I am somewhat happy for you guys seeing how happy and excited you guys can get from bash-talking in this thread and making comedic predictions of where mcocean is heading (Even I laugh at some of the offensive remarks). But nah, in the end the business core is still sales of products so its not gonna sink or crash or burn into ash like what the ex-kp only ever dream of.

Basically here's how it usually goes in this thread:
1) Mcocean makes a donation - OHHH obviously they did it to get on the government good side
2) Mcocean doesnt make a donation - OMGG If mcocean is doing well like they claimed, why we dont see them making donations to charity ?

1) Mcocean partner treats you a meal - OHHH they just wanna get on your good side.
2) Mcocean partner doesnt treat you a meal - OMGG they claim they make so much money buy cant even afford to buy dinner.

1) KP owns luxury - OHHH thank you guys feed his/her rice bowl they become rich and enjoy life la
(Irony is, whatever sales you close they only make like 400-600 whereas you make 4000-6000, who is benefiting more from it ? Lol this part you wont hear from the geeks gang here)
2) KP doesnt own luxury - OMGG claims to earn 20k and above but where is the BMW ? where is the rolex ?
(Next time try asking, how many places has this KP taken his/her family on vacation to, how many additional side businesses does this KP own)

Ultimately, there just exists some people which will always seek for more problems from a solution. Its like saying WEW this girl is so pretty, I guess she must be very arrogant.
But then again, partially its thanks to you guys here that mcocean is just going to become even stronger than before. Yes we are pretty active in this thread cause we do care and are constantly seeking room for improvement. Every one of your feedback is actually being constructively taken into consideration all so that we could improvise on a greater experience in our business community.

I am somewhat happy for you guys seeing how happy and excited you guys can get from bash-talking in this thread and making comedic predictions of where mcocean is heading (Even I laugh at some of the offensive remarks). But nah, in the end the business core is still sales of products so its not gonna sink or crash or burn into ash like what the ex-kp only ever dream of.

Basically here's how it usually goes in this thread:
1) Mcocean makes a donation - OHHH obviously they did it to get on the government good side
2) Mcocean doesnt make a donation - OMGG If mcocean is doing well like they claimed, why we dont see them making donations to charity ?

1) Mcocean partner treats you a meal - OHHH they just wanna get on your good side.
2) Mcocean partner doesnt treat you a meal - OMGG they claim they make so much money buy cant even afford to buy dinner.

1) KP owns luxury - OHHH thank you guys feed his/her rice bowl they become rich and enjoy life la
(Irony is, whatever sales you close they only make like 400-600 whereas you make 4000-6000, who is benefiting more from it ? Lol this part you wont hear from the geeks gang here)
2) KP doesnt own luxury - OMGG claims to earn 20k and above but where is the BMW ? where is the rolex ?
(Next time try asking, how many places has this KP taken his/her family on vacation to, how many additional side businesses does this KP own)

Ultimately, there just exists some people which will always seek for more problems from a solution. Its like saying WEW this girl is so pretty, I guess she must be very arrogant.
But then again, partially its thanks to you guys here that mcocean is just going to become even stronger than before. Yes we are pretty active in this thread cause we do care and are constantly seeking room for improvement. Every one of your feedback is actually being constructively taken into consideration all so that we could improvise on a greater experience in our business community.

I only Mahu Clarify saja.
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So are you REPRESENTING MCocean?  

But I am still confuse oh...

I saw this in ABP (2nd Stage during Office Visit), but my Introducer say got a "BIGGER PLAN" on Sunday, only happens "Twice a Month", called HOW oh.

Claim the Marketing Plan is the "Short-cut to be Millionaire" wo.

Can share ah here the Marketing Plan?

If not the same as this plan, why they organised HOW hor? 

Come come, we care & we share right?

how come before this.. the presentation slide is different from you? mc ocean dont come with standardize slide?     

Anyone care to explain how this training only consist of look for people soft points and how to get them interested?  Not a single method that talks about the product or how to retail the products.

This just show that they are looking/scouting for individuals rather than trying to sell the product.

My old fren brought me to Mc Ocean office at Woodlands, SG back at 2 years + ago.

