The real problem is when u start to talk bad and dont accept people who rejected your business proposal. They are very sensitive if you say no, and ditching your friends for those new "business" partners. It is proven all over that MLM destroy friendships and even break family apart. Are you seriously willing to go to that extend?
The speakers talk shit and try to brainwash everyone during the event, how can you say things like "this is your parents fault"? And you people are very proud when you say "i fire my boss", and those monkeys started cheering at everything.
Did you a BMW 3series from them already? Or maybe you are the so called Prince Chia? 😁

The message I want to deliver is the same thing as your last sentence, " there must be pros and cons for everything, no perfect one".

Every business model has its advantages and disadvantages.

Advantages of MLM is that it is a simple and direct, anyone can do it without requiring any specific expertise knowledge or PhD/Degree/Masters to achieve success and earn profit.

Disadvantages is that not everyone accepts this business model because of the term "direct selling and recruitment". When in actual this is the nature and how the business model works, through network distribution. And another is due to bad experience and online negative reviews.

In fact, you can see many companies in the USA adopts network marketing because it is the best way to create profit exponentially and also makes everyone profit instead of a single way buyer-seller relationship.

Whereas scam such as money game, adopts a similar and much confused business model with network marketing which is the piramid/ponzi scheme.

Who started talking bad about you when you reject them ?
Look who is coming online to talk bad not towards an individual person, but attacking an entire organization based an your personal opinion and assumption ?

I can see emotion > intelligence here. Too many assumptions being made in your statement.

Spreading negativity all over the place is a contagious disease.

MLM is not a workable business model proven over and over again not only in public spaces, but in academic research. You're still quoting the same rubbish MLMs claimed 10 years ago. Cite your sources and we shall see. The business model of today is called a.k.a. alibaba.com and trumps MLM or any historical marketing model in every aspect imaginable - and obviously without doubt - it is the largest and most successful emergent business model today. Try going up against the world server networks vs your marketing efforts.

There is no need for people to accept this business model because it doesnt work - and most are scams anyway either in model or products claims since their products can't match anything on the market costing less without BS claims. Jack Ma didn't get alibaba through in the 90s, but because the model works, a decade or two later their approach broke resistance it is now ahead of the rest. Havent seen that from MLM since 1960. And 10% Amway distributors in year 200x make profit. Great model.

Here's an 'unreliable' source for reference - still more reliable data and references than any MLM business. Either way the market will decide for itself
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multi-level_marketing

Organisation of topic is bad and as many contributors here have pointed out - is clearly a scam - so aint gonna give it any credit whatsover.

Products are dubious, overpriced and a website so atrocious that looks like it was made by a 12 year old. +Shitty English. I could hire budak kampung to do that Engrish for this world master business conglomerate what?. Nasdaq my ass - but sad to say this is the average education level of Malaysians anyway. They deserve to get conned after all.

Btw I can introduce a new product that everyone must have - McButt works by auto polishing one's own but for greater improved day to day satisfaction for health and life benefits which will attract the positive energy of the universe, which then make you attract money make you rich in 10 years. Wait... MLM mantra is 2 years - sorry.. My butt polish not that lihai yet.

Who started talking bad about you when you reject them ?
Look who is coming online to talk bad not towards an individual person, but attacking an entire organization based an your personal opinion and assumption ?

I can see emotion > intelligence here. Too many assumptions being made in your statement.

Spreading negativity all over the place is a contagious disease.

Cmon who else if its not my friend who tried to pursued me in joining, and she wasn't that cold hearted person who would say all those shitty things to you. It was after she met this group of people, all because she was told to stay away from negative people (and this negative people are those friends that are trying to drag them out of this scam hole).

Tell me something, why did mcocean decided to change their name after it was blacklisted by BNM a few years back?
Iv watched the video on youtube where that KPDNKK Dato launched the opening at southgate, and don't you think he look so scripted and fake there? Maybe ada duit masuk pocket? He can't even pronounce Mc ocean, instead of M ocean

Cmon who else if its not my friend who tried to pursued me in joining, and she wasn't that cold hearted person who would say all those shitty things to you. It was after she met this group of people, all because she was told to stay away from negative people (and this negative people are those friends that are trying to drag them out of this scam hole).

