year I'm given with few overseas assignments opportunities and I must admit I learn a lot. smile.gif
Next week I'll be flying to Myanmar for recruitment, after that to Beijing for training and probably to Sydney for on-ground operations support. smile.gif

So, just enjoy and learn from your current job! All the best. smile.gif

Anyway, Mgmt Trainee is a good program as you get to learn a lot.
Although I must say this, 3k for a Mgmt Trainee in banking line is very little. smile.gif
My friend was a mgmt trainee for one of the overseas banks in Malaysia and she was getting more than RM 4k as the start, that was 2 years ago.
Besides during her mgmt training, she was sent to UK and HK for trainings, stayed there for nearly a month every time. smile.gif
But again, be contented with what you have. smile.gif
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Wahhh...4k paid management trainee, btw which bank offering that? Anyway, some might have depends on the offer letter. For eg,tie with contract or free.

The best things for HR as my personal opinion, I guess it's recruitment time...kinda fun and enjoy especially during oversea recruitment, free travel.

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post Sep 4 2013, 12:25 AM

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QUOTE(nubJeff @ Sep 4 2013, 12:20 AM)
Wahhh...4k paid management trainee, btw which bank offering that? Anyway, some might have depends on the offer letter. For eg,tie with contract or free.

The best things for HR as my personal opinion, I guess it's recruitment time...kinda fun and enjoy especially during oversea recruitment, free travel.
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More than 4k actually. Of course I can't share which bank is that. I have two friends who were their management trainee, both doing very well now. smile.gif

I don't usually do recruitment because company doesn't have active recruitment, we don't go out to source for people most of the time, just headhunter or internal transfer. But this time, a bit unique, so we were asked to fly into Yangon to support a mass recruitment.
I'm more on operations side, but my boss proposed me to give a lending hand to the HR business partner group. smile.gif

You just joined less than a month, yet start to think of so many things.
Still fresh to the company, be a sponge and absorb as much as you can.

This post has been edited by fruitie: Sep 4 2013, 12:27 AM
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post Sep 4 2013, 02:12 AM

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Job Title : Consultant
Age: 26
Years spent in company : Starting in December
Company: MNC
Location : KL
Industry : Telco
Tenure : Permanent
Experience before joining : 3.5 years in the same industry
Current basic : RM10k + allowances (up to RM3k claims if traveling)
Education level : Degree
Benefits : Bonus about 1 month (?)
Working hours : 9am til late. Probably weekends too

What would be the logical pay scale on the next step 2-5 years down the road?

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post Sep 4 2013, 08:31 AM

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QUOTE(elpis @ Sep 4 2013, 02:12 AM)
Just landed a new offer

Job Title : Consultant
Age: 26
Years spent in company : Starting in December
Company: MNC
Location : KL
Industry : Telco
Tenure : Permanent
Experience before joining : 3.5 years in the same industry
Current basic : RM10k + allowances (up to RM3k claims if traveling)
Education level : Degree
Benefits : Bonus about 1 month (?)
Working hours : 9am til late. Probably weekends too

What would be the logical pay scale on the next step 2-5 years down the road?
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congrats bro!
may i know which department youre in? 10k is very high for your age! however the working hours dont seem to be good
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post Sep 4 2013, 11:09 AM

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QUOTE(larrytty @ Sep 4 2013, 08:31 AM)
congrats bro!
may i know which department youre in? 10k is very high for your age! however the working hours dont seem to be good
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I'm parked under the consulting division. Working hours personally dont bother me that much as long as I still get to learn and grow.
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post Sep 4 2013, 02:22 PM

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QUOTE(elpis @ Sep 4 2013, 11:09 AM)
I'm parked under the consulting division. Working hours personally dont bother me that much as long as I still get to learn and grow.
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Accenture?
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post Sep 4 2013, 02:28 PM

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QUOTE(Currylaksa @ Sep 4 2013, 02:22 PM)
Accenture?
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Lol not ACN tongue.gif
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post Sep 4 2013, 05:22 PM

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QUOTE(elpis @ Sep 4 2013, 02:28 PM)
Lol not ACN  tongue.gif
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4+&+?
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post Sep 4 2013, 05:51 PM

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QUOTE(JungWoo @ Sep 4 2013, 05:22 PM)
4+&+?
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AT&T pay very well no doubt. I know people over there in their senior management team who get paid upwards in the range of 20k
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post Sep 4 2013, 06:20 PM

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QUOTE(elpis @ Sep 4 2013, 05:51 PM)
AT&T pay very well no doubt. I know people over there in their senior management team who get paid upwards in the range of 20k
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I think this range is common in senior management position for most big companies. I know people in my company senior management team who get paid 50k monthly.
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post Sep 4 2013, 10:47 PM

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QUOTE(elpis @ Sep 4 2013, 02:12 AM)
Just landed a new offer

Job Title : Consultant
Age: 26
Years spent in company : Starting in December
Company: MNC
Location : KL
Industry : Telco
Tenure : Permanent
Experience before joining : 3.5 years in the same industry
Current basic : RM10k + allowances (up to RM3k claims if traveling)
Education level : Degree
Benefits : Bonus about 1 month (?)
Working hours : 9am til late. Probably weekends too

What would be the logical pay scale on the next step 2-5 years down the road?
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On your age have 10k it's pretty good...btw, I'm new in career..what usually you do as a consultant? Consult in business? lol.
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post Sep 5 2013, 07:52 AM

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QUOTE(elpis @ Sep 4 2013, 05:51 PM)
AT&T pay very well no doubt. I know people over there in their senior management team who get paid upwards in the range of 20k
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looks like i have one more organization in my hop list biggrin.gif
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post Sep 5 2013, 10:40 AM

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QUOTE(nubJeff @ Sep 4 2013, 12:20 AM)
Wahhh...4k paid management trainee, btw which bank offering that? Anyway, some might have depends on the offer letter. For eg,tie with contract or free.

The best things for HR as my personal opinion, I guess it's recruitment time...kinda fun and enjoy especially during oversea recruitment, free travel.
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if i rmb correctly Maybank did paid that much for management trainee

i might be wrong tot
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post Sep 5 2013, 10:55 AM

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QUOTE(JungWoo @ Sep 5 2013, 07:52 AM)
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looks like i have one more organization in my hop list  biggrin.gif
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You're also in the telco industry I guess?
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post Sep 5 2013, 02:09 PM

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Job Title : Audit Associate
Job Desciption : Audit
Years spent in company : 2 months
Company : Big 4 based in Penang.
Tenure : permanent
Employment Level : Audit Junior
Experience before joining : 0 (fresh grad with ACCA qualification)
salary : RM 2.5k

Am i being underpaid?
Additionally, I would like to ask, how much salary could a chartered accountant with ACCA and 3 years working experience in Big 4's firm fetch in MNC? (just for my reference)

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post Sep 5 2013, 06:16 PM

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QUOTE(elpis @ Sep 5 2013, 10:55 AM)
You're also in the telco industry I guess?
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nope, currently in IT but interested with networking.

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