Introduced me to multiple person who claimed themselves are successful, asked me how much i earn, what i want to achieve in my life bla bla bla, then ask me to join them and pay upfront SGD 900 for membership fee, rejected them and even tried to walk out but they stopping me for few attempt, my old fren noticed but she reluctant to help and ask me to stay instead

At the end, i forced the way out to the office, no further contact with her anymore.

The MC Ocean office door is abit tricky, it can only be open via an access card, meaning to say if there is no one coincidentally open the door during that time, i still being confine in the office because they don't intent to let me go.

Our product is good for health

I wonder if the things you say is correct or not, simple question, if mc ocean really did something wrong or against the law, then shouldn't KPDN close down the branch or office immediately? I went to one of the branch and observe quietly but everything seems fine, still operate like normal? I checked their FB and website, seems like mc ocean did the charity things since long time ago, not so called active after kena raided by kpdn leh

why the heck your stupid kp record your conversation between him and send to management? did the retarded fellow had your consent?

I don't think there will be any "saman" from mcocean, can't advice u what gonna happen, but you are just exercising your right. If the management or someone else call u and u feels threaten, rmb make police report, and maybe avoid going mcocean office alone.

Itulah pasal. Few of my posts got deleted since I joined in. 😒

@Meconfuse Blind loyalty will eventually get you lost. No wonder you are confused. No one is disagreeing with you about PV,BV in other companies. You are missing the point and always dodging the question with no direct answer.

NOW WHAT OTHER MLM COMPANIES DONT HAVE IS A DISTRIBUTION ARM!

Care to explain how your Uplines all belong to SD Group/Midea, none of which is registered under SSM. SD group is dormant, and there is no ROC for MIDEA in SSM. Can you clarify this?

Another thing you can go ahead and continue Mcocean, as the already protected themselves in their digitally forced GPS online. If you don't agree cannot proceed. Very sneaky, where members are forced to agree in order to proceed to view their network analysis or their monthly statement.



So in other words on line 2, Mcocean will push the blame to their distribution team (MIDEA) saying that the distribution arm is the one that acted on its own and caused the problem, Mcocean has nothing to do with it.

FUNNY HOW THE OWNER OF MCOCEAN AND THE DISTRIBUTION ARM ARE ONE IN THE SAME. WONDER WHO THEY ARE COPYING AND PASTING?

Guys, please ignore all the defenders' provocation. Focus on creating awareness, dont fall into their trap and start the war of words. We must share all the bad experiences and let justice serves them.

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Like that also want to report ah?
Kuat buntut sakit 

for those wonder how mc ocean has chowda details , our admin already answer your question

DONT play play later LOD fly here fly there 

https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/4803470?author=se7en

Let me break down again what you just said:

Yesterday I already said this business is like opening a shop, some could do while some just can't, but mco provide buy back balance unsold product for those who don't want to continue, which means at least sell back the products to company and get back the capitals is better than all of your capital is gone, right?

Mc Ocean's practice:

1. Members have to install the RM 5000 Eioniser and take a Sefie Proof BEFORE can attend 3D Training.
2. Uplines will ask Members have to open the product packages to "check" the product quality.
3. Members have to consume their own products during Training & Events and take selfies in Group Chat.
4. CKP and KPs are forced to donate their products to Big Events.

Do not lie about this no longer in practice now, I still receive reports of withdrawal people complaining to me not able to get refund for Eionisers & all their opened products.

"People quit MLM easier than other ventures. Because the start-up investment in MLM is much smaller than in traditional small business, it's also easier to quit. It's easier to walk away from a $100 than $5,000 or $25,000. "

"MLM is less expensive than other business opportunities. While Taylor indicates large sums of money are required for MLM, compared to many other businesses, the investment is small. "

Are you referring to WALK AWAY WITH RM 35,000 IN DEBTS EASILY?