Tell me something, why did mcocean decided to change their name after it was blacklisted by BNM a few years back?
Iv watched the video on youtube where that KPDNKK Dato launched the opening at southgate, and don't you think he look so scripted and fake there? Maybe ada duit masuk pocket? He can't even pronounce Mc ocean, instead of M ocean

Wow, interesting topic you guys have here since 2012. but by reading it all just wondering is McOcean the company is a scam or the people in the company are scamming? Just wondering.... Got to know about this company through strangers approaching me out of no where. hahahahaha

Strangers approached u? sounds interesting.
i thought they will not simply introduce to people unless you passed their so called interview session stage 1.
LOLZ

Again, thats your friends problem not the organization ?

Cold hearted person who would say shitty things to you, do you agree with what she said ? The shitty things your friend mentioned is true ? If yes, then she is trying to wake you up from the shit hole you're in. If no, then you can ask her to keep quiet because she is not telling the facts.

Please call to ask KPDNKK for more details. Going back to the same topic again, BNM is not the right authorities to check for business license and namings etc.

Well, the person slipped it out. Maybe is a newbie i dont know. when I look for the company in google (tried damn hard to get the spellings correct   ) and came across this. even spent time looking through their profiles with SSM. Apparently the have their account audited as well. but now hesitating should I proceed since some of you all mentioned is a scam but at the same time it seems like the people that you guys encountered scam you guys instead of the company. hmmmm

Well, the person slipped it out. Maybe is a newbie i dont know. when I look for the company in google (tried damn hard to get the spellings correct   ) and came across this. even spent time looking through their profiles with SSM. Apparently the have their account audited as well. but now hesitating should I proceed since some of you all mentioned is a scam but at the same time it seems like the people that you guys encountered scam you guys instead of the company. hmmmm

Hey guys, i can share my experience with Mc Ocean . I did not join their program anyway, so no worries.
STAGE 1:
I was recommended by one of my friend to go for an interview at Wisma Standard Chartered Standard Chartered near Taman Teknologi Malaysia. Once i went there and settle down, three person come and talk to me in turns. After the interview, there are a few questions in my mind that I really don't understand.

They are looking for "Business Partners" to join their organisation, but they're not willing to share their company name/info to me. If you want me to join as your business partner, why can't you trust me and share info to me? It doesn't make sense. They will say this is part of the system, they can't tell, and they claimed that someone will tell you eventually. But luckily someone did share an info to me during the interview. They're doing something call "Network Franchising". Okay... At least i have some info to google about it.

Then i went home and google it, then i found this link The Real Truth about MLM & Network Marketing . The link taught me a lot. I would recommend you guys to watch that video.

STAGE 2:
Few days later, i got the invitation to proceed to Stage 2 via Whatsapp. Basically it says "You have been invited for the business module presentation on at Fraser Business Park".  Yet another question pop into my mind, what is the company name? Why they're still hiding the company name? I don't feel comfortable at that stage, i started to feel that something is fishy.

So, i meet up my friend for a quick drink on that day before the presentation. During the "Yum Cha" session, my friend keep pulling their senior partners to come talk to me and share their successful story. I asked what are they doing and how their company operates, and yet again they're unwilling to share to me at all. Funny huh?

Then finally, they bring me to their office. Now i know they're called Mc Ocean. They started showing me the products they have, mostly are health care products. Then they show me a bunch of photos on the wall. Long story short, they just want to show you how successful they are. Not sure is it reliable or not. After they show me everything, me and my friend sit down with another consultant and they start showing their business plan to me.

Yup, so that guy double confirm to me that my guess is true. They're doing Network Franchising or MLM related stuff. They don't call it MLM, they called it "SYSTEM".

