Can explain this as well? bigger capital bigger reward. But no training on how to sell the products, just learn how to collect FORMHD and use soft points for unsuspecting prospects.

you dont question.. later kena lipot..

You are right!

If Mc Ocean really is all about the products now, then why talk about "starting as SP adalah paling menguntungkan" Obviously, they are promoting 'rank-buying'

Also, collecting the FORMHD secretly and sharing with other partners is already a felony and highly offensive. You are sharing private information about your own friends to strangers!

Worst still, using this FORHMDs, KPs will ask us to dig into the prospects dreams and aspirations to "CLOSE" them. Thinking back, it really is such a disgusting act.

[SIZE=7]So so ashamed to ever have been part of this stupid company.

How they track IP?

They have a KP that used to work in MCMC before. They're using his contacts to "hunt" partners who talk offensively about their beloved company and prince.

That KP is really really dumb i tell you

He had such a great job at MCMC and destined for great things! His parents are not well-to-do. The last I heard, they're hardworking and honest Pasar Malam vendors hoping to have a better life through their children.

Good job bro, you just threw that all away

now only i know what does FORMHD stands for no wonder 2 out of the 3 interviewer are same occupation as me

Don't worry about kena report. He/she has a point.

During mcocean team party, 3 stages process, every prospect are told that mcocean is legal business because it runs base on selling products, and mcocean will give you relevant trainings and help you to "filter" potential business partner.

and YES, they manipulate you by training you on how to tackle your friends' soft points in "sincere" way, collect form HD regarding the prospects background in "sincere" way, which actually most of them FAKE it, and then teach you the to-do-list which is to make sure your prospects cannot run away after he/she attends to the TP, then make sure he/she attends all the way up to HOW event.

Ultimately, the truth is: mcocean member's scripts and conversation with prospects (which they are trained), is always about the (fake) dream of success, NEVER about trying to define the demand of its products and to sell the products. Period.

Nothing to say, KP Meconfuse, KP Neutralite, McOfficial & not forgetting Prince Premier Ultraman Mebius???

We are still waiting...

Where are the thousands of KPs you guys claimed to have developed over the past decade?

Just because it is your rice bowl, that gives you the right to say your actions are justified?

Every evidence here are pointing towards Mc Ocean focus on recruitment & how to CONvince people to buy their STAR PREMIER Position.

You think you guys are the only ones who had done ABP or attended HOW before? Do we look like some competitors of Mc Ocean that tried to sabotage you with groundless accusations/ defaming you?

Most of us here were all ex PPs, KPs, CKPs & Members who lost a part of our lives because we were being lied to by Mc Ocean!

FYI to all Malaysian, Mc Ocean is STILL UNDER INVESTIGATION by KPDNHEP.

And IT WAS A RAID, NOT A ROUTINE AUDIT/ ORCHESTRATED BY COMPETITOR. Throughout my years in Mc Ocean, I had NEVER seen this kind of raid by KPDNHEP upon Mc Ocean before.

You can verify this information by yourself by contacting KPDNHEP Putrajaya, that is the truth.

Figure it out yourselves if Mc Ocean is the right company to entrust your life savings/ capital into.

This post has been edited by Geek Goblin 123: May 29 2019, 09:02 PM

Actually the rm35k buying what products?

stupidly overpriced like hell products.
lepas tu claim product good, bagus, company dah lama, produk dah lama establish...BULLSHIT.

if good then why the heck not a single pharmacy jual?
why it was not sold in tesco ka, aeon ka, cold storage ka
not sold anywhere at all!!!!

those item so not worth it,even they them self dont want to mention it when asking u to pay rm35k (they focus more on the pangkat and profit sharing stuff to wash your brain)

Anyone has clearer versions of their certificate? Tried to view it from https://www.mcocean.com/en/products.jsp but it seems all blurred and can't even zoom in (downloaded).

My old fren brought me to Mc Ocean office at Woodlands, SG back at 2 years + ago.

Introduced me to multiple person who claimed themselves are successful, asked me how much i earn, what i want to achieve in my life bla bla bla, then ask me to join them and pay upfront SGD 900 for membership fee, rejected them and even tried to walk out but they stopping me for few attempt, my old fren noticed but she reluctant to help and ask me to stay instead

At the end, i forced the way out to the office, no further contact with her anymore.

dont let you walk away will it consider forcefully confining or confinement of a person against their will?

The MC Ocean office door is abit tricky, it can only be open via an access card, meaning to say if there is no one coincidentally open the door during that time, i still being confine in the office because they don't intent to let me go.

Why so quiet, Mc Ocean Defenders, tak cukup FAQ Training ke?

We are still waiting on your explanation on:

1. What rights you have to threaten ex members with defamatory by leaking their Private Information?

2. How is Mobile Stockist (GP straight jump to SP by buying RM 33,000 PV of product) not Rank Buying?

3. What is your definition of Defamatory?

4. How can you justify that Mc Ocean is NOT Recruitment focus, when majority of your training involves "finding out the soft points of prospects & convincing prospects to sign- up as Mobile Stockist".

Example: WARM- UP, FAQ, TEE UP, NAME LISTING, TRAIN A, TRAIN B

This post has been edited by Geek Goblin 123: May 31 2019, 11:30 AM

you should make a police report.. as it is a crime..

mcocean indirect sell --------------------------------------------- LIE
mcocean passive income ----------------------------------------- LIE
mcocean Y33 calculation ----------------------------------------- LIE
mcocean time freedom ------------------------------------------- LIE
mcocean team support ------------------------------------------- LIE
mcocean entrepreneurship --------------------------------------- LIE
mcocean looking for quality partners ---------------------------- LIE
mcocean KP rm20k monthly income ----------------------------- LIE
mcocean nutrition diploma --------------------------------------- LIE
mcocean product comes with quality and good market price --- LIE
mcocean product & empowerment trainings -------------------- LIE
mcocean see you at the top -------------------------------------- LIE
mcocean positive energy ----------------------------------------- FAKE
mcocean millionaire mindset ------------------------------------- FAKE
mcocean sincerity ------------------------------------------------- FAKE !!!


mcocean recruitment pyramid scam ------------------------------------------ True
mcocean stockist fraud --------------------------------------------------------- True
mcocean lead u to take RM35000 personal loan with bribe ------------------ True
free laboring for mcocean ------------------------------------------------------ True
mcocean train you to trick more people --------------------------------------- True
mcocean makes u drown in debt ----------------------------------------------- True
mcocean fake dream of success ------------------------------------------------ True !!!