How many Malaysians today can afford to put aside another RM 1,000 EVERY MONTH from their paycheck right now? This still NOT inclusive of:

1. HOW & Event Tickets.
2. Petrol & Toll for travelling more.
3. Yumcha cost when you go "Warm-up" your friends/ family/ stranger.
4. Let us not forget the "1800 BV per month" maintenance that you claim to inform your downlines clearly, which is roughly another RM 1,800 PER MONTH

Recruit 1 prospect to become SP = RM 6,000
But your cost can be = RM 1000 + RM150 (x2) + RM 500 (Lets put it at a minimum budget) + RM 1800 = RM 3600

Your 1 SP recruited cannot even sustain your expenses for 2 months! And ask yourself how "easy" to get a RM 35,000 Bank Loan Approved?

Where is your conscience when you blurt this out?

"Many reps struggle because they don't treat their MLM like the business it is. For some reason, many MLM businesses are viewed and treated differently than a traditional business, which is a problem. It doesn't matter what business you start, if you don't market, sell, and do the activities that make money on a consistent basis, your business will fail.

So you admit that NOT EVERYONE CAN DO THIS BUSINESS right? Remind me again what you guys preached during HOW again?

"Everyone can do this business, JUST Copy & Paste?"

Does your "copy and paste" include giving your social skills, your circle of friends to your prospect, luck & also the season of time?

For the Buy Back Policy issue in the same post, I think I will answer in the same sequence:

1. I asked the same question to the company (Because I have not face this situation before), the company said they have already feedback to PP who practices this unfair method, if the same thing still happen then feedback to the company to take action.

Please show us evidence when PP B, PP A, PP S (Both) membership had been terminated OK? If not, I will consider you are just BS-ing.

2. Yes, some cunning partners/ex partners did that, like the insurance agents story, no need to repeat again, if got/know this kind of upline/sideline/downline, please feedback to the company to investigate and screw him/her

Yea again read No. 1. The top should be the example since this is a copy & paste business, no point terminating those at the bottom of the pyramid.

3. When a member do direct selling, that is the BASIC thing what, please, at least should know the products. If DON'T try it yourself, how to share n sell to customers? Imagine, if customers ask, What taste is it and you don't know, then how to answer?

1 box each is enough right, so why need to OPEN ALL PRODUCT PACKAGES & INSTALL the Eioniser (Use Office one cannot ah)? 

BTW, Mc Ocean do DIRECT SELLING punya ke? Tot you all like to use big fancy lingo like "INDIRECT SELLING" & "NETWORK FRANCHISING"?

4. Members are Independent Distributor of direct selling company, they are doing their own business. Business got own expenses. Some activities are done by members themselves. If it is their OWN activities, shouldn't they themselves contribute to their own activities, by providing products for their lucky draw? Even if is their own activities, company ALWAYS Sponsor something to them. Hampers for example, what else do these people expect more?These ex-members try to paint Wrong picture,  as if company "forcing" them.

Oh, not compulsory you say? Try and see how you gonna meet your KPI? 

Don't BS la, I was a KP once too, and I recalled I can only choose what product to contribute, BUT I MUST CONTRIBUTE. Ask any CKP & KP here, they will agree with this.

And again, that PP is still high and mighty sitting at the top. Nothing done so far? 

Oh and if you so like to click my link, why not quote the LAST PART as well...

"In essence, their top earners aren't only the ones that joined 30 years ago. Finally, yes, of course, the people positioned on top make the most, but that's not because they came in early. It's because they built a business that put them on top.

So is it possible to make any money doing an MLM? After finishing all of his analysis and research on various MLM data, Jon Taylor concluded, “In every case, using the analytical framework described, the loss rate for all these MLMs ranged from 99.05% to 99.99%, with an average of 99.71% of participants losing money in an MLM. On average, one in 545 is likely to have profited after subtracting expenses and 997 out of 1,000 individuals involved with an MLM lose money (not including time invested)."

That sounds dismal unless you're the 1 in 545 or the top 1 percent working your business. Further, it blames MLM without considering any of the individuals who joined. "

Link: https://www.thebalancesmb.com/the-likelihoo...success-1794500

Look at the member name section. Does this guy took 2 bonus statements from 2 different KP? One name is longer than the other one.

Another proof that this guy is nothing but a cheat & liar.