Joining the program is RM2400 ++. Around RM 400 will be membership fee and training fee and the remaining RM2000 will be converted to points whereby you can use it to buy their products. Depends what is your upline ranking, he/she will get at least RM200 per new down line member. Then they did promote another "Fast Track" program whereby they teach you how to take back your investment and earn money faster. You would need to pay RM34,000 upfront to upgrade your own membership so that you can get your membership referral percentage higher. If i'm not mistaken, per down line registered you would get at least RM 600. They also claimed that they will teach/guide you how to get the RM34,000 funding. I did ask them what is the source of funding? And they say, borrow from friends, personal loan,etc, which i felt it is a bit weird and inappropriate .

The work there is quite simple. You can do direct selling for their product if you wish, but it wouldn't bring you good income. The income comes a lot when you successfully recruit a GOOD down line. The definition of "Good down line" means, he/she is willing to spend money and do new member recruitment. All you need to do is to find 5 damn good down line. Then once you found 5 down line, all you need to do now is to help your down line to recruit good member. Because according to their "SYSTEM", you will get promoted to another rank if your 5 down line promoted as well.

So i ended up rejecting it and go home. And i'm very happy with my decision.

STAGE 3:
I did not go for STAGE 3 as i did not pay the RM2400. =)
So now, let's puzzle the things together:
1. Why STAGE 1 - Interview?
As i said, if you want to earn money, your down-line need to do their part. They want to filter out those lazy people who does not recruit new member and those who don't like to work as a team. To maintain a healthy Network Franchising world or MLM, it requires team work. That's why you can see no one is willing to share the company name, hence "TEAM WORK" !!

2. Why not revealing their company name much earlier?
Perhaps they worry their "Well-known" name appears on your mobile. They have a lot bad stories when you google "Mc Ocean".

3. Are they doing direct selling?
You can. They also did promote something call "Indirect selling". Meaning, you can sell those products via your down-line member.

Summary
1. Is network marketing/franchising legit?
I wouldn't say it is a scam. This scheme actually works. As i said, if you have a healthy network/down-line, you will definitely earn a lot of money. Yes, you need to put effort, in finding quality "Friends" to build your network.

2. Should I join it?
My answer will be up to you. I don't like MLM. If you like to make new friends and you don't care too much on annoying your friends to join your network, then YES. If you're thinking of joining, please do double think again. You really really need to put effort into it if you wish to get back your money faster.
Thanks.

Refer the post below you can get clearer picture.

Awww thanks, this post seems very neutral. not as bad as it sounded by other angry people here. I think is the people then that ruin the repute of this company?

Youngman, Never try never know.
Think twice before you join.
Hope you will not become the next "angry people"

Again, thats your friends problem not the organization ?

Cold hearted person who would say shitty things to you, do you agree with what she said ? The shitty things your friend mentioned is true ? If yes, then she is trying to wake you up from the shit hole you're in. If no, then you can ask her to keep quiet because she is not telling the facts.

Please call to ask KPDNKK for more details. Going back to the same topic again, BNM is not the right authorities to check for business license and namings etc.

You earned alot through this business?
isit really able to achieve so much income using their marketing plan?

Do not give other example again.
I am curious and hope you share how you success through this business, if you are one of them.

Hahahahaha. I guess people gets angry at times when things doesnt goes as per what they thought it will or they tried hard but they failed yet couldnt take it. It is the similar scenario when you work your ass off for your company and then the company dont let you get promoted and revoked your bonus. hahahaha

Is the organisation that made her that way, obviously they teach you how to talk and lie. I know you people are super good in talking and giving out "facts", because you guys were trained well. Wow suprisingly you sounded just like her, trying to wake me up from my shit hole? Hahah. Honestly im not living in a shithole, it is because i rejected her business plan. Call out for yumcha but have no intention of having normal friend chit chat, instead of telling how good her business is and those friends who seem fine with their average life. Do you really have to bash everyone and label them as average? Lets give these people another few months or few years and see who is the average joe. It will be too late when you realise you are loosing money instead of making em.
How long have you been in the company Mr Mika?